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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:12 PM ET
In due time. I want to see a few more answers.
- MJL

Sure. Ignore the real winner.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:12 PM ET
anyone realize Brayden Coburn has the most turnovers on this team? 10 more than L. Schenn too. He needs to start getting it going this year, i;ve been underwhelmed with him.
- JoeRussomanno


At least he's staying out of the box, and providing some much needed offense.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:12 PM ET
If you average everything out, he is, because his offense makes up for what he lacks defensively (but he's still very good in both ends of the ice).
- NickTheKid87



I would disagree that Crosby is very good in both ends of the ice. He's an offensive player. And when looking in terms of overall player. Offense can't make up for a player lacking defensively.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:12 PM ET
Who do you think is the best all around forward in the NHL?
- MJL

I like Datsyuk
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 26 @ 3:12 PM ET
ohh yeah and a baby also..... lol....not really anything to worry about...just got into a fight with my wife...

she doesnt want my mom staying with us for a week because she didnt get a flu shot even though she already had the flu....shes worried about the baby. But i told her actually having the flu and getting over it is a lot better than a flu shot...

Personally i find it disrespectful to have to tell my mom whom i havent seen in two years not to stay with us...

- Philly1980

It's tough on women when they are new mothers. Be patient and supportive it will pay dividends later.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 26 @ 3:13 PM ET
He's an offensive Superstar and a genrational talent. But not the best all around forward in the NHL.
- MJL

i can understand the approach of picking someone like toews, and datsyuk although he is getting up there still deserves some consideration. but for me it is easier to find guys that can shut down the opponent than guys what are capable of 110 plus points a year on a consistent basis. and it is not as if crosby is a defensive slouch either, even if he isnt up there defensively with guys like dats.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:13 PM ET
anyone realize Brayden Coburn has the most turnovers on this team? 10 more than L. Schenn too. He needs to start getting it going this year, i;ve been underwhelmed with him.
- JoeRussomanno

I just realized he's the only hold over from the last time the Flyers missed the playoffs.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:13 PM ET
In due time. I want to see a few more answers.
- MJL

dats
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
At least he's staying out of the box, and providing some much needed offense.
- PLindbergh31

the sarcasm is suffocating me
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
at the risk of sounding biased, i have to say crosby. malkin is far and away the most purely talented, but he oftentimes lacks either the discipline or hockey sense to truly dominate as he should. im open to hear arguments to the contrary that are logically based, but for me a healthy crosby is the best
- stayinthefnnet



To clarify, I'm not asking who the best forward is in the NHL. I'm asking who the best all around forward is.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
It's tough on women when they are new mothers. Be patient and supportive it will pay dividends later.
- JoeRussomanno

It was easier for me when we had our son. My wife doesn't like kids so I just did whatever I wanted.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
i can understand the approach of picking someone like toews, and datsyuk although he is getting up there still deserves some consideration. but for me it is easier to find guys that can shut down the opponent than guys what are capable of 110 plus points a year on a consistent basis. and it is not as if crosby is a defensive slouch either, even if he isnt up there defensively with guys like dats.
- stayinthefnnet

Crosby is very good on face offs as well as offense, plays PK, he could easily be #1 all around

I just love Datsyuk even if he is slightly past his prime
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
anyone realize Brayden Coburn has the most turnovers on this team? 10 more than L. Schenn too. He needs to start getting it going this year, i;ve been underwhelmed with him.
- JoeRussomanno


Bill talked about that a few days ago. That stat is misleading. Coburn leads the team in ATOI and has been given a great offensive role, which leads to more turnovers. Coburn hasn't been all that great though, but I think his TO number is too damning.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 26 @ 3:15 PM ET
I just realized he's the only hold over from the last time the Flyers missed the playoffs.
- mayorofangrytown

i didn't see the need for a ntc/nmc with him but whatever, water under the bridge. I know he's capable of playing better tho, just wish he would.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 26 @ 3:15 PM ET
I miss the spectrum
- vejim


I'm surprised the motaba virus didn't emanate from the bathrooms of that place and require Donald Sutherland and team to nuke the place in the early 90's.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:15 PM ET
i can understand the approach of picking someone like toews, and datsyuk although he is getting up there still deserves some consideration. but for me it is easier to find guys that can shut down the opponent than guys what are capable of 110 plus points a year on a consistent basis. and it is not as if crosby is a defensive slouch either, even if he isnt up there defensively with guys like dats.
- stayinthefnnet



It's not very easy to find a player who can be dominating in all 3 zones on the ice, and in all situations. The player who I think is the best all around Forward in the game, can do so.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
Nikolai Zherdev?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
It was easier for me when we had our son. My wife doesn't like kids so I just did whatever I wanted.

- mayorofangrytown

okay
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
To clarify, I'm not asking who the best forward is in the NHL. I'm asking who the best all around forward is.
- MJL

Lebron James.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
dats
- Crimsoninja

precisely
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
I would disagree that Crosby is very good in both ends of the ice. He's an offensive player. And when looking in terms of overall player. Offense can't make up for a player lacking defensively.
- MJL


Well I mean if his defensive play causes 1 goal to be scored and he creates 3 goals then, yes, it can.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
It's tough on women when they are new mothers. Be patient and supportive it will pay dividends later.
- JoeRussomanno


Cant tell my mom not to stay at our house because of that espescially when her relatives (most of whom never had the flu shot) are over every other day.... I had issues with her when my sister came to visit also before the baby...To me its disrespectful because her parents live two blocks away and her dads cock is in my ass all day and everyday and i keep my mouth shut...Have to draw the line somewhere.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
the sarcasm is suffocating me
- JoeRussomanno


A Cha Cha Cha.....

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
precisely
- Marc D

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
Lebron James.
- mayorofangrytown


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