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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 11:06 PM ET
How may games has he played this Season. He's been hurt. Giroux and Hartnell have chemistry. Makes zero sense to take Hartnell off of the 1st PP unit.
- MJL


Not this year. Hartnell's obviously washed up. Trade him for Shattenkirk
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:09 PM ET
Not this year. Hartnell's obviously washed up. Trade him for Shattenkirk
- Jsaquella

Hartnell, Cote's wife, free cheesesteaks for the year (choice between Jim's, Pat's, or Geno's), a free pass for everything inside the Reading Terminal Market, and a really, really nice pen with an engravment of choice for Pietrangelo.

GID HOMGOBBLER
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 3 @ 11:09 PM ET


thought the same thing

- FlyerMike18

clockwork
shekkie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Perkasie, PA
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 3 @ 11:10 PM ET
Good evening fellow knuckledraggers.


Re: Harry the Z, fitting suspension, the kid has to play smarter than that and he was living on the edge all week, finally caught up to him.

For whatever I don't remember him playing like this last year. I thought he looked much smarter and on the ball last year and just checking...37 games last year, 35 PIM. This year 6 games 36 PIM (though I don't know if that's corrected for his negated kneeing penalty). Could be he's pushing too hard because getting up with the big club is harder this year than last or there's more competition but something is definitely different.

He'll either figure it out or not but I'm not sure he'll get another shot at it this year.
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Mar 3 @ 11:12 PM ET
He'll either figure it out or not but I'm not sure he'll get another shot at it this year.
- shekkie


Just don't waive him and have him get picked up by a divisional rival. Last thing I want is for him to injure our players...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 11:14 PM ET
Just don't waive him and have him get picked up by a divisional rival. Last thing I want is for him to injure our players...
- phillydentist


Harry Z is Waiver exempt.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 11:14 PM ET
Not this year. Hartnell's obviously washed up. Trade him for Shattenkirk
- Jsaquella


Those 16 PP goals last Season were a fluke.
shekkie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Perkasie, PA
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 3 @ 11:14 PM ET
Just don't waive him and have him get picked up by a divisional rival. Last thing I want is for him to injure our players...
- phillydentist



True enough.

The best/most dangerous players we play are former Flyers.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 3 @ 11:15 PM ET
amazing yet completely predictable that Z gets 4, while Alfie gets nothing for a double xcheck to the head. have no problem with Z suspension, but think it's at least 1 game too many. zero consistency from the league AS USUAL. just brutal. isn't there some kind of new appeal process in place? can you appeal a non-suspension?
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Mar 3 @ 11:17 PM ET
True enough.

The best/most dangerous players we play are former Flyers.

- shekkie


They always seem to become better after they leave Philly... Sharp, Seidenberg, Versteeg,...
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Mar 3 @ 11:18 PM ET
amazing yet completely predictable that Z gets 4, while Alfie gets nothing for a double xcheck to the head. have no problem with Z suspension, but think it's at least 1 game too many. zero consistency from the league AS USUAL. just brutal. isn't there some kind of new appeal process in place? can you appeal a non-suspension?
- hammarby31


Shanahan was a star player. He will be lenient on star players. Making examples of scrubs and being inconsistent is not a good way to enforce the rules.
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Mar 3 @ 11:26 PM ET
Harry Z is Waiver exempt.
- MJL


Says you. How is he different from Tom Sestito? Same age and same number of seasons played on the Flyers.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 3 @ 11:27 PM ET
Hartnell, Cote's wife, free cheesesteaks for the year (choice between Jim's, Pat's, or Geno's), a free pass for everything inside the Reading Terminal Market, and a really, really nice pen with an engravment of choice for Pietrangelo.

GID HOMGOBBLER

- Giroux_Is_God

hmmm, I'd do that
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 3 @ 11:29 PM ET
amazing yet completely predictable that Z gets 4, while Alfie gets nothing for a double xcheck to the head. have no problem with Z suspension, but think it's at least 1 game too many. zero consistency from the league AS USUAL. just brutal. isn't there some kind of new appeal process in place? can you appeal a non-suspension?
- hammarby31

Alfie was just being a good captain there according to Don Cherry
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 11:32 PM ET
amazing yet completely predictable that Z gets 4, while Alfie gets nothing for a double xcheck to the head. have no problem with Z suspension, but think it's at least 1 game too many. zero consistency from the league AS USUAL. just brutal. isn't there some kind of new appeal process in place? can you appeal a non-suspension?
- hammarby31


Consistency remains a huge issue for the NHL in doling out justice.

I have no issue with the length of Zolnierczyk's suspension. I will have an issue if the next guy that laves his feet and lands a head shot gets off with a fine or one game.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 11:33 PM ET
Says you. How is he different from Tom Sestito? Same age and same number of seasons played on the Flyers.
- phillydentist


Zolnierczyk is on his entry level contract, Sestito is not. Under the new CBA that is the criteria.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 11:37 PM ET
Shanahan was a star player. He will be lenient on star players. Making examples of scrubs and being inconsistent is not a good way to enforce the rules.
- phillydentist


Colin Campbell was a plugger. They will be lenient on star players because the owners sell a big name player to the fans.

You'll get more people to see Evgeni Malkin and James Neal than you will for Dustin Jeffrey and Brandon Sutter
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 11:51 PM ET
Says you. How is he different from Tom Sestito? Same age and same number of seasons played on the Flyers.
- phillydentist


That's right, says me. I can make that determination because I know the Waiver rules.

He can play 17 more NHL games, or if he goes back down, until next Season until his Waiver exemption runs out.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 12:02 AM ET
That's right, says me. I can make that determination because I know the Waiver rules.

He can play 17 more NHL games, or if he goes back down, until next Season until his Waiver exemption runs out.

- MJL


That's right, he's not on his ELC, his original deal was only one year...
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Mar 4 @ 12:03 AM ET
Zolnierczyk is on his entry level contract, Sestito is not. Under the new CBA that is the criteria.
- Jsaquella


Has he been sent down previously this season?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 4 @ 12:06 AM ET
Four games for Harry Z, huh? Harsh, but earned.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 4 @ 12:12 AM ET
Colin Campbell was a plugger. They will be lenient on star players because the owners sell a big name player to the fans.

You'll get more people to see Evgeni Malkin and James Neal than you will for Dustin Jeffrey and Brandon Sutter

- Jsaquella

there are so many sutter relatives this is actually false
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 12:13 AM ET
Has he been sent down previously this season?
- phillydentist


That doesn't matter. There are games played criteria that determine whether or not a player is waiver exempt or not. Here's a good link to the rules:

http://www.capgeek.com/fa...w-do-regular-waivers-work

In the case of Zlonierczyk, he is less than 2 years from signing his original NHL contract and has played fewer than 60 NHL games.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 12:13 AM ET
there are so many sutter relatives this is actually false
- isaiah520


I'd pay more to see Neal and Malkin than any Sutter relative...even Brent
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 4 @ 2:42 AM ET
That's right, says me. I can make that determination because I know the Waiver rules.

He can play 17 more NHL games, or if he goes back down, until next Season until his Waiver exemption runs out.

- MJL


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