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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:53 AM ET
yes

and rocky mtn bill, who has disappeared

- Marc D

He got mad because we counted PIMs in our fantasy league.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 5 @ 11:53 AM ET
in reality phoenix won't trade oel

oel is the guy who makes trading yandle possible

and couts for yandle is dumb, and they'd probably want couts + for yandle anyway

sigh
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:54 AM ET
I don't meet with people who violate the hockeybuzz code of conduct, so I am afraid you will never get that chance.

Edit: already met you, forgot

- feelingkettle

I'm forgettable.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 5 @ 11:54 AM ET
He got mad because we counted PIMs in our fantasy league.
- mayorofangrytown

really?

why would penalty minutes count anyway?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 5 @ 11:54 AM ET
He got mad because we counted PIMs in our fantasy league.
- mayorofangrytown



phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Mar 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
What's the maximum term and cap hit for an RFA offer sheet under the new CBA?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
In Principle too!

Holmgren is a champ at drafting good forwards and flipping them for more.

Flyers have no track record with doing the same with dmen.

- phillydentist


The way I see it, what's the difference between drafting 2 good forwards and trading 1 for a good dman and drafting 1 good forward and 1 good dman? Obviously, this is a very basic level but you get the picture.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
This is a scary reality.

And it has cost the Flyers a ton of money if you think about it, in terms of free agency dollars. A good businessman (and we can all agree Ed Snider is a good businessman) would put resources into developing good defensemen to keep these costs down.

- johndewar


The problem in this regard is simple. To develop defensemen, patience is required. The Flyers lack this, especially with higher draft picks. They have always been a team that builds the defense with an eye towards loading up on known quantities than unknowns.

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:56 AM ET
oh my


i've met him as well

- Don'tForgetTocchet

They could be brothers.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:56 AM ET
What's the maximum term and cap hit for an RFA offer sheet under the new CBA?
- phillydentist


8 years is the maximum length, 10% of the cap remains the maximum salary. There isn't any strict guideline on maximum cap hit, though
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:56 AM ET
really?

why would penalty minutes count anyway?

- Marc D

Tradition/reason to draft a goon.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:57 AM ET
I'm forgettable.
- mayorofangrytown


In what universe are YOU forgettable?

You're almost as Legendary as Pitbull
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 5 @ 11:57 AM ET

- JoeRussomanno

He's no good to me dead.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:59 AM ET
The problem in this regard is simple. To develop defensemen, patience is required. The Flyers lack this, especially with higher draft picks. They have always been a team that builds the defense with an eye towards loading up on known quantities than unknowns.
- Jsaquella


It's hard to measure how well they do drafting defensemen too because they never do in the 1st round. Recently, they've drafted Pitkanen and Sbisa in the 1st round and both guys were two of the better dman drafted around them so there's that. Obviously, both guys left here on different terms.
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Mar 5 @ 12:00 PM ET
The problem in this regard is simple. To develop defensemen, patience is required. The Flyers lack this, especially with higher draft picks. They have always been a team that builds the defense with an eye towards loading up on known quantities than unknowns.
- Jsaquella


It's not just a lack of patience though. If it were, we would see some Flyers drafted dmen blossom into #1D's on other teams. There seems to be some fundamental flaw in the scouting of young dmen in the organization.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 5 @ 12:00 PM ET

- JoeRussomanno


What's the compensation for the Han Solo offer sheet?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 5 @ 12:03 PM ET
He's no good to me dead.
- BulliesPhan87

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 5 @ 12:03 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
Waivers: Boychuk awarded to NSH from PIT. Pit places Kostopoulos and Wsh places Hamrlik on Waivers.
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Mar 5 @ 12:03 PM ET
8 years is the maximum length, 10% of the cap remains the maximum salary. There isn't any strict guideline on maximum cap hit, though
- Jsaquella


So what is the max offer Holmgren can throw at OEL hypothetically this summer?

8 x 6.4M?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 5 @ 12:05 PM ET
So what is the max offer Holmgren can throw at OEL hypothetically this summer?

8 x 6.4M?

- phillydentist


I would do it....whats the worst that can happen...Bettman gets his panties in a bunch....FU bettman.

Lol i dont think they would match.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 5 @ 12:08 PM ET
What's the compensation for the Han Solo offer sheet?
- NickTheKid87

I think leia negotiated jabba down to 35,000. Cheap by today's standards but it was the early 80's.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 5 @ 12:10 PM ET
I think leia negotiated jabba down to 35,000. Cheap by today's standards but it was the early 80's.
- JoeRussomanno


And Empire fans still think there's a chance they're getting Solo this offseason smh
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Mar 5 @ 12:10 PM ET

With Gus playing like he has since his return, Meszaros threatening to play soon and Kimmo signed for at least one more year, I do not think now is the time to panic and trade Coots, B. Schenn, Read or any of our forward youth.

If it's a good deal fine. But once Mes comes back our D lineup looks like one of the better ones in the league. We don't have the room for a D stud, and Gus has more than earned his ice time.


BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 5 @ 12:11 PM ET
And Empire fans still think there's a chance they're getting Solo this offseason smh
- NickTheKid87

Boba Fett was set to hit free agency, until his tragic career ending... um, injury. He would've gotten a boatload.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 5 @ 12:11 PM ET
With Gus playing like he has since his return, Meszaros threatening to play soon and Kimmo signed for at least one more year, I do not think now is the time to panic and trade Coots, B. Schenn, Read or any of our forward youth.

If it's a good deal fine. But once Mes comes back our D lineup looks like one of the better ones in the league. We don't have the room for a D stud, and Gus has more than earned his ice time.

- flyler


I think it's more about replacing Timonen after next year than anything else.
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