Kevin Shattenkirk is far more valuable to the Blues than Danny Briere would be.
- NickTheKid87

Are you talking Regular Season Danny or Playoff Danny...Two completely different players.

Let's put it this way. If the Blues decided they needed help up front and decided to move Shattenkirk to get that player, don't you think they'd aim a lot higher than Briere?
- bradleyc4

Without a shadow of a doubt.

I'll give up watching Hockey if the Flyers get Shattenkirk for Briere. That's how confident I am that it isn't happening.
- MJL

For the sake of Meltzer's forums Get It Done Holmer!

/sarcasm/

For the sake of Meltzer's forums Get It Done Holmer!

/sarcasm/
- Lexington Flyer

I didn't say I'll stop posting!

Are you talking Regular Season Danny or Playoff Danny...Two completely different players.
- Philly1980

Doesn't really matter. A 35 year old forward with a high cap hit isn't even close to being worth a 24 year old top pairing dman.

Let's put it this way. If the Blues decided they needed help up front and decided to move Shattenkirk to get that player, don't you think they'd aim a lot higher than Briere?
- bradleyc4

I disagree. Briere is a different player in the playoffs. Like a more skilled, less physical Claude Lemieux. He's a ppg player in the playoffs. That's Foppa-esque.

I didn't say I'll stop posting!
- MJL

'twould be a boring set of affairs here if'n you did.

Doesn't really matter. A 35 year old forward with a high cap hit isn't even close to being worth a 24 year old top pairing dman.
- NickTheKid87

The high cap hit doesn't mean a lick to a team like STL who is not near the limit. His actual salary is $5M over the next 2 years. That's a steal for a player like Briere.

I wonder what Daman would say about this wager.

I disagree. Briere is a different player in the playoffs. Like a more skilled, less physical Claude Lemieux. He's a ppg player in the playoffs. That's Foppa-esque.
- phillydentist

So you're telling me, that you would trade your #2 defenseman (24 years old) for a 35 year old forward with two years left tops?

The high cap hit doesn't mean a lick to a team like STL who is not near the limit. His actual salary is $5M over the next 2 years. That's a steal for a player like Briere.
- phillydentist

Not if you're giving up Shattenkirk to get him. Maybe a 1st rounder tops but not Shattenkirk.

I'll give up watching Hockey if the Flyers get Shattenkirk for Briere. That's how confident I am that it isn't happening.
- MJL

I will renew my center ice package for ten years if this happens...
this is even better then the Coburn/Zhitnik deal

I didn't say I'll stop posting!
- MJL

Oh, so you're admitting that the trade is possible.

So you're telling me, that you would trade your #2 defenseman (24 years old) for a 35 year old forward with two years left tops?
- NickTheKid87

Let me make this clear. I think it would be a steal for the Flyers. I wouldn't do it. My point is I can see reason for STL to do it if they really think Briere puts them over the top. Briere is a special player in the playoffs. That's indisputable. Teams have given up worse for less in the past. That's all I'm saying.

Yes, it would allowed for Boston to trade for him now, buy him out in the summer and for the Flyers to re-sign him as a UFA (although not by prior arrangement if they could prove it).

What would NOT be allowed is for the Flyers to buy him out and then re-sign him at a lower cap figure.
- bmeltzer

Could Briere say to Boston that he would waive the NMC only if they agree to the buyout?

Let me make this clear. I think it would be a steal for the Flyers. I wouldn't do it. My point is I can see reason for STL to do it if they really think Briere puts them over the top. Briere is a special player in the playoffs. That's indisputable. Teams have given up worse for less in the past. That's all I'm saying.
- phillydentist

I can see the reason St. Louis would want Briere but there is ZERO logic in trading Shattenkirk. Doug Armstrong is far from an idiot. It will NEVER happen.

I disagree. Briere is a different player in the playoffs. Like a more skilled, less physical Claude Lemieux. He's a ppg player in the playoffs. That's Foppa-esque.
- phillydentist

The Blues are not going to trade a 24 year old defenseman, who is among the leading scorers at his position for a 35 year old Briere.

Briere's got 2 years left with a $6.5mm cap hit and he's 35. He's got a NMC which limits the possibility of a bidding war for his services.

Unless a team is really desperate, I doubt Briere fetches much more than a 2nd rounder & mid level prospect.

not sure if alot of guys here are confusing shattenkirk with pietrangelo or not but briere for shatenkirk is a pretty fair trade imo, he is nothing spectaculari n fact he was traded with stewart for eric johnson.

what briere would give the blues in the playoffs would far more surpass what we would get from shatty, in fact i would think the blues would have to add something to the deal, not us.

i see guys posting briere+1st's+laughton or maybe coots and scheenn, thats non-sense.
- mydoglicks

Shattenkirk is the second highest scoring Defenseman in the NHL this year, and he's 24.

I disagree. Briere is a different player in the playoffs. Like a more skilled, less physical Claude Lemieux. He's a ppg player in the playoffs. That's Foppa-esque.
- phillydentist

I'll put this as clearly as I can. Straight up Briere for Shattenkirk is not happening.

Could Briere say to Boston that he would waive the NMC only if they agree to the buyout?
- nastyflyergirl

They can't do it openly, but I'm sure there could be a wink-wink, nudge-nudge deal

I can see the reason St. Louis would want Briere but there is ZERO logic in trading Shattenkirk. Doug Armstrong is far from an idiot. It will NEVER happen.
- NickTheKid87

I don't disagree. I just won't be totally shocked if it did though.

Voracek is turning into a pretty good player, has been hot since playoffs of last year. No way do he and Briere (and Gustafson) get traded for Shatterbutt or whatever and Stewart. I like Stewart but he's another Simmonds and Flyers need playmakers.

I don't disagree. I just won't be totally shocked if it did though.
- phillydentist

If a Shattenkirk for Briere deal doesn't shock you than I can't even begin to fathom what would.

3 point night for Couts tonight. Instant chemistry with Gags.

Voracek is turning into a pretty good player, has been hot since playoffs of last year. No way do he and Briere (and Gustafson) get traded for Shatterbutt or whatever and Stewart. I like Stewart but he's another Simmonds and Flyers need playmakers.
- flyerfan28

I would do Jake, Gus and Danny for Shattenkirk and Stewart.