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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 3 @ 12:44 PM ET
"Injured" players cannot be waived?
- phillydentist

That's my understanding. It's to ensure that players who are eligible for waivers will go to teams healthy as all waived players have to pass physicals.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 3 @ 12:46 PM ET
I had my doubts when the trade was made, but when MacKenzie tweeted that Gagne was in the best shape he'd been in in a long time, I perked up.

And I'm very happy with his performance.

- tangent_man

TMI on what gets you perked Tangent!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 3 @ 12:48 PM ET
Carcillo playing on a line with Hossa and Toews.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 12:48 PM ET
"Injured" players cannot be waived?
- phillydentist


No they can not.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 3 @ 12:48 PM ET
TMI on what gets you perked Tangent!
- FlyersGrace


Well, it's in your head now. Enjoy.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 3 @ 12:49 PM ET
I was bemoaning the fact that you and your Penguins card got past the bouncer.
- tangent_man



Oh.

I have a VIP card not a Penguins card, I can get in any blog without lineups. I might be here more often because I can't stand the Pens blog anymore.

Lucky you.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 3 @ 12:49 PM ET
Carcillo playing on a line with Hossa and Toews.
- PLindbergh31


I remember when we traded Upshall for him. Homer sold that "garbage" that Philadelphia would love his game.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 12:50 PM ET
That's my understanding. It's to ensure that players who are eligible for waivers will go to teams healthy as all waived players have to pass physicals.
- FlyersGrace


You are correct. If a player is not cleared to play, he can not be waived. Injured players can be traded, so long as the injuries are disclosed and accepted by the team acquiring the player.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 12:51 PM ET
Oh.

I have a VIP card not a Penguins card, I can get in any blog without lineups. I might be here more often because I can't stand the Pens blog anymore.

Lucky you.

- canadianpenfan


Somebody must love us....too bad it's not a kind and forgiving God
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 3 @ 12:51 PM ET
Oh.

I have a VIP card not a Penguins card, I can get in any blog without lineups. I might be here more often because I can't stand the Pens blog anymore.

Lucky you.

- canadianpenfan


They're becoming quite the group of Debbie Downer's, aren't they? Although, why you would subject yourself to a bigger group of them instead is rather mind boggling.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 3 @ 12:51 PM ET
I'll state it again, Knuble does not have a problem keeping up with the play. He skates well enough to play in the NHL. The Coach may have very well wanted more speed and energy in the lineup. But that does not mean that Knuble can't keep up with the play.
- MJL


We disagree. Knuble is no longer a capable NHL player IMO
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Mar 3 @ 12:52 PM ET
Carcillo playing on a line with Hossa and Toews.
- PLindbergh31


The Hawks record



.......oh wait, now its not funny anymore
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 3 @ 12:52 PM ET
Man Bill if we had Bryzgalov years ago we would have won the cup
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 3 @ 12:52 PM ET
You are correct. If a player is not cleared to play, he can not be waived. Injured players can be traded, so long as the injuries are disclosed and accepted by the team acquiring the player.
- Jsaquella



I'm surprised Shelley didn't all of a sudden get healthy just so he could be waived. Is there a rule about games played after injury before you can become waiver eligible?
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Mar 3 @ 12:52 PM ET
We disagree. Knuble is no longer a capable NHL player IMO
- Just5


Thats the cool thing about facts, even if you disagree with them, their still true.

So seeing as how Knuble is a rostered NHL player right now, he is clearly a capable NHL player regardless of anyones opinion.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 3 @ 12:52 PM ET
I'll state it again, Knuble does not have a problem keeping up with the play. He skates well enough to play in the NHL. The Coach may have very well wanted more speed and energy in the lineup. But that does not mean that Knuble can't keep up with the play.
- MJL

Other then a couple of bad penalties especially the ones in the offensive zone Knuble has been solid.

The one thing I'd say with playing Wellwood or Z when he is done serving time,
is that these guys are still raw and very much work in progress.

They could have given up on Rinaldo last year as a reckless player but they gave him a chance and he has really improved.

Z and Wellwood could turn out similar but they need time.
With Knuble, you know what you have.
I'm not opposed to playing Knuble especially with a playoff spot very much up in the air.

Just saying I think it's too soon to write off Harry Z and Wellwood.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Mar 3 @ 12:53 PM ET
Man Bill if we had Bryzgalov years ago we would have won the cup
- 2Real


If we would have had two other defensemen other than Krajiceck and Bartulis we would have won the cup
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 3 @ 12:53 PM ET
They're becoming quite the group of Debbie Downer's, aren't they? Although, why you would subject yourself to a bigger group of them instead is rather mind boggling.
- tangent_man





On one side of the fence it's annoying, on the other it's comical.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 12:54 PM ET
They're becoming quite the group of Debbie Downer's, aren't they? Although, why you would subject yourself to a bigger group of them instead is rather mind boggling.
- tangent_man


Is it that bad if you're not a fan of the team that is causing the fan version of Jonestown?

I think schadenfreude alone makes it fun for him when the Flyers have a rough go
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 3 @ 12:57 PM ET
Is it that bad if you're not a fan of the team that is causing the fan version of Jonestown?

I think schadenfreude alone makes it fun for him when the Flyers have a rough go

- Jsaquella


Talk about a group drinking the Kool-Aid.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 3 @ 12:58 PM ET


On one side of the fence it's annoying, on the other it's comical.

- canadianpenfan


So that's why FlyerGuy is spending so much time over there...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 12:58 PM ET
We disagree. Knuble is no longer a capable NHL player IMO
- Just5


Knuble is still a capable NHL player. My issue is the logic behind using a 40 year old player on the PP and PK and relying on him as heavily as Laviolette was.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 1:00 PM ET
Oh.

I have a VIP card not a Penguins card, I can get in any blog without lineups. I might be here more often because I can't stand the Pens blog anymore.

Lucky you.

- canadianpenfan


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 1:00 PM ET
Talk about a group drinking the Kool-Aid.
- PLindbergh31


I go Olde School
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 3 @ 1:01 PM ET
So that's why FlyerGuy is spending so much time over there...
- tangent_man



He's one of the few bright spots. How sad is that?
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