The Blues have 33 million in Cap space next year. I think it's safe to say they are staying with the Blues unless a trade happens.
- Blueshockey47

what is there internal cap....most teams cant afford nor are willing to go to the cap ceiling.....one of the things that make Briere attractive cap wise is although his cap hit is 6.5 million per year he is only owed 5 million total in the final two years of his deal

not to mention he hates canada.
- hammarby31

I'd do Briere and a 1st for Shattenkirk and their 2nd. Briere helps them more than Read does for what they want to do and thats win the Cup the next 3yrs. If the Flyers miss the playoffs, I get the feeling that will be a sweet 1st rd pick and so I'd want their 2nd back. If they have a deep playoff run, their 2nd is almost like a high 3rd so it's not as lopsided for us as it looks.
- phillydentist

Thats insane.

If we were to ask for Shattenkirk.. they would likely want either Schenn, Voracek or Couts... TO START

St. Louis would never accept that offer in 3 trillion years.
- NickTheKid87

I guess we have Armstrong's personal representative on this board.

- bradleyc4

bump

Flames traded Joe Piskula to Nashville for Brian McGratton.

So yes, they just traded a player for a guy that cleared waivers.

The Blues have 33 million in Cap space next year. I think it's safe to say they are staying with the Blues unless a trade happens.
- Blueshockey47

You obviously have not taken this upcoming FA in to consideration, have you?

AP is getting a HUGE raise. Shattenkirk.. should be getting a huge raise. Ian Cole and Kris Russel need to be paid. Andy McDonald is gone, do you resign or try to replace? Chris Stewart needs and Berglund need to be paid.

Flames traded Joe Piskula to Nashville for Brian McGratton.

So yes, they just traded a player for a guy that cleared waivers.
- Jsaquella

That pooor pooor franchise.

I agree on Fedotenko. I have no problem with his game. Although, I don't expect him to score boat loads of goals. Fedotenko is a stablizing factor on the 4th line. Let HarryZ and Ronaldo do their jobs, and let Fedotenko be the anchor.

HarryZ versus McGinn means a different line up. I don't see McGinn playing the fourth line. I say rotate them depending on the opponent - If its a big team, McGinn or if the team is quicker, HarryZ.
- leon neon

Look we need a whipping boy. Carle, Carter, and JVR are gone. Feds has picked up the mantle quite admirably along with Regular Season Danny.

Flames traded Joe Piskula to Nashville for Brian McGratton.

So yes, they just traded a player for a guy that cleared waivers.
- Jsaquella

Likely wanted to unload an unwanted contract.

Never. Armstrong isn't an idiot.
- NickTheKid87

I dont know if you add a defensive player along with Briere ( who they reportedly want) plus a prospect and a high pick I truly they would be crazy not to consider it

Likely wanted to unload an unwanted contract.
- bradleyc4

Still strange.

Flames traded Joe Piskula to Nashville for Brian McGratton.

So yes, they just traded a player for a guy that cleared waivers.
- Jsaquella

Holmer has to get Feaster on speed-dial, ASAP.

You obviously have not taken this upcoming FA in to consideration, have you.

AP is getting a HUGE raise. Shattenkirk.. should be getting a huge raise. Ian Cole and Kris Russel need to be paid. Andy McDonald is gone, do you resign or try to replace? Chris Stewart needs and Berglund need to be paid.
- jak521

You just helped make my argument why STL can't ask for the moon for Shattenkirk. Holmgren can try to poach Pietr/Shatt this summer with offer sheet(s).

You just helped make my argument why STL can't ask for the moon for Shattenkirk. Holmgren can try to poach Pietr/Shatt this summer with offer sheet(s).
- phillydentist

Worked great with Kessler and Weber! Great way to keep yourself in good graces with your fellow GMs as well

You don't know until you try... Nothing to lose trying...
- phillydentist

Let's ask for Pietrangelo also! You don't know until you try...nothing to lose trying...

You just helped make my argument why STL can't ask for the moon for Shattenkirk. Holmgren can try to poach Pietr/Shatt this summer with offer sheet(s).
- phillydentist

Considering the changes to contract structure in the new CBA (no more front loading to cripple a small market team), I think the offer sheet route has much less chance of "working" moving forward

You obviously have not taken this upcoming FA in to consideration, have you?

AP is getting a HUGE raise. Shattenkirk.. should be getting a huge raise. Ian Cole and Kris Russel need to be paid. Andy McDonald is gone, do you resign or try to replace? Chris Stewart needs and Berglund need to be paid.
- jak521

Blues have the Cap space to get that all done.

You obviously have not taken this upcoming FA in to consideration, have you?

AP is getting a HUGE raise. Shattenkirk.. should be getting a huge raise. Ian Cole and Kris Russel need to be paid. Andy McDonald is gone, do you resign or try to replace? Chris Stewart needs and Berglund need to be paid.
- jak521

Yea I've done a few worst case scenarios with the cap space. The main points I put were that Petro gets 7.4m, Shattenkirk gets 6.4, and Stewart gets a 1m raise. Other players remained relatively the same because the contracts they were offered before matched with their stats are still market value. The numbers I came out with were 58m. Leaving a 6m cap space, which is reasonable because the new ownership has stated it is more than willing to pay to win. We now have an ownership in St. Louis that lives in St. Louis and genuinly wants to put a winning team on the ice.

You don't know until you try... Nothing to lose trying...
- phillydentist

Really? Because the Flyers wasted a lot of time trying last summer, and came home empty handed. I wouldn't gamble on a franchise getting by on strong hockey (rather than just a naturally strong market) letting one of their biggest assets go.

I guess we have Armstrong's personal representative on this board.
- phillydentist

Nah, just being rational.

You just helped make my argument why STL can't ask for the moon for Shattenkirk. Holmgren can try to poach Pietr/Shatt this summer with offer sheet(s).
- phillydentist

I think Homer would do what he can to secure the services of whatever player he goes after so he doesnt have another painful offseason of waiting and disappointment like the previous one

Let's ask for Pietrangelo also! You don't know until you try...nothing to lose trying...
- MJL

You don't have to ask for Pietrangelo when you can offer sheet him this summer...

You don't know until you try...

Flames traded Joe Piskula to Nashville for Brian McGratton.

So yes, they just traded a player for a guy that cleared waivers.
- Jsaquella

Contract count related?

Likely wanted to unload an unwanted contract.
- bradleyc4

Possible, but why trade it for another contract that just cleared waivers?

Still stuck with the same number of contracts on the books.