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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 6 @ 10:30 PM ET
I hate the Blackhawks. I hate how their goalies are terrible but they still win. I hate how they ripped us off in the Sharp trade. I hate Carcillo. I hate the stupid "Q-stache". I hate 2010. I hate how the Flyers should have Kane.

I love their jerseys though.

(frank) them.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 6 @ 10:30 PM ET
I'm thinking Sharp scores the gwg when they break the Flyers record.
- PLindbergh31


Yeah, with the assist from Carcillo.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 6 @ 10:31 PM ET
The Blackhawks will never, ever lose this season, but their drummer will die because they obviously made a deal with the devil
- Jsaquella


No worries. Championships aren't won in March.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 6 @ 10:31 PM ET
I'm thinking Sharp scores the gwg when they break the Flyers record.
- PLindbergh31


no no. emery will get a shutout in a 0-0 game. THEN sharp will score in the SO for the win to break the record. they'll win with no goals technically being scored.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 6 @ 10:31 PM ET
Yeah, with the assist from Carcillo.
- Jsaquella


a 1-0 Emery shutout.

He stopped 5 odd man rushes in that game.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 6 @ 10:32 PM ET
I hate the Blackhawks. I hate how their goalies are terrible but they still win. I hate how they ripped us off in the Sharp trade. I hate Carcillo. I hate the stupid "Q-stache". I hate 2010. I hate how the Flyers should have Kane.

I love their jerseys though.

(frank) them.

- Giroux_Is_God


They have one of the best logos in sports.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 6 @ 10:32 PM ET
I hate the Blackhawks. I hate how their goalies are terrible but they still win. I hate how they ripped us off in the Sharp trade. I hate Carcillo. I hate the stupid "Q-stache". I hate 2010. I hate how the Flyers should have Kane.

I love their jerseys though.

(frank) them.

- Giroux_Is_God


get out of my head.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 6 @ 10:32 PM ET
no no. emery will get a shutout in a 0-0 game. THEN sharp will score in the SO for the win to break the record. they'll win with no goals technically being scored.
- hammarby31


canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 6 @ 10:32 PM ET

- Flyskippy



No he's a Ferrari, Pierre said so.



hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 6 @ 10:35 PM ET

- PLindbergh31


it's funny because it's true.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 6 @ 10:35 PM ET
I'm hoping for a Montreal/SJ SCF so I can watch it without being enraged by who wins.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 6 @ 10:35 PM ET
Chicago does play an aggressive forecheck game, but the difference is that I see the third man staying a little further back and the forwards do NOT overstay their welcome in the offensive zone. They always have at least one forward back far enough on the defensive side when possession is gained by the other team.

Their forwards aren't chasing the puck out of their offensive zone like the Flyers always seem to be doing.

- MBFlyerfan


Here's the big difference as I see it. A team like Chicago, reads and reacts. They are aggressive on the puck and attack on the fore check when it is there. And if they can't get in on the puck they regroup and come at you with secondary pressure at 2/3rds ice, or with neutral zone pressure. They get into the passing lanes and cut the play off. Good teams pressure the puck all over the ice and make you fight for every inch. There are layers to a quality team's pressure and checking. They put themselves consistently on the right side of the puck. And they support the puck and their teammates all over the ice.
With the Flyers it's 2 men in regardless hard, with F3 in an equally aggressive posture. One pass beats them all. Such as a simple chip off the wall by Girardi sets Nash free. All 3 forwards were at or below the puck on the offensive side on the play.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 6 @ 10:35 PM ET
No he's a Ferrari, Pierre said so.




- canadianpenfan


Penal Pierre?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 6 @ 10:36 PM ET
Precisely, that's an aggressive forechecking, yet it's smart and responsible. You don't forego the defense for offense. Or vise versa.
- GirouxForTheShow



PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 6 @ 10:37 PM ET
it's funny because it's true.
- hammarby31


Only 6 games away from breaking the record. I don't think it's technically breaking it because there are different rules now, never in a million years did I think that record would even come close to being broken, I would be shocked now if they don't break it.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 6 @ 10:37 PM ET
I'm hoping for a Montreal/SJ SCF so I can watch it without being enraged by who wins.
- PLindbergh31


i guess i could live with that. as long as ny, nj, boston, or pittsburgh don't end up in the finals. la or chicago from the west.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 6 @ 10:37 PM ET
I'm hoping for a Montreal/SJ SCF so I can watch it without being enraged by who wins.
- PLindbergh31


Ray Emery 10-0-0 this year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 6 @ 10:37 PM ET
2 points are 2 points. No such things as style points.
- PLindbergh31


Not true when you're building a team and developing players for the future. There is a big picture. You have to look at how you play. No Coach in the World would think that way.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 6 @ 10:37 PM ET
get out of my head.
- hammarby31

What can I say hammar...I'm just a spokesperson for others
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 6 @ 10:38 PM ET
i guess i could live with that. as long as ny, nj, boston, or pittsburgh don't end up in the finals. la or chicago from the west.
- hammarby31


The odds of none of those 6 making it, are virtually zero.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 6 @ 10:39 PM ET
Ray Emery 10-0-0 this year.
- stveshdy


He was crippled 3 years ago, go figure.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 6 @ 10:39 PM ET
Only 6 games away from breaking the record. I don't think it's technically breaking it because there are different rules now, never in a million years did I think that record would even come close to being broken, I would be shocked now if they don't break it.
- PLindbergh31


Their next six games are against garbage teams. They have a legit shot at breaking this record.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 6 @ 10:40 PM ET
Only 6 games away from breaking the record. I don't think it's technically breaking it because there are different rules now, never in a million years did I think that record would even come close to being broken, I would be shocked now if they don't break it.
- PLindbergh31


i don't understand how they can count the games from last season. makes absolutely zero sense, ESPECIALLY since this season started in january, and there are only intraconference games. this has nothing to do with the record being owned by the flyers either.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 6 @ 10:40 PM ET
He was crippled 3 years ago, go figure.
- PLindbergh31


Heard rumors that he might never be able to play again. This is two years in a row where he's been very solid.

Sign him in the offseason.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 6 @ 10:40 PM ET
Here's the big difference as I see it. A team like Chicago, reads and reacts. They are aggressive on the puck and attack on the fore check when it is there. And if they can't get in on the puck they regroup and come at you with secondary pressure at 2/3rds ice, or with neutral zone pressure. They get into the passing lanes and cut the play off. Good teams pressure the puck all over the ice and make you fight for every inch. There are layers to a quality team's pressure and checking. They put themselves consistently on the right side of the puck. And they support the puck and their teammates all over the ice.
With the Flyers it's 2 men in regardless hard, with F3 in an equally aggressive posture. One pass beats them all. Such as a simple chip off the wall by Girardi sets Nash free. All 3 forwards were at or below the puck on the offensive side on the play.

- MJL


I can agree with this. I'd prefer an aggressive style team. You push the envelope before the envelope pushes you. But there should be/is a point where hockey sense and smart risk taking should come into play. When to have that F3 aggressive and when to have him fall back. When to pressure in the neutral zone, and when to recognize the counter attack speed of the other team and fall back. And the line changes good god

This team is full of stupid. And lately I've been looking to Lava. The only coach he out coaches is Bylsma. Which is good for about 6 wins in a regular season.
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