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nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 28 @ 1:03 PM ET
Identify team need + vastly overrate own player + check stats on NHL.com + quick stop at capgeek = internet trade rumor
- Jsaquella



Thats about right....but you left out listening to beat writers who know about as much as we do....
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 28 @ 1:03 PM ET
I had that...then I went Advanced:


- Lexington Flyer

Yes, but no one is in here calling others "Advanced." Except Jsaq with regard to Tman's age.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 28 @ 1:04 PM ET
Might as well give up and switch to ryab fist mode, sir.
- BulliesPhan87


I feel my spelling of names slowly starting to falter...
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 28 @ 1:05 PM ET
Hey, my crops are thinning, too.

We can't all be as blessed as Skip, with his unstoppable Chia Head

- Jsaquella

I do worry after every shower when there's a mini-toupee gathered at the drain.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 28 @ 1:05 PM ET
They got swept, but made the playoffs. Don Waddell kept his job until sane people bought the team and moved it to Winnipeg
- Jsaquella


I honestly believe that Seattle or Portland would be a great spot to relocate a team...Do you see how crazy people from Seattle go for the Sounders...if they got a hockey team it would be an instant success IMO
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:06 PM ET
I do worry after every shower when there's a mini-toupee gathered at the drain.
- Flyskippy


You go the damned Amazon rainforest on your head, a few acres at the drain is nothing for you
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 28 @ 1:06 PM ET
nope. never. and then he went back to russia. (frank)ing assclown.

i've got no beef with grabovski. just sucks something so dumb ends a HOFer's career. wear a (frank)ing visor, ya' dope. no guarantee, but a better chance of being protected.

- hammarby31


Yeah I agree on Grabo, but damn, thinking about the high calibre Flyers players that have ended their career with freak/weird/intentional injuries over the last 15 years man: Lindros (had a decent year or two in NYR but was never the E-train again), Primeau, Foppa, and now Pronger. Jesus. In every case, those guys were THE GUY on the team when they went down. That is some hard luck.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:06 PM ET
And Zhitnik is no Briere who is a proven playoff beast... with 3 potential playoff runs and not just a 2 month rental.
- phillydentist



You were asked to name a comparable trade to the one you think is a possibility. Coburn for Zhitnik is not comparable. There's another issue that I'm curious about. You criticized the Gagne deal because the Flyers were taking a Cap hit off of LA's hands. So you think that the Flyers should have gotten him cheaper. Never mind that you didn't even take inot consideration that LA didn't need the Cap space. As they have plenty available even before moving Gagne. But why doesn't that same logic apply to the Flyers dealing Briere? Isn't a team taking the Cap hit off of the Flyers hands? So how can you expect that good of a return? Not to mention that the Flyers are actually a team that can use the Cap space. And not to mention that Gagne is on an expiring contract. And Briere is not. The two opinions don't jive with one another.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
I honestly believe that Seattle or Portland would be a great spot to relocate a team...Do you see how crazy people from Seattle go for the Sounders...if they got a hockey team it would be an instant success IMO
- nonpoint22


I agree. Seattle & Houston should have gotten teams instead of Atlnata and say, Phoenix
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
You were asked to name a comparable trade to the one you think is a possibility. Coburn for Zhitnik is not comparable. There's another issue that I'm curious about. You criticized the Gagne deal because the Flyers were taking a Cap hit off of LA's hands. So you think that the Flyers should have gotten him cheaper. Never mind that you didn't even take inot consideration that LA didn't need the Cap space. As they have plenty available even before moving Gagne. But why doesn't that same logic apply to the Flyers dealing Briere? Isn't a team taking the Cap hit off of the Flyers hands? So how can you expect that good of a return? Not to mention that the Flyers are actually a team that can use the Cap space. And not to mention that Gagne is on an expiring contract. And Briere is not. The two opinions don't jive with one another.
- MJL

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
Speaking of which, anyone want to play Expert?


- Flyskippy

I still have all of the originals. Haven't took one of the shelf for 33 years.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 28 @ 1:08 PM ET
You go the damned Amazon rainforest on your head, a few acres at the drain is nothing for you
- Jsaquella

vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:09 PM ET
Hey, my crops are thinning, too.

We can't all be as blessed as Skip, with his unstoppable Chia Head

- Jsaquella

Chia seeds are good for you
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:09 PM ET
True, but that's not a rule of thumb.













Jerk.

- tangent_man


Damn it! Work sucks. I can't jump in here I'm always Leight! Not that my witticisms would amuse anyone but myself... sigh... But some great old jokes could have been had...
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 28 @ 1:09 PM ET
Yeah I agree on Grabo, but damn, thinking about the high calibre Flyers players that have ended their career with freak/weird/intentional injuries over the last 15 years man: Lindros (had a decent year or two in NYR but was never the E-train again), Primeau, Foppa, and now Pronger. Jesus. In every case, those guys were THE GUY on the team when they went down. That is some hard luck.
- Lexington Flyer


curse of the flyers captaincy....watch out G
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:10 PM ET
But like Nashville, St. Louis has limited funds. They'd at least have to think twice before agreeing to match a deal heavily loaded with upfront bonus money.
- bradleyc4


BUt if the Flyers do this they hurt themselves cap wise. At least at the amount they would have to do to get him.

tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:10 PM ET
Damn it! Work sucks. I can't jump in here I'm always Leight! Not that my witticisms would amuse anyone but myself... sigh... But some great old jokes could have been had...
- FlyersGrace


Ah, go with it, Gracie. What the hell...
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 28 @ 1:10 PM ET
I still have all of the originals. Haven't took one of the shelf for 33 years.
- mayorofangrytown

You never played any RPG's with your son?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:11 PM ET
I still have all of the originals. Haven't took one of the shelf for 33 years.
- mayorofangrytown


That's very sad. We have a game every weekend. No kidding. World building is one of my favorite things. Kicking someone in the face even in my imagination is my second.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:11 PM ET
so, barring injury, is this the last time we'll see leighton in a flyers uni?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:12 PM ET
You never played any RPG's with your son?
- Flyskippy


Careful, this is a family-friendly forum.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:12 PM ET
You were asked to name a comparable trade to the one you think is a possibility. Coburn for Zhitnik is not comparable. There's another issue that I'm curious about. You criticized the Gagne deal because the Flyers were taking a Cap hit off of LA's hands. So you think that the Flyers should have gotten him cheaper. Never mind that you didn't even take inot consideration that LA didn't need the Cap space. As they have plenty available even before moving Gagne. But why doesn't that same logic apply to the Flyers dealing Briere? Isn't a team taking the Cap hit off of the Flyers hands? So how can you expect that good of a return? Not to mention that the Flyers are actually a team that can use the Cap space. And not to mention that Gagne is on an expiring contract. And Briere is not. The two opinions don't jive with one another.
- MJL

I thought you weren"t going to mention those last two things?

I feel betrayed.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
I agree. Seattle & Houston should have gotten teams instead of Atlnata and say, Phoenix
- Jsaquella


Columbus a possible move ....and I dont know about Houston...I just think that it is a cold weather sport and I dont want anymore southern teams....whats next the New Orleans Ice Pelicans
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Damn it! Work sucks. I can't jump in here I'm always Leight! Not that my witticisms would amuse anyone but myself... sigh... But some great old jokes could have been had...
- FlyersGrace

Never too late to chime in - unless it's with hockey news. Give it a shot. Worst that can happen is you turn out to be Bruno Kirby's character from Good Morning Vietnam.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Damn it! Work sucks. I can't jump in here I'm always Leight! Not that my witticisms would amuse anyone but myself... sigh... But some great old jokes could have been had...
- FlyersGrace


Don't worry about timing...what matters here is hurting one another's feelings
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