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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 4 @ 11:03 AM ET
It doesn't speak well to Captain Clode that you've mistaken his shot for Carle's
- BulliesPhan87

THE HORROR!
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 4 @ 11:03 AM ET
Not sure what has been so impressive about their recent stretch of games. Winnipeg self destructed with penalties, and the Flyers PP was good and won the game. They got whooped by Toronto. Beat a disinterested Washington team. And the Flyers were lousy against Ottawa. came out slow again, played lousy in their own end. If the Flyers were playing a more talented team in that game, it would've been over in the first period.
This team needs a lot of work in a lot of areas.

- MJL


At least Bryz seems to be out of his funk. But I agree, that there's still a long way to go before they're out of the woods. This next stretch of games will be very telling. Rangers, Pens, Bruins, etc. This might be the defining moment of the season.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 11:04 AM ET
ditto, but in youth hockey. drilled a guy right under his chin with my blocker in a bench brawl. we were playing staten island...bunch of dirty (frank)s. just like the kids from jersey city, and ironbound (newark).
- hammarby31

You can add Harrisburg to that list.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 4 @ 11:05 AM ET
You can add Harrisburg to that list.
- mayorofangrytown


never played them. i don't know what it is about the kids from north jersey. and their parents were worse.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 4 @ 11:05 AM ET
Sorry, MJL.

I was speaking of the win column. I stated somewhere in this thread that I expected more downs then ups from the Flyers this season. Soooo, the impressed part is the fact that they are winning more then they are losing.

I know they have been sloppy. I know they have been ugly at times. John also pointed out how they can't seem to put a team away, I totally agree.

Nowhere did I say I am impressed with there overall play or that they don't need work.

- ggunky



I think the bottom line is that although their record is improved. They're a talented team who is getting by on their offensive talent. But they simply are a very average team at best. Hopefully with some practice time it will improve. But they aren't very good right now.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 4 @ 11:07 AM ET
i agree. while it's been effective in spurts, it's predictable, and they still overplay their hand. keep it simple, but get guys moving - that's what opens up seams in the pk unit - and get the gddamn puck to the net. too much perimeter play from the half-wall to the point.
- hammarby31


That 5 on 3 the other day was frustrating to watch. They spent (wasted) a lot of time passing the puck looking for the perfect play. With Hartnell and/or Simmonds in the crease area, the plan should be simple...pass or skate the puck towards the middle to collapse the triangle, dish to the half wall or point, look to shoot and crash the net or let one of the big guys clean up the garbage. It doesn't have to be a tic-tac-toe play. Garbage goals count the same as highlight reel goals.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 4 @ 11:09 AM ET
Am I the only one who thinks if we get 3 points this week that would be ok....obviously want more but 1-1-1 would ok
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 11:10 AM ET
never played them. i don't know what it is about the kids from north jersey. and their parents were worse.
- hammarby31

We don't go up there.

We had to cancel two games against Harrisburg this season. It's one thing to have a kid or two running around, it's another thing to have 6 or 7.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 4 @ 11:10 AM ET
That 5 on 3 the other day was frustrating to watch. They spent (wasted) a lot of time passing the puck looking for the perfect play. With Hartnell and/or Simmonds in the crease area, the plan should be simple...pass or skate the puck towards the middle to collapse the triangle, dish to the half wall or point, look to shoot and crash the net or let one of the big guys clean up the garbage. It doesn't have to be a tic-tac-toe play. Garbage goals count the same as highlight reel goals.
- Lexington Flyer


agreed. too much waiting. there's tons of room out there. use the ice and get it to the net. as you say, it doesn't have to be a bang-bang play. garbage is equal to pretty in terms of the score board.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 4 @ 11:11 AM ET
That 5 on 3 the other day was frustrating to watch. They spent (wasted) a lot of time passing the puck looking for the perfect play. With Hartnell and/or Simmonds in the crease area, the plan should be simple...pass or skate the puck towards the middle to collapse the triangle, dish to the half wall or point, look to shoot and crash the net or let one of the big guys clean up the garbage. It doesn't have to be a tic-tac-toe play. Garbage goals count the same as highlight reel goals.
- Lexington Flyer


Yup garbage goals win games all the time. They need to learn that
jmatchett
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 01.13.2008

Mar 4 @ 11:12 AM ET
Am I the only one who thinks if we get 3 points this week that would be ok....obviously want more but 1-1-1 would ok
- nonpoint22


Depends. If you're okay with them being average, then that's fine. In they want to be considered any sort of threat, I'd want at least 4 points.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 4 @ 11:13 AM ET
We don't go up there.

We had to cancel two games against Harrisburg this season. It's one thing to have a kid or two running around, it's another thing to have 6 or 7.

- mayorofangrytown



that was like playing jersey city every time. we called them the calamari brothers. they were all grown men with beards at age 14. it was a joy to skate there, especially, on frigid sunday mornings at 7 am on an outdoor rink with no lines on the ice, chain link fence for glass, and trailers for locker rooms. good times.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 4 @ 11:14 AM ET
I think the bottom line is that although their record is improved. They're a talented team who is getting by on their offensive talent. But they simply are a very average team at best. Hopefully with some practice time it will improve. But they aren't very good right now.
- MJL



Correction ... they are a offensively talented team getting by on the play of Bryzgalov.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 4 @ 11:14 AM ET
Had a giveaway last night that directly led to the Flames 1st goal
- bradleyc4



Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 4 @ 11:15 AM ET
Queue up the pitbull GIF!


(someone, I don't have it)

- ggunky




i got you




nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 4 @ 11:17 AM ET
Depends. If you're okay with them being average, then that's fine. In they want to be considered any sort of threat, I'd want at least 4 points.
- jmatchett


I want four as well but I still think they are average team, but Baby steps
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 4 @ 11:18 AM ET
I think the bottom line is that although their record is improved. They're a talented team who is getting by on their offensive talent. But they simply are a very average team at best. Hopefully with some practice time it will improve. But they aren't very good right now.
- MJL


I think they have a lot of talent but maybe not the right mix of guys, which has been said on here before and which might be what you're saying.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:19 AM ET
Am I the only one who thinks if we get 3 points this week that would be ok....obviously want more but 1-1-1 would ok
- nonpoint22


As long as they play with some consistency, I think the points will be there.

I actually think they can beat both Pittsburgh and NYR this week. That's ALWAYS a good week in my book.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 4 @ 11:21 AM ET
As long as they play with some consistency, I think the points will be there.

I actually think they can beat both Pittsburgh and NYR this week. That's ALWAYS a good week in my book.

- johndewar


Or the worst if they lose.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 4 @ 11:22 AM ET
As long as they play with some consistency, I think the points will be there.

I actually think they can beat both Pittsburgh and NYR this week. That's ALWAYS a good week in my book.

- johndewar


I think the rough part is I just looked at there schedule. At the end of the month, they have a week of @Pit,NYR,NYI,BOS....so they get those three in one week again just a few weeks down the line that is rough for a team trying to turn its season around
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:22 AM ET
THE HORROR!
- FlyersGrace

But f'real, it doesn't matter how good your shot is, if you're telegraphing it you're only going to find the defender's legs. I get that they're trying to open up shooting lanes, but when it's just the same two guys giving each other the puck you may as well be standing still.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:23 AM ET
Or the worst if they lose.
- NickTheKid87


Oh, if they lose both of those games, you can probably see the "Fire Lavvy" bandwagon starting to leave the parking lot.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 4 @ 11:24 AM ET
She actually was born in Somers Point, but was raised in Pittsburgh where her family's from. She's been a Pens/Steelers fan for life, so at least she isn't a front-runner who only started caring recently. At least she cheers for the Flyers at every other game, and I've turned her into a Phillies fan.
- jmatchett


Well done sir. A lot of pens fans from my neck of the woods are recent fans since Cindy came along. He's a maritimer so lots of people identify with him. I forced my gf to be a flyers fan, but she came up with the idea of naming our black lab puppy Roux (or Roux dogg) lol. So I'd say she's ok with it!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:26 AM ET
I think the rough part is I just looked at there schedule. At the end of the month, they have a week of @Pit,NYR,NYI,BOS....so they get those three in one week again just a few weeks down the line that is rough for a team trying to turn its season around
- nonpoint22


Those teams have all been dealing with their own issues.

Boston has played 4 fewer games than the Flyers. Enjoy your condensed schedule, Bruins!

And the Rangers and Pittsburgh have had their own problems.

If the Flyers win 2 out of 3 this week, I'd be pretty happy with that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 4 @ 11:26 AM ET
I think they have a lot of talent but maybe not the right mix of guys, which has been said on here before and which might be what you're saying.
- NickTheKid87



I think there are some holes in their lineup that everyone is aware of. But the Coach and the players can't do anything about that. Those needs are what would change the team from being a solid playoff team, to a true contender. But those needs aren't the reason why this team is very average right now in my opinion. They have the talent to be much better. Some of it is growing pains. But most of it is the teams lack of an overall game and a lack of attention to detail.
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