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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 4:36 PM ET


Hell, I pretty much hate everything and I don't have an issue with this.

- PLindbergh31

Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:36 PM ET
and you guys thought ritchie looked bad coming into camp....this is on another level lol
- Philly1980


Dustin Byfuglien, the NHL's best All Round forward (when he isn't playing D)
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Feb 26 @ 4:36 PM ET
Conditional fourth rounder. Speaking of, are the conditions known?
- BulliesPhan87


3rd round if they make the playoffs.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:36 PM ET
Flyers might have just re-acquired Simon Gagne

Yup, for a 4th rounder

- Jsaquella


Of course they did. What other picks should we piss away?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:36 PM ET
For those of you who remember him, Lukin probably just threw up in his mouth a little... he hated Gagne.
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Feb 26 @ 4:36 PM ET
Probably so but even still, I would rather have a third line of Read-Couturier-Gagne then a 4th of Rinaldo-Talbot-Knuble/McGinn than what they have out there now.

I know Fedotenko is a good PK guy but I just don't like him.

- nastyflyergirl

I still think this club will make the playoffs, 2010 and last year showed that all you have to do is get in and anything can happen.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
Probably so but even still, I would rather have a third line of Read-Couturier-Gagne then a 4th of Rinaldo-Talbot-Knuble/McGinn than what they have out there now.

I know Fedotenko is a good PK guy but I just don't like him.

- nastyflyergirl


At least he hasn't changed his stripes, he's still a Flyers killer.

The next faceoff he wins will be his first.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
Will see. I just rather have a young kid playing those minutes. Wellwood, Harry Z, etc.

I don't see how Gagne fits into their future.

- stveshdy


Neither Harry Z or Wellwood are good enough. They just aren't.

Best case for either player would be to go back to Adirondack and have Jon Sim's hands melded to either one of Harry Z's or Wellwood's skating ability and MAYBE you'd have a decent player.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
The problem is, they don't have a young guy good enough to take those minutes.

Organizational depth is a legitimate problem with this franchise.

Oh, and I think I read that this 4th round pick isn't even the Flyers' pick....it's a pick they got in another deal. Is that true? Because if that's true, then I REALLY can't see getting upset over this.

- johndewar


Not upset over the deal. Just doesn't make sense to me at all. Giving up a pick for a player who is cooked. This team has too many needs and is going nowhere so why trade picks away? I just dont understand it.

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
Dustin Byfuglien, the NHL's best All Round forward (when he isn't playing D)
- Lexington Flyer

yah but he shreds the lead guitar on sugaree
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
I just think people are making too much out of it. Gagne's a depth guy at this point. Nobody even knows if he'll end up costing the Flyers anything, depending on what the conditions are.
- Jsaquella


I hope they try the KGB line just for shiz. I'm sure it will be a terrible mistake but great for the fans!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
Dustin Byfuglien, the NHL's best All Round forward (when he isn't playing D)
- Lexington Flyer


That's not Byfuglien, it's Charles Barkley
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
So you are hoping to get a conditional 4th rounder for him?
- Atomic Wedgie


I'm hoping he pulls up in a DeLorean and plays like he did when he was 26.

But at the same time, it's an inconsequential move. He hasn't played much, but he has 5 assists in 11 games.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
Neither Harry Z or Wellwood are good enough. They just aren't.

Best case for either player would be to go back to Adirondack and have Jon Sim's hands melded to either one of Harry Z's or Wellwood's skating ability and MAYBE you'd have a decent player.

- johndewar

Gagne is good enough at this point? He has no future here. Team is going nowhere. Rather have the picks for this years upcoming draft.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
I hope they try the KGB line just for shiz. I'm sure it will be a terrible mistake but great for the fans!
- coffee junkie


Can't be much worse than the Knuble-Briere-Fedotenko line
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Feb 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
I hope they try the KGB line just for shiz. I'm sure it will be a terrible mistake but great for the fans!
- coffee junkie

At this point it cant hurt, its not going to be a first line but your telling me those guys cant take peoples 3rd lines?!
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
Sarah Baicker ‏@sbaickerCSN
Me too. (Just speculation though.) RT @stixnpucks I agree, I smell a Briere deal.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
I am thinking that Homer wants some help at forward with Read gone. How deep is the draft at the 4th round? If this was a 1-3 pick I'd be mad.. as it is..I am ok with it.
- Hextall271


I have no way of predicting what that 4th round pick was going to become. I guess my point of view is one of, this is a season for growth. And to bring in gagne and knuble takes away from seeing what th kids can do.

Maybe I don't see this season as one were the flyers are in a realistic position to win the cup so I see the 4th round pick as more value then a washed up forward.


Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
At least he hasn't changed his stripes, he's still a Flyers killer.

The next faceoff he wins will be his first.

- PLindbergh31

ouch.
he has won a few... he is hovering at 30% in fact
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
Im trying so hard to find a gange jersey on ebay right now!!!

We all knew he would come back here sometime (probably when he retired). WIll be nice to see him back in the o and b

- flyers4487


I'm going to the game tomorrow and I'd be lying if I didn't say I was legitimately excited to see Gagne skate tomorrow night.

Outside of that.....I'm not expecting much.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
Gagne may not score like he did but he was always a responsible 2 way forward.
Might work OK.
Why not for a 4th rounder?

- Marc D


Also, as has been discussed..I wonder what the conditions are? Seems to me like a salary dump for LA, and we have the cap room. If the condition is, we don't give up the 4th unless we make the playoffs.. meh.. who cares.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
Briere gonzo now? hmmm
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
I just don't like the move. Personal opinion.
- stveshdy


Yep same old flyers with same answers to same questions
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
Of course they did. What other picks should we piss away?
- Just5


Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
Conditional fourth rounder. Speaking of, are the conditions known?
- BulliesPhan87

Somebody tweeted it was a conditional 4th rounder the Flyers acquired from Phoenix.
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