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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 8 @ 12:38 PM ET
Voracek has been better than Bryz.
- Feanor

Perhaps, but he had a slow start. Bryz's start was hotter than Crims' crush on Kate Upton.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:39 PM ET
Voracek has been better than Bryz.
- Feanor



I'm okay with that. But Bryzgalov is still right up there isn't he? So the point is the same.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:39 PM ET
There is zero substantial evidence to support that Meszaros is all about money andlacks character.
- MJL

Where did that come from?

The guy busts his chops and gets back early from an achilles injury. That alone shows he is not just about money. It screams positive character too.

Weird statement.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:40 PM ET
Where did that come from?

The guy busts his chops and gets back early from an achilles injury. That alone shows he is not just about money. It screams positive character too.

Weird statement.

- Marc D


We are all perplexed. The guy who said that hasn't been back today either.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:40 PM ET
I'm a mutt. I get to claim 15 or so ethnicities as excuses to cry foul.
- Flyskippy

I hate when they sterotype themselves "Italian guilt" "loud Italians". "Were just typical Italians". Uhh.. no, you are just using that as to excuse your obnoxiousness.

My buddy thinks because he is Irish he can drink anyone under the table. Drives me nuts.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:42 PM ET
I hate when they sterotype themselves "Italian guilt" "loud Italians". "Were just typical Italians". Uhh.. no, you are just using that as to excuse your obnoxiousness.

My buddy thinks because he is Irish he can drink anyone under the table. Drives me nuts.

- jak521


Agreed 100%. All that is just as bad as gender roles!!!!!!!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 8 @ 12:42 PM ET
Where did that come from?

The guy busts his chops and gets back early from an achilles injury. That alone shows he is not just about money. It screams positive character too.

Weird statement.

- Marc D


Blinded by hate.

Hate > Facts
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:43 PM ET
The roster in 2009-10 was perfect for his system as well as the 2010-11 team for the most part. Since, he hasn't made the necessary adjustments.
- NickTheKid87

You know, I believe that if they pick up a defenseman with a good two way game to replace what Kimmo gives them, and get a solid third pair,

AND when Couts and B Schenn play the high level two way game they project being capable of, they will succeed with Lavi's system.

But I don't know if Lavi will make it through this season to see that.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:44 PM ET
Agreed 100%. All that is just as bad as gender roles!!!!!!!
- NickTheKid87

way worse..
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:44 PM ET
We are all perplexed. The guy who said that hasn't been back today either.
- NickTheKid87

the poster is typically a very knowledgeable hockey guy, it was surprising
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:45 PM ET
Agreed 100%. All that is just as bad as gender roles!!!!!!!
- NickTheKid87


You keep harping on that...you're really Gloria Steinem, aren't you?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:46 PM ET
the poster is typically a very knowledgeable hockey guy, it was surprising
- Marc D



I give that a
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 8 @ 12:47 PM ET
I hate when they sterotype themselves "Italian guilt" "loud Italians". "Were just typical Italians". Uhh.. no, you are just using that as to excuse your obnoxiousness.

My buddy thinks because he is Irish he can drink anyone under the table. Drives me nuts.

- jak521


Another reason C.S. Lewis is one of my favorite writers:

"In our own case we accept excuses too easily; in other people’s we do not accept them easily enough."
jmatchett
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 01.13.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:47 PM ET
But you have confidence in the team in front of him to give him a good chance to clear something after he makes the first save? Pinning the blame on Bryz is the popular and incorrect move.
- Flyskippy


First of all, I've been a Bryz supporter for the last year or so, after last February basically. I'm not saying that he's awful, but for the cap hit the Flyers are absorbing, he's not currently delivering. What I was implying is that he's getting paid to be a top-10 goalie int he league and, quality of shots faced included, he's not playing like it, so I'd rather that money go to resigning young players and try to get a young goalie who could hopefully develop into a star.

And no, I have no confidence in the defense either. I understand that it's the goalie's job to make the first save and the defense's job to clear it. As much as I like a lot of these players, some moves need to happen, and some tough decisions will have to be made by management.

Basically, I guess what I'm saying is that I have little to no confidence in the majority of this team. I can live with a season or 2 of growing pains if they win a Cup in the next decade. Snider probably can't, but I don't see any quick fix that will turn this team into a contender (including firing the coach). I'm fine with a tear down and a build around G/Coots/Schenn/Simmonds/Jake, trade some of the vets for picks/prospects, develop some semblance of a defense, take a shot on some promising goalie prospects, and maybe in 3-4 years you can contend. Right now, this team is in place to regress unless a drastic move is made (see: Flames, Calgary).
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:48 PM ET
Getzlaff will be a Duck for eight years, per NHL Gamecenter
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:49 PM ET
I give that a
- MJL

my post?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:50 PM ET
You keep harping on that...you're really Gloria Steinem, aren't you?
- tangent_man


No I'm not a feminist at all. Most feminists are also sexist. I'm for equality across the board.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:50 PM ET
Getzlaff will be a Duck for eight years, per NHL Gamecenter
- BulliesPhan87

$?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:52 PM ET
$?
- Marc D

Id assume a fair amount
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:52 PM ET
Another reason C.S. Lewis is one of my favorite writers:

"In our own case we accept excuses too easily; in other people’s we do not accept them easily enough."

- Flyskippy






nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 8 @ 12:53 PM ET
The 14 teams that don't make the playoffs get a shot at the number one pick rite??
- griouxmvp2012



the Flyers didn't win the lottery when they were by far the worse team in the league so I have no hope that the hockey gods would shine on us
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:53 PM ET
$?
- Marc D

$8.25m cap hit, per Bob McKenzie
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:53 PM ET
No I'm not a feminist at all. Most feminists are also sexist. I'm for equality across the board.
- NickTheKid87


Just hecklin'.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:53 PM ET
Id assume a fair amount
- jak521

8.25/yr X 8 yrs is what is being tweeted



what will Giroux get?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
the Flyers didn't win the lottery when they were by far the worse team in the league so I have no hope that the hockey gods would shine on us
- nastyflyergirl


You just gotta believe!!!
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