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Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 26 @ 11:58 AM ET
They could be a contender next year.
- NickTheKid87


Id say in two when bob ryab is a ufa lol
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 26 @ 11:59 AM ET
Damnit. I miss work.
- Jsaquella


My work is making me feel like this:

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 11:59 AM ET
Of course, the counter to that argument is that he was playing in a system that made goalies look better than they actually were.
- Atomic Wedgie


He was very good his first year in Phoenix, when Dave Tippett was coaching in Dallas. He also had some level of success in Anaheim, prior to that.

Of course, the reverse is true as well. The other goalies people are naming are coming from similar systems.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 26 @ 11:59 AM ET
Yeah, Bryz let in a bad goal... name one goalie that doesn't happen to. I still see him making key saves to keep us in games. Personally I think we need to use our backup a little more and get him some rest.

Toronto's defense kept us to the outside through much of the game, their pk stopped our powerplay and Scrivens had the answers when they diddn't. In a word, we got beat. We had a couple of bounces go the other way, we could have won.

This is a hardworking and talented team... the problem is, so is the other team.

- flyler


People see the bad goals but they don't see the breakdown that lead to them or the other goals were the team fails to clear the front of the net or they leave a guy unchecked. They certainly don't see the timely, game-saving stops.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 12:00 PM ET
I would look to trade a laughton/read +.... Not this years first.
- Philly1980


The two issues are, the Kings supposedly wanted a 1st rounder last year for him, and this year they have said that they're not interested in trading him, with the condensed schedule.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 26 @ 12:00 PM ET
What needed piece can be had for just cap space?

Corey Perry would be great, but is he really a need? Not IMO.

- Jsaquella

We know my feelings. We need a 1 line rw and 1 top puck moving dman. Ten in 2 to 3 years we explode.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 26 @ 12:00 PM ET
He still looks solid in a system that doesn't.
- JoeRussomanno

There's nothing wrong with him from what I've seen.

Weird question, but do goalies normally have trouble picking up high pucks at the (whatever your barn is called now) Arena?

It seemed to me last night that both goalies had trouble finding high pucks. My mens' team used to play at the Ricoh Centre, and due to poor lighting and dark seats, you couldn't find anything above about nipple height.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 26 @ 12:01 PM ET
Flyers, they can't transition from D to Offence well, They have little to no confidence in any goaltender other than Bryz, like c'mon clearly the guy is exhasted and needs a game off, he has started all but 2 games this year. As for the 2nd PP unit well thats self explanitory, who else is going to quarterback the PP behind Kimo on Defence? Oh yea there is no one else... I'm actually suprised Coburn didn't take a stupid penalty last night.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 26 @ 12:01 PM ET
The two issues are, the Kings supposedly wanted a 1st rounder last year for him, and this year they have said that they're not interested in trading him, with the condensed schedule.
- Jsaquella


Wait...is this still the goalie trade talk?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 12:02 PM ET
We know my feelings. We need a 1 line rw and 1 top puck moving dman. Ten in 2 to 3 years we explode.
- SMS4016


I disagree on the top line RW. I do feel they need a good puck mover. The defenseman is a much bigger need.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 26 @ 12:02 PM ET
The two issues are, the Kings supposedly wanted a 1st rounder last year for him, and this year they have said that they're not interested in trading him, with the condensed schedule.
- Jsaquella


At the end of the season....i wouldnt switch in mid season. if the flyers can somehow get an extra first(this year) you wouldnt consider?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 26 @ 12:03 PM ET
The two issues are, the Kings supposedly wanted a 1st rounder last year for him, and this year they have said that they're not interested in trading him, with the condensed schedule.
- Jsaquella

I'd really hate to make a big splash for him and he becomes Brian Boucher. Rather the flyers use Bryz's contract to tgeir advantage and develop their own talent during that time.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 26 @ 12:03 PM ET
Know what I'd like to see? How Bryzgalov looks with a solid team game played in front of him.
- MJL

We played solid team game in front of leights and boosh. Anytime you play solid game in front of NHL goalie your chances of success are sky high. So wHy look at bryz. Can get same result with alot cheaper.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 26 @ 12:03 PM ET
He was very good his first year in Phoenix, when Dave Tippett was coaching in Dallas. He also had some level of success in Anaheim, prior to that.

Of course, the reverse is true as well. The other goalies people are naming are coming from similar systems.

- Jsaquella

Brian Boucher. 332 minutes of shutout hockey.

How can you possibly explain that?

And don't blame Bettman.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 12:03 PM ET
There's nothing wrong with him from what I've seen.

Weird question, but do goalies normally have trouble picking up high pucks at the (whatever your barn is called now) Arena?

It seemed to me last night that both goalies had trouble finding high pucks. My mens' team used to play at the Ricoh Centre, and due to poor lighting and dark seats, you couldn't find anything above about nipple height.

- Atomic Wedgie


That's interesting. The WFC has a white ceiling, and is better lit than MSG used to be.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 12:04 PM ET
Brian Boucher. 332 minutes of shutout hockey.

How can you possibly explain that?

And don't blame Bettman.

- Atomic Wedgie


He got insanely hot. Bryzgalov had the Flyers shutout streak record last year. Set it in March.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 26 @ 12:04 PM ET
We know my feelings. We need a 1 line rw and 1 top puck moving dman. Ten in 2 to 3 years we explode.
- SMS4016


Everyone says the Flyers have enough centers, but if I am Holmer I don't rule out bringing in a solid 4th line center/PK specialist, preferably one with size, that is solid on D and is dominant on faceoffs.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 12:05 PM ET
We played solid team game in front of leights and boosh. Anytime you play solid game in front of NHL goalie your chances of success are sky high. So wHy look at bryz. Can get same result with alot cheaper.
- SMS4016


The reverse is, if they played a solid team game in front of Bryz, they have a far greater chance for success.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 12:06 PM ET
Everyone says we have enough centers, but if I am Holmer I don't rule out bringing in a solid 4th line center/PK specialist, preferably one with size, that is solid on D and is dominant on faceoffs.
- Lexington Flyer


They have enough top 9 centers. Could definitely use a good 4th line one with faceoff ability.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 26 @ 12:06 PM ET
We know my feelings. We need a 1 line rw and 1 top puck moving dman. Ten in 2 to 3 years we explode.
- SMS4016


What's wrong with Voracek?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 26 @ 12:06 PM ET
That's interesting. The WFC has a white ceiling, and is better lit than MSG used to be.
- Jsaquella

Ceiling would be too high to matter. Maybe just too many guys sitting behind the net were wearing black Flyers jerseys?

Am I smoking crack on this? Anyone else notice this last night? Other nights in Philly?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 12:06 PM ET
At the end of the season....i wouldnt switch in mid season. if the flyers can somehow get an extra first(this year) you wouldnt consider?
- Philly1980


Sure, if they can. Not sure I see how they can get an extra first, outside of fantasy land.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 12:07 PM ET
Ceiling would be too high to matter. Maybe just too many guys sitting behind the net were wearing black Flyers jerseys?

Am I smoking crack on this? Anyone else notice this last night? Other nights in Philly?

- Atomic Wedgie


Scrivens definitely had one he lost. Bryz had one he bobbled, but on the replay he seems to be watching itn the whole time.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 26 @ 12:08 PM ET
What's wrong with Voracek?
- NickTheKid87


He now bears the "NHL star of the week curse". Get rid of him while the gettin' is good.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 26 @ 12:08 PM ET
There's nothing wrong with him from what I've seen.

Weird question, but do goalies normally have trouble picking up high pucks at the (whatever your barn is called now) Arena?

It seemed to me last night that both goalies had trouble finding high pucks. My mens' team used to play at the Ricoh Centre, and due to poor lighting and dark seats, you couldn't find anything above about nipple height.

- Atomic Wedgie

hmm I haven't particularly noticed. I think if it was an actual issue more hype would have been made. prolly just a bad night in that regard for both tenders.
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