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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 7:05 PM ET
I know you guys are probably not too happy with the suspension but I think it was the right decision. I won't comment on what alfie did, I'll leave it up to the league for discipline. I have no problem with big hits, in fact I love them, but why would HZ leave his feet like that? He charged from the bench, took a run at a player and then left his feet. Sadly, if he didn't leave his feet, he still would have creamed Lundin and it'd be a clean hard legal hit.
- Multiple Scorgasms


I have zero issue with the Zolnierczyk suspension.

I do dislike the inconsistency of the NHL, where players like James Neal can lay the same hit and get one game, or where Alfredsson can cross check a dude in the head twice and get nothing in the very same game where Zolnierczyk got dinged for 4.

It's the same system where Brayden Schenn got a game for a hit one week, and then the very next week, three similar hits drew nothing from the league.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 7:05 PM ET
Final

London - 6
Kitchener - 1

Stolarz (London) has 30 saves.

- ob18

What league is this again?
Edit: disregard
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 3 @ 7:07 PM ET
Speaking for myself, I am super satisfied with the discipline handed down to Harry Z. I've wanted him out of the line up since the Penguins game. He has made at least three irresponsible plays in the last week and a half. He's a fourth line energy guy who is you responsible with this speed and costing is team. I am glad our Coach is being forced to try someone else. I really don't see Harry Z getting back into the line up beyond ease for games.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 7:11 PM ET
is he still the OHL leading scorer?
- Winning


No he's now 4 points behind Sarnia Sting forward Charles Sarault & tied with Vincent Trocheck of the Plymouth Whalers

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/stats/show
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 7:11 PM ET
What league is this again?
Edit: disregard

- JoeRussomanno



OHL
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 3 @ 7:12 PM ET
I have zero issue with the Zolnierczyk suspension.

I do dislike the inconsistency of the NHL, where players like James Neal can lay the same hit and get one game, or where Alfredsson can cross check a dude in the head twice and get nothing in the very same game where Zolnierczyk got dinged for 4.

It's the same system where Brayden Schenn got a game for a hit one week, and then the very next week, three similar hits drew nothing from the league.

- Jsaquella

In my opinion Harry Z has had a free pass since the Pittsburgh Penguin game. This was his third strike
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 7:22 PM ET
In my opinion Harry Z has had a free pass since the Pittsburgh Penguin game. This was his third strike
- SuperSchennBros


He's had his undisciplined moments, for sure. But he's also been part of a pretty effective 4th line.

That said, as a guy who plays between 7-10 minutes a night, the first job has to be to avoid doing something unnecessary or stupid that hurts the team.

He had a boarding penalty against the Pens, and the hit against the Senators. The hit in the Capitals game was a legal hit, so not sure how that's a strike against him. It's unfortunate he hasn't managed to learn the control Rinaldo has found.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 3 @ 7:25 PM ET
He's had his undisciplined moments, for sure. But he's also been part of a pretty effective 4th line.

That said, as a guy who plays between 7-10 minutes a night, the first job has to be to avoid doing something unnecessary or stupid that hurts the team.

He had a boarding penalty against the Pens, and the hit against the Senators. The hit in the Capitals game was a legal hit, so not sure how that's a strike against him. It's unfortunate he hasn't managed to learn the control Rinaldo has found.

- Jsaquella

It's a strike because getting noticed...clean or not. You can make an argument for all the hits, but players on the other side of these hits are getting hurt
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 7:26 PM ET
OHL
- ob18

I thought he was going college, what happened with that? I suppose juniors will be a better route.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 7:37 PM ET
It's a strike because getting noticed...clean or not. You can make an argument for all the hits, but players on the other side of these hits are getting hurt
- SuperSchennBros


If there's a perfectly clean and legal hit and somebody on the other side gets hurt, I fail to see how it's a bad thing. A hit that is outside the rules and dirty, like the hit on Lundin, absolutely is a bad thing.

But a 4th liner, knocking a guy on his ass cleanly? If you have an issue with that I have to ask why?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 3 @ 7:37 PM ET
I was offered B. Schenn and Couture for Eric Staal
what do you guys think?

- 2Real

bump
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 7:38 PM ET
I thought he was going college, what happened with that? I suppose juniors will be a better route.
- JoeRussomanno


He wasn't getting any playing time, as a freshman-and when he did, he was out of sorts.

Now he's playing regularly and as a result, he's playing very well.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 7:38 PM ET
bump
- 2Real


GIT R DUNE HOLMGROBLIN
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 3 @ 7:41 PM ET
GIT R DUNE HOLMGROBLIN
- Jsaquella

I have a hard time deciding San Jose is cold as dirt right now and eric staal is hot as hell
schenn is a kicker but he's hot right now no idea if he'll cool off the rest of the way
plus staal gets me FW
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 7:44 PM ET
I have a hard time deciding San Jose is cold as dirt right now and eric staal is hot as hell
schenn is a kicker but he's hot right now no idea if he'll cool off the rest of the way
plus staal gets me FW

- 2Real


I have no idea, I don't play fantasy hockey. I just felt like saying Git R Dune, Holmgroblin
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 7:45 PM ET
Maybe with Cam Ward hurt, the Hurricanes will trade for Michael Leighton
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 7:49 PM ET
After 1

Peterborough - 0
Sault Ste. Marie - 0

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 3 @ 7:49 PM ET
I have a hard time deciding San Jose is cold as dirt right now and eric staal is hot as hell
schenn is a kicker but he's hot right now no idea if he'll cool off the rest of the way
plus staal gets me FW

- 2Real


found some security footage of your dinner last night

vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 3 @ 7:53 PM ET
GIT R DUNE HOLMGROBLIN
- Jsaquella

I smell a trade with St Louis
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 3 @ 7:58 PM ET
found some security footage of your dinner last night


- Crimsoninja

wrong color
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 3 @ 7:59 PM ET
If there's a perfectly clean and legal hit and somebody on the other side gets hurt, I fail to see how it's a bad thing. A hit that is outside the rules and dirty, like the hit on Lundin, absolutely is a bad thing.

But a 4th liner, knocking a guy on his ass cleanly? If you have an issue with that I have to ask why?

- Jsaquella

Three hits in less then two weeks. All three someone has gotten hurt. One of three were clean. End result, the league has to start watching this guy due to recklessness. Personally, I thought the hit in Pittsburgh was an accident but I also thought it was irresponsible. Maybe the hit against Washington was an accident, but who's to say it wasn't revenge for Simmonds? Eye for an eye? My point is the suspension had to be handed down
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:01 PM ET
Three hits in less then two weeks. All three someone has gotten hurt. One of three were clean. End result, the league has to start watching this guy due to recklessness. Personally, I thought the hit in Pittsburgh was an accident but I also thought it was irresponsible.
- SuperSchennBros


What is the difference between his hit yesterday and what Neal did?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:04 PM ET
What is the difference between his hit yesterday and what Neal did?
- opeth_pa

Three times in less then two weeks
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 3 @ 8:08 PM ET
What is the difference between his hit yesterday and what Neal did?
- opeth_pa


Neal plays a regular shift while Harry Z. is a scrub?
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 3 @ 8:12 PM ET
Three hits in less then two weeks. All three someone has gotten hurt. One of three were clean. End result, the league has to start watching this guy due to recklessness. Personally, I thought the hit in Pittsburgh was an accident but I also thought it was irresponsible. Maybe the hit against Washington was an accident, but who's to say it wasn't revenge for Simmonds? Eye for an eye? My point is the suspension had to be handed down
- SuperSchennBros


The hit in Pitts happens every single game, with no call, yet Harry manages to get called on it. He gave him the extra shove. He deserved the call, but that gets let go probably 75% of the time...again it speaks to consistency with discipline in the NHL.

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