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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
8.25/yr X 8 yrs is what is being tweeted



what will Giroux get?

- Marc D

eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
$?
- Marc D


Kypreos says he heard in the neighborhood of the 8yrs at 66M. 8.25M

Yowza
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
Just hecklin'.
- tangent_man


I know
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
8.25/yr X 8 yrs is what is being tweeted



what will Giroux get?

- Marc D


That hurts. Adios to Perry
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
If Corey Perry resigns in Anaheim, he should change is name to Porey Cerry
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
8.25/yr X 8 yrs is what is being tweeted



what will Giroux get?

- Marc D

8 years, $66m, the keys to the WFC, the mayorship of Philadelphia, plus Boardwalk and Park Place
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 8 @ 12:55 PM ET
First of all, I've been a Bryz supporter for the last year or so, after last February basically. I'm not saying that he's awful, but for the cap hit the Flyers are absorbing, he's not currently delivering. What I was implying is that he's getting paid to be a top-10 goalie int he league and, quality of shots faced included, he's not playing like it, so I'd rather that money go to resigning young players and try to get a young goalie who could hopefully develop into a star.

And no, I have no confidence in the defense either. I understand that it's the goalie's job to make the first save and the defense's job to clear it. As much as I like a lot of these players, some moves need to happen, and some tough decisions will have to be made by management.

Basically, I guess what I'm saying is that I have little to no confidence in the majority of this team. I can live with a season or 2 of growing pains if they win a Cup in the next decade. Snider probably can't, but I don't see any quick fix that will turn this team into a contender (including firing the coach). I'm fine with a tear down and a build around G/Coots/Schenn/Simmonds/Jake, trade some of the vets for picks/prospects, develop some semblance of a defense, take a shot on some promising goalie prospects, and maybe in 3-4 years you can contend. Right now, this team is in place to regress unless a drastic move is made (see: Flames, Calgary).

- jmatchett


Ok, I get your meaning. I mistook your post for a garden-variety goalie blame post.

Not sure if you recall, but when Bryz was a name bandied about in the summer of 2011, I was against his signing. I support him now because he's my favorite team's goalie but I would have preferred sticking with Bob and a vet for a backup (my dream being trading for Nabokov from the Islanders). However, if they buy him out or trade him and use the cap space to bolster their team I'm all for it.

Your last paragraph I would agree with. I'm on board the "get an instructive coach in here pronto" movement because what they're going through now can affect next season. Righting the ship, as MJL said earlier, is the way to go.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:55 PM ET
8.25/yr X 8 yrs is what is being tweeted



what will Giroux get?

- Marc D


Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 8 @ 12:55 PM ET
8.25/yr X 8 yrs is what is being tweeted



what will Giroux get?

- Marc D


I was thinking 8 years, $60 million.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 8 @ 12:55 PM ET
66 million over 8 years for Getzlaf
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:55 PM ET
If Corey Perry resigns in Anaheim, he should change is name to Porey Cerry
- jak521


His days in SoCal are done buns. Unless he signs with the Kings.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:56 PM ET
So what? Age and time served doesn't mean you've grown in knowledge of the game. If it did, Tim Panaccio would be a better writer than Bill but we all know that's not even remotely near being true.
- Flyskippy

Siccum boy! sorry vej.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 8 @ 12:57 PM ET
8 years, $66m, the keys to the WFC, the mayorship of Philadelphia, plus Boardwalk and Park Place
- BulliesPhan87

Also will be the newest piece as a human likeness is added to Monopoly, replacing the thimble.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:57 PM ET
Ok, I get your meaning. I mistook your post for a garden-variety goalie blame post.

Not sure if you recall, but when Bryz was a name bandied about in the summer of 2011, I was against his signing. I support him now because he's my favorite team's goalie but I would have preferred sticking with Bob and a vet for a backup (my dream being trading for Nabokov from the Islanders). However, if they buy him out or trade him and use the cap space to bolster their team I'm all for it.

Your last paragraph I would agree with. I'm on board the "get an instructive coach in here pronto" movement because what they're going through now can affect next season. Righting the ship, as MJL said earlier, is the way to go.

- Flyskippy

Skip, don't you think over playing Bryz has hurt?

I know he supposedly thrives on work, but mentally at times he seems fatigued.

Getting a back up they trust seems to be an important hole to fill.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:58 PM ET

- NickTheKid87

love the eyebrow arch
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 8 @ 12:59 PM ET
Skip, don't you think over playing Bryz has hurt?

I know he supposedly thrives on work, but mentally at times he seems fatigued.

Getting a back up they trust seems to be an important hole to fill.

- Marc D

Not as much as playing AHL goalies would have hurt. You'd be asking a lot of your forwards to cover an extra 1-2 goals per game. You think they play risky "Go, go, go" offense now? Imagine a 4-1 offense with Foster and Gervais out there.



EDIT: Some sarcasm was tossed in here, in case folks' detectors are off.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 8 @ 1:00 PM ET
$8.25m cap hit, per Bob McKenzie
- BulliesPhan87


Overpaid.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 1:00 PM ET
per twitter

Zolnierczyk has been ruled eligible by the AHL effective today. He would have to sit out the 2 games on any subsequent call-up to the NHL.

So an NHL suspension does not count in the AHL. I never knew that.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 8 @ 1:00 PM ET
His days in SoCal are done buns. Unless he signs with the Kings.
- NickTheKid87

If they were smart they would trade him.. regardless of how they are playing.. You will get a fortune for him.
flyershockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: smh, NC
Joined: 07.09.2006

Mar 8 @ 1:01 PM ET
I'm okay with that. But Bryzgalov is still right up there isn't he? So the point is the same.
- MJL


i would have agreed with you after January, not after February
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 8 @ 1:02 PM ET
They sucked last night and as Bill said are under.500 for a reason. Coach isn't adjusting and there's been serious overturn on the roster since Lavy took over but same old same old over and over. Lunch is over take care.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 8 @ 1:04 PM ET
Breaking News:

I just checked Philly.com and TSN.

Lavi is still Flyers coach. Confirmed. (LF5)

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 8 @ 1:04 PM ET
If they were smart they would trade him.. regardless of how they are playing.. You will get a fortune for him.
- jak521


I agree 100%. I bet he doesn't get moved though. That seems to be the case almost every time something like this happens.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 1:04 PM ET
Overpaid.
- Lexington Flyer

same $ as Eric Staal

A lot of dough but not out of line compared to similar players
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 8 @ 1:05 PM ET
66 million over 8 years for Getzlaf
- nastyflyergirl


Right now not sure how giroux could command more than him. I think we're looking at 8 for roo
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