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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Ah, go with it, Gracie. What the hell...
- tangent_man


Sadly half the fun is the perect timing. Comedy and tragedy are close cousins. (More so on this board).
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Feb 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
You criticized the Gagne deal because the Flyers were taking a Cap hit off of LA's hands. So you think that the Flyers should have gotten him cheaper. Never mind that you didn't even take inot consideration that LA didn't need the Cap space. As they have plenty available even before moving Gagne. But why doesn't that same logic apply to the Flyers dealing Briere? Isn't a team taking the Cap hit off of the Flyers hands? So how can you expect that good of a return? Not to mention that the Flyers are actually a team that can use the Cap space. And not to mention that Gagne is on an expiring contract. And Briere is not. The two opinions don't jive with one another.
- MJL


Regarding Gagne, WE (who are over the limit and must use LTIR) are taking the cap hit and taking $2.1M left on his salary for a player they weren't even playing so consideration should be taken for that. And just because LA had cap room to spare doesn't negate the fact that they have even more cap room and salary relief to get a piece at the TDL.

As for Briere, his cap hit doesn't matter to STL as they are $20M under the limit. What matters to them is his salary which is $5M over the next two years - a steal for him.

Briere isn't damaged goods (sorry Gagne fans) and is universally considered a playoff point producing machine. While Gagne has played a dozen games in the past 7 months. Also, as far as we know, only the Flyers wanted Gagne but there are at least two teams "speculated" to want Briere.

There is no conflict. Only that the teams involved have different cap and salary situations and you are throwing them all in together.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 28 @ 1:14 PM ET
so, barring injury, is this the last time we'll see leighton in a flyers uni?
- isaiah520


Hopefully
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:14 PM ET
Yeah I agree on Grabo, but damn, thinking about the high calibre Flyers players that have ended their career with freak/weird/intentional injuries over the last 15 years man: Lindros (had a decent year or two in NYR but was never the E-train again), Primeau, Foppa, and now Pronger. Jesus. In every case, those guys were THE GUY on the team when they went down. That is some hard luck.
- Lexington Flyer

They should have done what the old Flyers did, not name the best player on the team (you know, minus Primeau) and go with the Bridgman, Poulin type.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:14 PM ET
Never too late to chime in - unless it's with hockey news. Give it a shot. Worst that can happen is you turn out to be Bruno Kirby's character from Good Morning Vietnam.
- Flyskippy


Sir, in my heart, I know I'm funny
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:14 PM ET
Sadly half the fun is the perect timing. Comedy and tragedy are close cousins. (More so on this board).
- FlyersGrace


True. I've stopped myself from posting due to tardiness before.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:14 PM ET
Columbus a possible move ....and I dont know about Houston...I just think that it is a cold weather sport and I dont want anymore southern teams....whats next the New Orleans Ice Pelicans
- nonpoint22


Their mascot could be a large drunk fat man. No wait. That's ours.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:15 PM ET
Sadly half the fun is the perect timing. Comedy and tragedy are close cousins. (More so on this board).
- FlyersGrace


On this board Comedy and Tragedy are often the same thing
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:15 PM ET
You never played any RPG's with your son?
- Flyskippy

Yeah, I pretend to be his father and he pretends to be a decent student... we laugh, oh how we laugh.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:15 PM ET
Their mascot could be a large drunk fat man. No wait. That's ours.
- FlyersGrace


Yep, and the Flyers have one too.

(Thinly veiled Jsaq joke)
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 28 @ 1:16 PM ET
Their mascot could be a large drunk fat man. No wait. That's ours.
- FlyersGrace


Fantastic....quote of the day for me...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
Yep, and the Flyers have one too.

(Thinly veiled Jsaq joke)

- tangent_man


I might be fat and drunk, but I'm definitely not large


Yeah, you veiled that in Saran wrap
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
I might be fat and drunk, but I'm definitely not large
- Jsaquella


So your big boned?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:18 PM ET
I might be fat and drunk, but I'm definitely not large


Yeah, you veiled that in Saran wrap

- Jsaquella


You are still the Great Rotund-O.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:18 PM ET
On this board Comedy and Tragedy are often the same thing
- Jsaquella

beware the Ides of March
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
I still have all of the originals. Haven't took one of the shelf for 33 years.
- mayorofangrytown


Be careful getting those down. As you age you can lose some hit points stretching to reach stuff.

I sold all by D&D stuff to a buddy of mine when I hit 16. Kept my dice collection though. Something about access to a car, a little bit of freedom from the parents, and "parking" with catholic high school cheerleaders took my mind off my level 17 dwarf king. My buddy still games avidly. He is/was all into warhammer and who knows what else these days...though I am pretty sure he still gets out the classic AD&D once in a while.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
I might be fat and drunk, but I'm definitely not large


Yeah, you veiled that in Saran wrap

- Jsaquella


He had to tell us who he meant. So yeah it kinda missed the target. I just thought he had a special relationship with Santa.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
Yeah, I pretend to be his father and he pretends to be a decent student... we laugh, oh how we laugh.
- mayorofangrytown

tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
He had to tell us who he meant. So yeah it kinda missed the target. I just thought he had a special relationship with Santa.
- FlyersGrace


To be fair, not everyone has had the *cough* pleasure of meeting Jsaq in person.


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
So your big boned?
- Philly1980


Is the stomach a bone? If so, then, yes, I am
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
You are still the Great Rotund-O.
- tangent_man


Yes, now that I'm off probation, I can do kid's parties again
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
Be careful getting those down. As you age you can lose some hit points stretching to reach stuff.

I sold all by D&D stuff to a buddy of mine when I hit 16. Kept my dice collection though. Something about access to a car, a little bit of freedom from the parents, and "parking" with catholic high school cheerleaders took my mind off my level 17 dwarf king. My buddy still games avidly. He is/was all into warhammer and who knows what else these days...though I am pretty sure he still gets out the classic AD&D once in a while.

- Lexington Flyer

I stopped playing for 10 years. Got back into it when my brother came home from the USMC & he wanted to play again.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
To be fair, not everyone has had the *cough* pleasure of meeting Jsaq in person.
- tangent_man


I have to admit, one of the things I'm most excited about with the return of Gagne is a nice drunken rant.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 28 @ 1:23 PM ET
Their mascot could be a large drunk fat man. No wait. That's ours.
- FlyersGrace


No that is Columbus' mascot...unfortunately he always shows up to games in Buckeye gear.

Columbus, OH...a drinking town with a football problem.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:24 PM ET
I have to admit, one of the things I'm most excited about with the return of Gagne is a nice drunken rant.
- Jsaquella


That was an experience.
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