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FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 9 @ 2:43 PM ET
God help me, but I'm actually hoping Terry Murray is the coach by tomorrow.
- FlyerGuy


the chief era begins at 4 pm
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 9 @ 2:43 PM ET
briere, Talbot and couturier are pretty much useless this season.
- opeth_pa


Look up sophomore slump, see toothless Coots.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 9 @ 2:44 PM ET
God help me, but I'm actually hoping Terry Murray is the coach by tomorrow.
- FlyerGuy

He's been helping me with that for about a week now
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 2:44 PM ET
briere, Talbot and couturier are pretty much useless this season.
- opeth_pa


I know Couturier is young but I thought the Flyers would get more on offensive from him.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:44 PM ET
you are watching a flyers team that doesnt give a crap..the Blue Jackets are more exciting
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 9 @ 2:45 PM ET
Good quote from Dustin Leed on twitter:

Do you build around coaches' system, or do you build around players on the ice? Because Philly failed at both. And it equaled trades.

- feelingkettle

There are a lot of good players on the flyer roster.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 9 @ 2:45 PM ET
Yup. A coach can teach, but it's up to players to execute.

The idea that Lavi is a good coach who doesn't make adjustments is a bit absurd. How can he be both?

The players can, however, be tuning him out.

- wolfhounds


Good coaches get fired all the time. Hitchcock got fired and is doing a great job in St Louis.
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:45 PM ET
Conversely, the coach needs to adjust his system to fit his roster. What if it was injuries and not a failed acquisition of Weber?

The Flyers are poorly coached. There's no discipline, no accountability and they can't adjust to beat disciplined teams. That stuff is largely a matter of coaching

- Jsaquella

Who was the bone head that hired Lavy? From Stanley Cup winning coach to this. Injuries could be the reason. They've had their share but it exposed a lack of depth.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 9 @ 2:45 PM ET
I know Couturier is young but I thought the Flyers would get more on offensive from him.
- stveshdy


He's not really given much opportunity in a scoring role.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 2:46 PM ET
you are watching a flyers team that doesnt give a crap..the Blue Jackets are more exciting
- vejim


The fact you even typed that tells you how bad it is.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 9 @ 2:46 PM ET
How ironic would it be that Boston is the last team Lavy faces behind the bench
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 9 @ 2:47 PM ET
Good coaches get fired all the time. Hitchcock got fired and is doing a great job in St Louis.
- Jsaquella


Yup. I fully expect Lavi to be gone. If the Flyers aren't going to make any big trades - and so far they aren't in any rumors - then the change is likely to be the coach.

I'm cool with that. And it might help. I'm just saying the problem goes beyond the coach.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 2:48 PM ET
He's not really given much opportunity in a scoring role.
- Jsaquella


He hasn't really earned the opportunity. Even when he does get shifts hes like a ghost in the offensive zone.

I do agree with you though. They should give him more opportunities. Why keep wasting time with Briere who should be gone at the end of the deadline or year.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 9 @ 2:48 PM ET
Who was the bone head that hired Lavy? From Stanley Cup winning coach to this. Injuries could be the reason. They've had their share but it exposed a lack of depth.
- 2731color


It wasn't boneheaded to hire Laviolette. For whatever reason, what he's doing now isn't working like it did in 2010.

Injuries could be the reason. But why is Ottawa continuing to do solidly without their star center, leading goal scorer, Norris Trophy winning defenseman and star goalie? Why does New Jersey continue to be a good team despite losing it's star forward, Zach Parise?

Laviolette is running the same scheme with Schenn, Gervais, Foster, Gustafsson and Grossmann he did with Pronger and Carle.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:49 PM ET
How ironic would it be that Boston is the last team Lavy faces behind the bench
- JoeRussomanno

wonder how Eddie Snider is taking this?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 9 @ 2:49 PM ET
He hasn't really earned the opportunity. Even when he does get shifts hes like a ghost in the offensive zone.

I do agree with you though. They should give him more opportunities. Why keep wasting time with Briere who should be gone at the end of the deadline or year.

- stveshdy


Exactly, Briere hasn't earned the extra time, either. Rather see Couturier play with better skilled wingers and see if he can manage to get something going.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 9 @ 2:49 PM ET
He hasn't really earned the opportunity. Even when he does get shifts hes like a ghost in the offensive zone.

I do agree with you though. They should give him more opportunities. Why keep wasting time with Briere who should be gone at the end of the deadline or year.

- stveshdy


they still hope to trade him
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:50 PM ET
the chief era begins at 4 pm
- FlyerMike18

wayne cashman, part 2
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:50 PM ET
It is a slump to an extent, but there's also a huge lack of discipline, guys aren't being held accountable and the adjustments to a revamped roster haven't been made or simply are not effective.
- Jsaquella

New coach and a breire trade would make me happy.

On a positive note it sure is nice to see Read zipping around out there and Mezzy with some nice D to D passes.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Mar 9 @ 2:50 PM ET
There are a lot of good players on the flyer roster.
- JoeRussomanno


I agree. What the Frank is going on, I always went for the Flyers in the playoffs the years the Leafs Missed. Do they Miss Pronger that Bad? Is Mr.Universe That Bad? Is Laviolette That Bad? How much do you guys want for Rinaldo????
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 9 @ 2:51 PM ET
Yup. I fully expect Lavi to be gone. If the Flyers aren't going to make any big trades - and so far they aren't in any rumors - then the change is likely to be the coach.

I'm cool with that. And it might help. I'm just saying the problem goes beyond the coach.

- wolfhounds


I've never felt that changing the coach will magically change anything. I laid out my opinion back on page 7 or os.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 2:51 PM ET
Exactly, Briere hasn't earned the extra time, either. Rather see Couturier play with better skilled wingers and see if he can manage to get something going.
- Jsaquella


No doubt. This is something that should be happening.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 9 @ 2:51 PM ET
How much do you guys want for Rinaldo????
- Jimmy_wiener

Kadri and a 1st
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 9 @ 2:51 PM ET
I feel like Holmgren can't really make any decent trades. Either they ask for the moon, or they push too much cap coming back Philly's way. It's almost as if the NHL teams collectively have all agreed to fleece the Flyers. After all, they're the reason there was another lockout (Shea Weber).
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 9 @ 2:52 PM ET
they still hope to trade him
- FlyerMike18


The more ice time he gets the worse he looks.

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