I thought the habs hated Ryder. Like healthy scratched and couldn't wait to trade him hate. They gave it to him good when he was in his slump, now they want to give Cole for him? Cole who they loved last year but is now in a slump and they are giving it to him. Wow the habs sure know how to make a name for themselves. Good like with the UFA's this off season.

I thought the habs hated Ryder. Like healthy scratched and couldn't wait to trade him hate. They gave it to him good when he was in his slump, now they want to give Cole for him? Cole who they loved last year but is now in a slump and they are giving it to him. Wow the habs sure know how to make a name for themselves. Good like with the UFA's this off season.
- bsteinley

UFA's have a pretty short memory once you hand them a nice, big contract. Bergevin seems like a solid GM to me so far.

Flyers should do the subtle tank and try to grab a top 5 pick. Heresy, I guess, in Flyerland.
- PrinceLH

Normally it's heresy. In this throwaway season I'm all for it. Pittsburgh proved that the tanking approach can clearly work.

Eklund: Rumor Update. Flyers with interest in Dustin Byfuglien (e3)
- Eklund

The Flyers would have to over pay huge to get Byfuglien

Buff is the best player on the Jets team Eklund what do you think the asking price from the Jets is going to be too the flyers?

My guess if this has any truth to it we are looking at center iceman.

Brayden Schenn would be coming to the Jets for sure plus a lot more.

One thing I have learned about the Winnipeg management is they do not give players away that are signed long term who are their best players.

I too think that if the Jets were to deal a player on Defense its going to be BOGO just because his contract is up after this season and he may be asking for a kings ransom.

The Jets have seen that they can win with out him in the lineup. Buff they can't win with when he is out. At least not to the extent that they win when he's healthy.

The Flyers would have to over pay huge to get Byfuglien

Buff is the best player on the Jets team Eklund what do you think the asking price from the Jets is going to be too the flyers?

My guess if this has any truth to it we are looking at center iceman.

Brayden Schenn would be coming to the Jets for sure plus a lot more.
- duckyjets

Couturier >> Schenn

Couturier >> Schenn
- Nucker101

To me Couturier is not the guy they want. They passed on him at the draft.

Schenn played most of his career in Brandon in the WHL our president of hockey ops has a huge inside in the wheat kings organization.

There is know way they trade buff thought im thinking its BOgo

To me Couturier is not the guy they want. They passed on him at the draft.

Schenn played most of his career in Brandon in the WHL our president of hockey ops has a huge inside in the wheat kings organization.

There is know way they trade buff thought im thinking its BOgo
- duckyjets

Just throwing this out there. But would it make sense for the Jets to consider a Bogosian for Schneider trade with some other parts involved? Just curious since I don't follow the Jets closely. Kane would be even better but I don't buy the rumours.

Just throwing this out there. But would it make sense for the Jets to consider a Bogosian for Schneider trade with some other parts involved? Just curious since I don't follow the Jets closely. Kane would be even better but I don't buy the rumours.
- Nucker101

I'm sure that they would love Schneider but the issue is the Jets are paying big money to Pavelec already.

Lost and bent over the table unwillingly are two different things. How Homer is still a GM is beyond me. Nothing but stupid moves the last couple years.

Flame away.

UFA's have a pretty short memory once you hand them a nice, big contract. Bergevin seems like a solid GM to me so far.
- Nucker101

Don't forget one thing - he hates the Habs, and regardless of how successful any given move may be, he will find the negative.

Don't forget one thing - he hates the Habs, and regardless of how successful any given move may be, he will find the negative.
- hscesq

I have no idea how Montreal gets any criticism for that deal. They got the younger cheaper guy with the better numbers AND got a 3rd AND cap space.

I have no idea how Montreal gets any criticism for that deal. They got the younger cheaper guy with the better numbers AND got a 3rd AND cap space.
- Aetherial

It's not like they're ready to win right now anyhow, and so agreed - the pick and the cap space are a big part of the deal.

Lost and bent over the table unwillingly are two different things. How Homer is still a GM is beyond me. Nothing but stupid moves the last couple years.

Flame away.
- lightz39

He traded Richards and Carter.. and out of those two players he got:

Jakub Voracek ( 7th in scoring with 24 points), Brayden Schenn ( 17pts), Wayne Simmonds (15 points), Sean Couturier (having a offensively difficult season but very good defensively, 7pts), Niklas Grossmann (2nd in the NHL in blocked shots and 5th in hits for a d-man), Nick Cousins (leads OHL in pts)...

Richards and Carter combined have 24pts.
The package they received in return... 63 points.


What an idiot.

He traded Richards and Carter.. and out of those two players he got:

Jakub Voracek ( 7th in scoring with 24 points), Brayden Schenn ( 17pts), Wayne Simmonds (15 points), Sean Couturier (having a offensively difficult season but very good defensively, 7pts), Niklas Grossmann (2nd in the NHL in blocked shots and 5th in hits for a d-man), Nick Cousins (leads OHL in pts)...

Richards and Carter combined have 24pts.
The package they received in return... 63 points.


What an idiot.
- jak521

Looking forward to Chip Kelly and a high draft pick though.
- Nucker101

Yeah, it should be interesting to see what he does. It looks like they're going to run a 3-4 defense, and utilize McCoy a lot more, which is smart.

ahead this season too by a lot more..


Also a 3rd and frees cap space.
- AGalchenyuk27

Opens the door for Getzlaf/Weiss/Clowe etc in the offseason. Coler's heart wasnt in it this year, potentially retiring at the end of the year and Habs get a sniper who has played under Therrien before and is a UFA. If Ryder suceeds he'll earn a new contract if not MB will dangle his line in the Free Agent waters. Habs dire need is up the middle, they'll likely move a center because they need to improve in the faceoff circle, thats where the likes of Weiss or Getz come in. Not to mention the way Timmins is able to turn mid draft picks into gems is a plus as well. Time will tell but great move by MB IMO Go Habs Go!

- SotaPopinski

thats the weight thats on Chuck Fletcher's shoulders after going out and throwing money at Parise and Suter like a stripper only to be sitting pretty in 11th place

thats the weight thats on Chuck Fletcher's shoulders after going out and throwing money at Parise and Suter like a stripper only to be sitting pretty in 11th place
- Komisaurus Rex

That was not what I wanted to see first this morning............

thats the weight thats on Chuck Fletcher's shoulders after going out and throwing money at Parise and Suter like a stripper only to be sitting pretty in 11th place
- Komisaurus Rex

Absolutely...I think that may even be Fletch on all fours

I thought the habs hated Ryder. Like healthy scratched and couldn't wait to trade him hate. They gave it to him good when he was in his slump, now they want to give Cole for him? Cole who they loved last year but is now in a slump and they are giving it to him. Wow the habs sure know how to make a name for themselves. Good like with the UFA's this off season.
- bsteinley

The Habs have managed to go from 15th to 1st, realistically competing for mid conference finish (given still lots of hockey left to be played) without the abundance of premium draft picks the Oilers have got, when was the last time the Oilers were 1st in their conference or even division during a season? since the lockout theyve had 1 competitive season. So i guess same could be said for you?...."Good luck with the UFA's this offseason"

Absolutely...I think that may even be Fletch on all fours
- SotaPopinski

He traded Richards and Carter.. and out of those two players he got:

Jakub Voracek ( 7th in scoring with 24 points), Brayden Schenn ( 17pts), Wayne Simmonds (15 points), Sean Couturier (having a offensively difficult season but very good defensively, 7pts), Niklas Grossmann (2nd in the NHL in blocked shots and 5th in hits for a d-man), Nick Cousins (leads OHL in pts)...

Richards and Carter combined have 24pts.
The package they received in return... 63 points.


What an idiot.
- jak521

It was a shrewd couple deals from Philly, that's for sure. I still think long term that Philly won both of those trades.

Philadelphia's struggles this year wouldn't be magically fixed if they still had Carter/Richards. In fact they would arguable be worse, because Couturier+Voracek are better defensively than Carter+Richards, and defensively is where they're struggling.

It was a shrewd couple deals from Philly, that's for sure. I still think long term that Philly won both of those trades.

Philadelphia's struggles this year wouldn't be magically fixed if they still had Carter/Richards. In fact they would arguable be worse, because Couturier+Voracek are better defensively than Carter+Richards, and defensively is where they're struggling.
- Scruffton

Yes, I've been saying the same thing about the L.Schenn trade as well...

It was a shrewd couple deals from Philly, that's for sure. I still think long term that Philly won both of those trades.

Philadelphia's struggles this year wouldn't be magically fixed if they still had Carter/Richards. In fact they would arguable be worse, because Couturier+Voracek are better defensively than Carter+Richards, and defensively is where they're struggling.
- Scruffton

The Flyers biggest issue is that they play like crap in their own end and in the transition game. They get stuck in their own end, or turn the puck over in the neutral zone, and it leads to a lot of wasted energy in their own zone or glorious chances to score for the opponent.

It also prevents them from scoring a lot even with the offensive talent that they have up front. Guys are gassed, and can't get to the net for screens or rebounds and the fast breaks they thrived on last year aren't there.

and then the local media blames Bryzgalov and goads him into Borat impressions