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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 11:54 AM ET
I know others see it differently but I'd play out the entire season and if the team misses the playoffs, Make a change in the offseason. Let the new coach have a full training camp to make changes.
- Hextall271

Thats also an option.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 9 @ 11:54 AM ET
Wasn't Murray the coach for the LA Kings last year before getting fired?
- stveshdy


Yes. He also coached the Caps, Flyers and Panthers, too. Laviolette was fired by the Isles and Hurricanes. Don't see the point.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 9 @ 11:55 AM ET
Yes. He also coached the Caps, Flyers and Panthers, too. Laviolette was fired by the Isles and Hurricanes. Don't see the point.
- Jsaquella

with how hot the kings were at the end of last season even a high school coach would have won the cup
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 11:56 AM ET
Yes. He also coached the Caps, Flyers and Panthers, too. Laviolette was fired by the Isles and Hurricanes. Don't see the point.
- Jsaquella


I'm just suggesting that style can hurt any coach. No guarantee Murray fixes the problem if hired.

Murray himself was fired by LA for underachieving.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 11:57 AM ET
with how hot the kings were at the end of last season even a high school coach would have won the cup
- 2Real


That statement suggest that coaching is overrated.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 9 @ 11:58 AM ET
That statement suggest that coaching is overrated.
- stveshdy

at sometimes yes it can be
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 9 @ 11:58 AM ET
we need the new coach before the draft so we know what types of players he likes
- 2Real


The day after the season ends ( assuming no deep playoff run) then I make the switch.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 9 @ 11:59 AM ET
Lets say they do make the change your suggesting. What if the Flyers bring in Murray and they still continue to play the same way? What do they do next?
- stveshdy


One of the key reasons I'd hire Murray is because hiring him as an interim coach doesn't mean that I'm tied to him for the next 3 years, which would be the case with Lindy Ruff.

It gives me time to look at other candidates-including Murray-and make an informed decision on a coach and on which players are willing to buy in and adapt to a coach who demands accountability and discipline.

That gives me a much better idea of not only what kind of coach I want, it also shows me which players I can count on to adapt and fit with the ultimate direction the team would be taking.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 9 @ 11:59 AM ET
The day after the season ends ( assuming no deep playoff run) then I make the switch.
- Hextall271

makes sense if it's no later than that
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 9 @ 12:00 PM ET
One of the key reasons I'd hire Murray is because hiring him as an interim coach doesn't mean that I'm tied to him for the next 3 years, which would be the case with Lindy Ruff.

It gives me time to look at other candidates-including Murray-and make an informed decision on a coach and on which players are willing to buy in and adapt to a coach who demands accountability and discipline.

That gives me a much better idea of not only what kind of coach I want, it also shows me which players I can count on to adapt and fit with the ultimate direction the team would be taking.

- Jsaquella

JS for GM 2014!
Mail in your votes on www.philadelphiaflyers.com
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 9 @ 12:00 PM ET
I'm just suggesting that style can hurt any coach. No guarantee Murray fixes the problem if hired.

Murray himself was fired by LA for underachieving.

- stveshdy


Murray has shown, over his career, that he's not married to any single style, which was why I rehashed the offensive performance of the teams he's coached.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 9 @ 12:03 PM ET
JS for GM 2014!
Mail in your votes on www.philadelphiaflyers.com

- 2Real


I just want to be a well paid pro scout. Or even a moderately paid pro scout.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 12:04 PM ET
One of the key reasons I'd hire Murray is because hiring him as an interim coach doesn't mean that I'm tied to him for the next 3 years, which would be the case with Lindy Ruff.

It gives me time to look at other candidates-including Murray-and make an informed decision on a coach and on which players are willing to buy in and adapt to a coach who demands accountability and discipline.

That gives me a much better idea of not only what kind of coach I want, it also shows me which players I can count on to adapt and fit with the ultimate direction the team would be taking.

- Jsaquella


So you would be willing to move mutiple players if needed?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 9 @ 12:05 PM ET
I just want to be a well paid pro scout. Or even a moderately paid pro scout.
- Jsaquella


I want to be paid by the post here on Hockeybuzz!
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 9 @ 12:05 PM ET
I just want to be a well paid pro scout. Or even a moderately paid pro scout.
- Jsaquella


You just want a lot of travel to be away from home
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 12:06 PM ET
Murray has shown, over his career, that he's not married to any single style, which was why I rehashed the offensive performance of the teams he's coached.
- Jsaquella


The Flyers have a current coach whos style has proven to work and win a stanley cup. Now we may disagree that his style doesn't work with this team or he missed the playoffs multiple times. I'm more concerned about what direction the organization wants to go at this point. Right now it doesn't matter on the coach until they address what style their looking for.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 9 @ 12:06 PM ET
So you would be willing to move mutiple players if needed?
- stveshdy


I am willing to move ANYBODY if it improves the team. I don't have an untouchable. There's guys I'd want massive returns for, but nobody is untouchable
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

Mar 9 @ 12:07 PM ET
5-2 bruins
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 9 @ 12:07 PM ET
I just want to be a well paid pro scout. Or even a moderately paid pro scout.
- Jsaquella

funny you mention this because i watched trouble with the curve last night
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 9 @ 12:08 PM ET
The Flyers have a current coach whos style has proven to work and win a stanley cup. Now we may disagree that his style doesn't work with this team or he missed the playoffs multiple times. I'm more concerned about what direction the organization wants to go at this point. Right now it doesn't matter on the coach until they address what style their looking for.
- stveshdy


Who the Coach is in the future, will tell what style they're looking for.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 12:08 PM ET
I am willing to move ANYBODY if it improves the team. I don't have an untouchable. There's guys I'd want massive returns for, but nobody is untouchable
- Jsaquella


When you say massive does that mean that teams would have to give up the moon for those players? Or we talking realistic here with a real chance of trading?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 12:09 PM ET
Who the Coach is in the future, will tell what style they're looking for.
- MJL


Obviously. So right now today they must like the style of Lavi b/c hes still behind the bench.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 9 @ 12:09 PM ET
5-2 bruins
- flyfan1212


Sounds about right. I want them to get the 2pts They need but I'm realistic. Here.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 9 @ 12:11 PM ET
So you would be willing to move mutiple players if needed?
- stveshdy


As a wannabe GM, that is exactly what I would be doing in the off-season, regardless of a coaching change.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 9 @ 12:12 PM ET
Who the Coach is in the future, will tell what style they're looking for.
- MJL


Do you have any confidence inthis organization being able to bring in someone as an interim coach?

Or is it much more likely whoever replaces Lava is given a 2 year extension almost immediately.
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