I think the Flames are going to committ to him which is why they put in the offer sheet.
- stveshdy

So they your statement that the Flames are in a good spot because it's two years, is moot.

What picks are they giving up?

The 1st round pick isn't a loss b/c they get O'Reilly.

Depending who else they trade they could get more picks back.
- stveshdy

Whoever else they trade doesn't offset anything, to me, because they could trade that player anyway.

From what I understand, they're losing a 1st and a 3rd. So that's one less prospect, an acceptable loss if O'Reilly is the caliber player you feel he will be (this may come across as a jab, I promise it's not). But you also only get a year and change with O'Reilly now, as opposed to the three year entry level contract. So I think there's something tangibly at risk here, yes.

So they your statement that the Flames are in a good spot because it's two years, is moot.
- MJL

They have the option to do what they like with O'Reilly. Thats a good spot. It's better than not having him IMO.

Whoever else they trade doesn't offset anything, to me, because they could trade that player anyway. From what I understand, they're losing a 1st and a 3rd. So that's one less prospect, an acceptable loss if O'Reilly is the caliber player you feel he will be (this may come across as a jab, I promise it's not). But you also only get a year and change with O'Reilly now, as opposed to the three year entry level contract. So I think there's something tangibly at risk here, yes.
- BulliesPhan87

No guarantee the player drafted at #7 is going to be as good as O'Reilly. The Flyers trade 3rd rounders every single year. At that point in the draft its more luck than anything.

So they your statement that the Flames are in a good spot because it's two years, is moot.
- MJL

I cant do it anymore. Good luck.

My final thought is this. Flames are nowhere close to competing for a Cup in the next two years. Give me the (likely high) draft pick I can control for the foreseeable future over the guy that just held out cause 5 million wasn't good enough for his 50-somepoint season.
This guy is going to be an absolute nightmare to sign long term.

No guarantee the player drafted at #7 is going to be as good as O'Reilly. The Flyers trade 3rd rounders every single year. At that point in the draft its more luck than anything.
- stveshdy

There isn't any guarantee, you're right.

What the Flyers do with third rounders is irrelevant, though. I would put the cutoff for 'low round pick' at after the third round, personally.

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There isn't any guarantee, you're right.

What the Flyers do with third rounders is irrelevant, though. I would put the cutoff for 'low round pick' at after the third round, personally.

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- BulliesPhan87

Will see what happens. I understand what you all are saying but I don't think it's a bad move by the Flames.

So on a brighter note anyone else hoping for Penguin blood on the ice tonight?

They have the option to do what they like with O'Reilly. Thats a good spot. It's better than not having him IMO.
- stveshdy

Well since we can't see what would happen with the draft picks. There really isn't all the information available needed. Obviously the Flames think it's better.

And what happens when this 2 year deal is up?

I cant do it anymore. Good luck.

My final thought is this. Flames are nowhere close to competing for a Cup in the next two years. Give me the (likely high) draft pick I can control for the foreseeable future over the guy that just held out cause 5 million wasn't good enough for his 50-somepoint season.
This guy is going to be an absolute nightmare to sign long term.
- hereticpride

I agree with you.

Desperation smells like a mix of drakkar and stale beer and right now, Jay Feaster reeks of it.

Thing about this new job is I miss all the highly advanced intellectual articulate elaboration on the sport of hockey centered around my favoritest bestest hockey team ever in the history of mankind in regards to sporting events televised or not.

Desperation smells like a mix of drakkar and stale beer and right now, Jay Feaster reeks of it.
- johndewar

Haha, don't knock drakkar, on the right guy it can still rock. And any girl under 18 has never had experience with it so should stand you in a good stead.

Will see what happens. I understand what you all are saying but I don't think it's a bad move by the Flames.
- stveshdy

We... Will... See... We'll see

Will see what happens. I understand what you all are saying but I don't think it's a bad move by the Flames.
- stveshdy

If he plays well enough, you'll have a healthy sum of bragging rights.

Thing about this new job is I miss all the highly advanced intellectual articulate elaboration on the sport of hockey centered around my favoritest bestest hockey team ever in the history of mankind in regards to sporting events televised or not.
- JoeRussomanno

Is the paycheck humongous big?

I cant do it anymore. Good luck.

My final thought is this. Flames are nowhere close to competing for a Cup in the next two years. Give me the (likely high) draft pick I can control for the foreseeable future over the guy that just held out cause 5 million wasn't good enough for his 50-somepoint season.
This guy is going to be an absolute nightmare to sign long term.
- hereticpride

I heard the hold out wasn't because of money, but the alternative isn't any more savory to me, as an imaginary GM.

Is the paycheck humongous big?
- FlyersGrace

it will get there tho

Desperation smells like a mix of drakkar and stale beer and right now, Jay Feaster reeks of it.
- johndewar

More likely Feaster reeks of kielbasa and sauerkraut.

it will get there tho
- JoeRussomanno

That's what she said.
Sorry to good to walk away from.
And good for you!

I heard the hold out wasn't because of money, but the alternative isn't any more savory to me, as an imaginary GM.
- BulliesPhan87

It's always about money. His Father's comments were very telling. The holdout would definitely make me question his character if I was Feaster.

More likely Feaster reeks of kielbasa and sauerkraut.


- PLindbergh31

Desperation smells like a mix of drakkar and stale beer and right now, Jay Feaster reeks of it.
- johndewar

I reeked of drakkar in high school!

That's what she said. Before applying her talents to said objective .
Sorry to good to walk away from.
And good for you!
- FlyersGrace

Ftfy kept it as clean as possible


Thanks tho. being a masseur at a tanning salon has its perks tho

I reeked of drakkar in high school!
- Just5

Did you wear cavaricci's in grade school?