I'm surprised the motaba virus didn't emanate from the bathrooms of that place and require Donald Sutherland and team to nuke the place in the early 90's.
- johndewar

I know...people would pee in the sinks

Nikolai Zherdev?

- BulliesPhan87

I miss that guy

I think I was his only fan on here

Bill talked about that a few days ago. That stat is misleading. Coburn leads the team in ATOI and has been given a great offensive role, which leads to more turnovers. Coburn hasn't been all that great though, but I think his TO number is too damning.
- NickTheKid87

timmonen and schenn are averaging only a couple minutes a game less and have a serious differential of turnovers from coburn tho.

I miss that guy

I think I was his only fan on here
- Marc D

I couldn't stand him. Popular opinion, I know.

Lebron James.
- mayorofangrytown

he is the King of Miami....they all adore him and their Heat here

I'm surprised the motaba virus didn't emanate from the bathrooms of that place and require Donald Sutherland and team to nuke the place in the early 90's.
- johndewar

I think that stuff actually happened when Pink Floyd did the Animals show there

timmonen and schenn are averaging only a couple minutes a game less and have a serious differential of turnovers from coburn tho.
- JoeRussomanno

Timonen is an offensive minded dman which leads to less turnovers because that's his job and Schenn doesn't handle the puck as much. Cobrun is in a role he's not completely suited for.

Cant tell my mom not to stay at our house because of that espescially when her relatives (most of whom never had the flu shot) are over every other day.... I had issues with her when my sister came to visit also before the baby...To me its disrespectful because her parents live two blocks away and her dads cock is in my ass all day and everyday and i keep my mouth shut...Have to draw the line somewhere.
- Philly1980

TMI man... TMI

Cant tell my mom not to stay at our house because of that espescially when her relatives (most of whom never had the flu shot) are over every other day.... I had issues with her when my sister came to visit also before the baby...To me its disrespectful because her parents live two blocks away and her dads cock is in my ass all day and everyday and i keep my mouth shut...Have to draw the line somewhere.
- Philly1980

Yes you do man. Yes you most certainly do.

To clarify, I'm not asking who the best forward is in the NHL. I'm asking who the best all around forward is.
- MJL

no no i understand. i would never say crosby is say top 5 defensively or anything near that. but, he is at the very least still slightly above average. maybe it is my understanding of the question though, as i think that if you take everything into account, that is similar to the best all around player. the amount he is better offensively than say a defensive stalwart such as kesler is large enough to make him the better overall player in my mind

he is the King of Miami....they all adore him and their Heat here
- vejim

Are the Heat more popular than the Panthers?

timmonen and schenn are averaging only a couple minutes a game less and have a serious differential of turnovers from coburn tho.
- JoeRussomanno

you sir are making too much sense....

Crosby is very good on face offs as well as offense, plays PK, he could easily be #1 all around

I just love Datsyuk even if he is slightly past his prime
- Marc D

I love Datsyuk but he's not physical at all and his offensive numbers have declined due to his age (although he's producing well so far this year).

I couldn't stand him. Popular opinion, I know.
- BulliesPhan87

so much wasted talent, I still loved him, no rationale reason for it

Well I mean if his defensive play causes 1 goal to be scored and he creates 3 goals then, yes, it can.
- NickTheKid87

In terms of all around play. Scoring goals can't make a player good defensively.

Timonen is an offensive minded dman which leads to less turnovers because that's his job and Schenn doesn't handle the puck as much. Cobrun is in a role he's not completely suited for.
- NickTheKid87

I thought Timmonen is more of the balanced type which Coburn is supposed to be but a little more defensive. Either way I expected more from Coburn.

I love Datsyuk but he's not physical at all and his offensive numbers have declined due to his age (although he's producing well so far this year).
- NickTheKid87

And he's not the defensive player he was back in his prime either.

I thought Timmonen is more of the balanced type which Coburn is supposed to be but a little more defensive. Either way I expected more from Coburn.
- JoeRussomanno

I wonder if his nose is effecting his depth perception.

TMI man... TMI
- JoeRussomanno

Back to hockey...back to hockey

In terms of all around play. Scoring goals can't make a player good defensively.
- MJL

Ok I thought that's what you were asking. I would say Datsyuk from this criteria but I think Crosby is the best player in the world.

I love Datsyuk but he's not physical at all and his offensive numbers have declined due to his age (although he's producing well so far this year).
- NickTheKid87

Toews is a good choice too

Are the Heat more popular than the Panthers?
- PLindbergh31

not even close...I see Heat banners on the cars everywhere, nobody cares about the Dolphins, Marlins or Panthers....I bet most people in Miami dont know who the Panthers are?

so much wasted talent, I still loved him, no rationale reason for it
- Marc D

Must've been all those playoffs shootouts.

Toews is a good choice too
- Marc D

Toews as well by MJL's criteria.

I thought Timmonen is more of the balanced type which Coburn is supposed to be but a little more defensive. Either way I expected more from Coburn.
- JoeRussomanno

He is going to have more turnovers because he'll actually attempt to carry the puck. That's a bit of a factor.