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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 7:22 PM ET
i have never bashed him, always feel like he'll come to the rescue at some point

this year... i'm bashing him. just AWFUL the last few games, like he's not even trying. give someone else the minutes.

- Don'tForgetTocchet

maybe he only has enough left to show up for the playoffs, but he needs to do his magic now or there wont be any playoffs

if they can trade him for anything of value I would do it right now

also lavi could just stop giving him ice time, but maybe coach sees things differently
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 7:29 PM ET
Damn it. I was ready to order a jersey.
- MunsterMike


You can he is playing in the KHL
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 8 @ 7:32 PM ET
maybe he only has enough left to show up for the playoffs, but he needs to do his magic now or there wont be any playoffs

if they can trade him for anything of value I would do it right now

also lavi could just stop giving him ice time, but maybe coach sees things differently

- Marc D


6.5 million
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 8 @ 7:34 PM ET
no announcers on the TSN feed of the Rags/Sens game...weird
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 8 @ 7:35 PM ET
maybe he only has enough left to show up for the playoffs, but he needs to do his magic now or there wont be any playoffs

if they can trade him for anything of value I would do it right now

also lavi could just stop giving him ice time, but maybe coach sees things differently

- Marc D



i would have sat his ass and given rinaldo his shifts yesterday.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 8 @ 7:37 PM ET
i would have sat his ass and given rinaldo his shifts yesterday.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

i would try to move him at this point if we could convince him to waive the NMC.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 8 @ 7:39 PM ET
i would try to move him at this point if we could convince him to waive the NMC.
- isaiah520


I know he likes it here according to sources but why stay somewhere if the team is trying to move you.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Mar 8 @ 7:39 PM ET
no announcers on the TSN feed of the Rags/Sens game...weird
- isaiah520


I've got Gord Miller and Aaron Ward calling it on my TSN feed?

I'm also flipping back and forth to the London/Sarnia game, Stolarz in net.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 7:40 PM ET
Great piece with photos describing the team wide breakdown on the 4th Rags goal the other night. Recommended.

http://www.broadstreethoc...-the-line-change-to-blame

- Marc D


I detailed the play right after the Rangers game. Also look at Briere. What is he doing? He is neither in good position offensively, or defensively. It's a simple case of one of the biggest issues with this team. All 3 Forward favored the offensive side of the puck. Nor is the breakout in sync, as he detailed all 3 forwards standing still and flatfooted. What chance do you have to get on the puck?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 7:42 PM ET
you mean like a coach shouldn't play him against malkin and crosby over and over for some reason even though we had last change?
- Don'tForgetTocchet


That might be a good idea.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 8 @ 7:42 PM ET
I've got Gord Miller and Aaron Ward calling it on my TSN feed?

I'm also flipping back and forth to the London/Sarnia game, Stolarz in net.

- Rocktane

i have the gamecenter feed and i hear everything else.

let us know how stolarz looks
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 8 @ 7:44 PM ET
I know he likes it here according to sources but why stay somewhere if the team is trying to move you.
- stveshdy


Its fair to suggest that nobody wants him. Honestly if teams are out there scouting him their shaking their heads walking out of the arena
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 7:44 PM ET
Briere really quit on that play. I know he is getting killed in here, but sometimes the truth hurts
- Marc D


Yes, he did. He continued to go deeper into the offensive zone. As soon as he sees Lunqvist get the puck, and realize there is no way he get's to the puck on the forecheck. He should have done am immediate turn to drop back into the neutral zone. There is play after play of the same thing. This team plays the offensive side of the puck far too much. And is far too aggressive and gambling on the offensive side of the puck.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 8 @ 7:45 PM ET
Its fair to suggest that nobody wants him. Honestly if teams are out there scouting him their shaking their heads walking out of the arena
- Just5


His playoff numbers alone make him worth the risk (for another team).
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 8 @ 7:45 PM ET
I know he likes it here according to sources but why stay somewhere if the team is trying to move you.
- stveshdy

it may come to that...

BTW, i'm not averse to moving kimmo, if he is open to it, if this thing really goes south. maybe a contender w/ cap space wants him for 2nd pair duty...playing like a 3rd pairing guy right now.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 8 @ 7:47 PM ET
His playoff numbers alone make him worth the risk (for another team).
- stveshdy


Thats right I forgot about his -9 or whatever he is in the playoffs the last couple years
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 8 @ 7:47 PM ET
it may come to that...

BTW, i'm not averse to moving kimmo, if he is open to it, if this thing really goes south. maybe a contender w/ cap space wants him for 2nd pair duty...playing like a 3rd pairing guy right now.

- isaiah520


I honestly believe the Flyers have zero interest in moving Timonen. IMO, he will finish his career in a Flyers uniform.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 8 @ 7:48 PM ET
Thats right I forgot about his -9 or whatever he is in the playoffs the last couple years
- Just5


Put him on a team like Boston or St. Louis and the have enough team defense they won't have to worry about Briere being a liability.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Mar 8 @ 7:48 PM ET
i have the gamecenter feed and i hear everything else.

let us know how stolarz looks

- isaiah520


Apparently Wilson and Ward were calling the game from the TSN studios, Cuthbert and Ferraro were delayed getting to the rink. They're calling it now.

Stolarz with a dribbler, 1-0 Sarnia
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 8 @ 7:49 PM ET
it may come to that...

BTW, i'm not averse to moving kimmo, if he is open to it, if this thing really goes south. maybe a contender w/ cap space wants him for 2nd pair duty...playing like a 3rd pairing guy right now.

- isaiah520


I don't know. The ufa d market blows so bad. We'd just have to overpay someone on a multi year deal. I'm not up in arms about kimmo for one more year.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 8 @ 7:57 PM ET
I honestly believe the Flyers have zero interest in moving Timonen. IMO, he will finish his career in a Flyers uniform.
- stveshdy

if we can't move briere, we can buy him out and that's one of the reasons i think he will consent to a trade to a contender.

kimmo, on the other hand, is clearly on the decline and i feel that homer pulled the trigger too soon on that re-up. love what he brought us, but this d needs to be re-built at the top end and i'd like to pile up as many assets as i can if i'm homer.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 8 @ 7:59 PM ET
Apparently Wilson and Ward were calling the game from the TSN studios, Cuthbert and Ferraro were delayed getting to the rink. They're calling it now.

Stolarz with a dribbler, 1-0 Sarnia

- Rocktane

thanks... i'm on to the WPG/FL game. damn, we missed the boat if there was any chance to get bogo or kane. both look superb of late.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 8 @ 8:03 PM ET
I don't know. The ufa d market blows so bad. We'd just have to overpay someone on a multi year deal. I'm not up in arms about kimmo for one more year.
- Just5

i'm looking to pile up assets for a trade. this team is trending poorly on d and in goal. right now, i'm ok bringing bryz back, but the d needs 2 solid additions and kimmo has dipped below the equator.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM ET
He hasnt had it for awhile now. Crash landing this year though. Oh well he will be bought out soon
- Just5

I'd take Briere on the Pens for a low cap hit. He could be used on Crosby's line for sure.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 8 @ 8:07 PM ET
i'm looking to pile up assets for a trade. this team is trending poorly on d and in goal. right now, i'm ok bringing bryz back, but the d needs 2 solid additions and kimmo has dipped below the equator.
- isaiah520

Agreed. However I dont think we'll be able to move him tho. I would move him for a 2nd rounder in a heart beat if I could. He's driving me nuts.
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