At this point in his career it amazes me that he is that bad when going to the poke check. He misses badly and looks horrendous doing it. Bryz has been solid for most of the season but his poke check skills are suspect at best.
- stveshdy

He's not very good at poke checks. Not sure if that is a skill you can improve upon. But he has to stop trying it, and focusing on being in position to make the save instead of feebly attempting a poke check.

Yes. This Mclean is a solid coach. Their injuries have been worse than the Flyers as hard as it is to believe. Their Norris D-man, best forward, and a G who was playing as the best in the NHL. They have stayed competitive. Kudos to their coaching staff.
- PLindbergh31

As good a job as Ottawa's staff has done, there's a few teams that overcame the "talent gap" and did well. The Flyers haven't.

Thank God we lost so each of us can concoct the best remedy to make us undefeated the rest of the season. This thread is gonna get more page hits than after the last two wins - combined.

Top candidates for this season for guys being lazy and downright stupid?

Coburn, Talbot, Fedetenko, Briere.

Kimmo has been pretty bad, and Schenn/Voracek were horrific to start the season.

Most of the team to be honest expect a few guys.
- flyer_nutter

Timonen's play has been disheartening. He's got the injury he's trying to play through, but I'm not very optimistic of him being any where near a top pairing guy.

I kind of wish the Flyers didn't sign him for next year.

there wasn't enough pitbull tonight.

Timonen's play has been disheartening. He's got the injury he's trying to play through, but I'm not very optimistic of him being any where near a top pairing guy.

I kind of wish the Flyers didn't sign him for next year.
- PLindbergh31

Flyers management makes all the right moves. Everything will be fine.

Top candidates for this season for guys being lazy and downright stupid?

Coburn, Talbot, Fedetenko, Briere.

Kimmo has been pretty bad, and Schenn/Voracek were horrific to start the season.

Most of the team to be honest expect a few guys.
- flyer_nutter

So if most of the team doesn't work hard, how are they expected to be any better next year when the team will be pretty much the same as it is now?

there wasn't enough pitbull tonight.
- KGBflyers10

$1 specials

Flyers management makes all the right moves. Everything will be fine.
- stveshdy

Flyers fans forget that he's probably still not 100% after being injured. Everything in here will be S.S.D.D.

Flyers fans forget that he's probably still not 100% after being injured. Everything in here will be S.S.D.D.
- Flyskippy

Lets be honest when will Timonen every be 100% healthy again?

As good a job as Ottawa's staff has done, there's a few teams that overcame the "talent gap" and did well. The Flyers haven't.
- Jsaquella

Hard to win when lacking talent. Flyers have talent, their defense core isn't very good, but it could be overcome with solid coaching, attention to detail, and discipline.

If they have to play the next two games with Gervais, Gustafsson, and Lilja/Foster I can't see things going well.

Flyers management makes all the right moves. Everything will be fine.
- stveshdy

Let's go Flyers.

Hard to win when lacking talent. Flyers have talent, their defense core isn't very good, but it could be overcome with solid coaching, attention to detail, and discipline.

If they have to play the next two games with Gervais, Gustafsson, and Lilja/Foster I can't see things going well.
- PLindbergh31

Grossmann out with hip flexor (who knows how long). Mez coming back soon which should help.

I think Schenn and Grossmann have been their best two defenseman this year.

Thank God we lost so each of us can concoct the best remedy to make us undefeated the rest of the season. This thread is gonna get more page hits than after the last two wins - combined.
- Flyskippy

Always does. First you get the sheer, out and out trolls, then the "I told ya so" clowns that multiply after a loss. Then there's the sarcastic ones that think any kind of optimism is being a Kool-Aid drinker.

Whole lot of folks that make Lindsay Lohan look stable

Lets be honest when will Timonen every be 100% healthy again?
- stveshdy

I dunno. Let's just take the safe bet and be pessimistic. We have a 1 in 30 chance of winning the Cup any year. Being optimistic is ballsy.

Let's go Flyers.
- PLindbergh31

Lets go Flyers. Be patient and keep waiting. This cup drought will eventually end at some point.

Always does. First you get the sheer, out and out trolls, then the "I told ya so" clowns that multiply after a loss. Then there's the sarcastic ones that think any kind of optimism is being a Kool-Aid drinker.

Whole lot of folks that make Lindsay Lohan look stable
- Jsaquella

Pfft. I drink instant iced tea. My wife drinks the Kool-Aid.

Lets go Flyers. Be patient and keep waiting. This cup drought will eventually end at some point.
- stveshdy

Why bother being a fan if all you're gonna do is whine and moan? I am a fan of this team, not its record.

Lets go Flyers. Be patient and keep waiting. This cup drought will eventually end at some point.
- stveshdy

Yup. My grandchildren will be all the better for it.

I dunno. Let's just take the safe bet and be pessimistic. We have a 1 in 30 chance of winning the Cup any year. Being optimistic is ballsy.
- Flyskippy

Not sure what that has to do with Timonen ever being 100% healthy.

Agreed. Guys like Fedetenko and Knuble would be valets parking cars at the United Center.

Where did this kid Saad come from? The Shaw kid is a stud, and they are playing without Dave Bolland, who outside of Toews is their best all around forward. They are loaded.
- PLindbergh31

hossa plays a total game

Not sure what that has to do with Timonen ever being 100% healthy.
- stveshdy

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing, Reg...

Hard to win when lacking talent. Flyers have talent, their defense core isn't very good, but it could be overcome with solid coaching, attention to detail, and discipline.

If they have to play the next two games with Gervais, Gustafsson, and Lilja/Foster I can't see things going well.
- PLindbergh31

It's really hard to win when you keep making the same dumb mistakes over and over again.

Look at line changes tonight. They made at least 4 questionable or bad ones tonight. One was made by a veteran pair-Timonen & Coburn.

The key is how do you correct it? I'm not sure Laviolette has the answers. That said, I'm also not sure that Paddock or Murray do, either. We all know the normal steps-reducing ice time, bag skates, etc, etc. I don't know what will work, either.

i just know what has been tried to this point hasn't been good enough

Why bother being a fan if all you're gonna do is whine and moan? I am a fan of this team, not its record.
- Flyskippy

Sounds good.

Yup. My grandchildren will be all the better for it.
- PLindbergh31

Didn't know you were that old. Explains the crankiness.