Most people would trade him in the right deal, myself included. But ask an honest question that is rhetorical. If the team was winning and he was playing well, you and others would still be discussing trading him? Reading minds in not necessary to figure that out.
- MJL

If he had not had such an extreme slump in this season then he would still be untouchable in my eyes yes.

I dont understand the huge issue here. Nobody is willing to throw him away. It was a minor topic brought up in the grand scheme of the teams issues.

Tonight's draft focus is on Ryan Pulock, (D) - Brandon Wheat Kings

ISS - "Poised well rounded D-man. Good offensive upside w/ big shot. Effective on PP. Good open ice hitter."

Tonight's draft focus is on Ryan Pulock, (D) - Brandon Wheat Kings

ISS - "Poised well rounded D-man. Good offensive upside w/ big shot. Effective on PP. Good open ice hitter."


- ob18

Stud offensive dman

If he had not had such an extreme slump in this season then he would still be untouchable in my eyes yes.

I dont understand the huge issue here. Nobody is willing to throw him away. It was a minor topic brought up in the grand scheme of the teams issues.
- flyer_nutter

The issue is the weight that is being put on his so called slump in this Season towards changing his perceived value. The entire team is slumping. And the entire team has a confidence issue. But the 20 year old who is in his 2nd NHL Season shouldn't be affected by that. And because of this "slump" he's obviously not going to be as good as we thought. Like I said earlier, ridiculous.

Stud offensive dman
- griouxmvp2012

He has that potential. Like his game a fair amount as well.

The issue is the weight that is being put on his so called slump in this Season towards changing his perceived value. The entire team is slumping. And the entire team has a confidence issue. But the 20 year old who is in his 2nd NHL Season shouldn't be affected by that. And because of this "slump" he's obviously not going to be as good as we thought. Like I said earlier, ridiculous.
- MJL

As good as we thought?

I am not going to debate what a player will turn into when he is in his 2nd season in the NHL. He is slumping compared to his play last season. Truth?

If he is untouchable in your eyes, then thats cool?

Stud offensive dman
- griouxmvp2012

Only a few hours drive from me. Maybe I should go out and try and catch a game if I have time.

Good celebrations if nothing else.

As good as we thought?

I am not going to debate what a player will turn into when he is in his 2nd season in the NHL. He is slumping compared to his play last season. Truth?

If he is untouchable in your eyes, then thats cool?
- flyer_nutter

His potential is still the same as it previously was the year before. However, if the right deal comes across that improves the team you pull the trigger on it!

As good as we thought?

I am not going to debate what a player will turn into when he is in his 2nd season in the NHL. He is slumping compared to his play last season. Truth?

If he is untouchable in your eyes, then thats cool?
- flyer_nutter

You're not going to debate what a player will turn into? That is exactly what you're doing by saying he is no longer untouchable based on his "slump" this Season

Only a few hours drive from me. Maybe I should go out and try and catch a game if I have time.

Good celebrations if nothing else.
- flyer_nutter

You only have 2 more chance if you aren't going tonight, March 13 or March 16 as they will miss the playoffs & currently sit last in the Eastern Conference of the WHL

I'd suggest you go March 13 so you can also see Prince Albert's Josh Morrissey another highly ranked D man for this draft

His potential is still the same as it previously was the year before. However, if the right deal comes across that improves the team you pull the trigger on it!
- stveshdy

Definately it is.

Just saw a few things from him this season I didnt like.

Nothing that cant be fixed.

You only have 2 more chance if you aren't going tonight, March 13 or March 16 as they will miss the playoffs & currently sit last in the Eastern Conference of the WHL

I'd suggest you go March 13 so you can also see Prince Albert's Josh Morrissey another highly ranked D man for this draft
- ob18

That would be a Wednesday. Exam on Friday. Not possible. Have to wait for the Flyers to draft him.

I prefer Pulock to Morrissey, but the size Nurse brings is very interesting to me. Ive just seen tidbits of all 3. No 60 minute games. I'd put Ristolainen above all 3.

Definately it is.

Just saw a few things from him this season I didnt like.

Nothing that cant be fixed.
- flyer_nutter

I don't feel like his defense has been all that well this year either. His offense slump is a head scratcher b/c he has talent (although he played with none).

I still like his potential and he is only 20. If a team gives me a great offer I have no problem trading him.

Lavy has to win tomorrow, or he could be gone Monday. A few more losses, and changes on the roster are likely as well...

Giroux, Voracek, Hartnell, and Simmonds are off limits up front. Schenn, Couturier, and Read I would have to be blown away by the offer, ie #1-2 yound d-man. Talbot, Gagne, and Rinaldo are solid bottom 6 forwards. Fedotenko and Knuble can peace out for a bag of pucks. Briere, if he can be traded for assets, needs to go. If not for whatever reason, buyout #1 for sure.

Timonen likely isn't going anywhere, but I would explore a deadline deal if he would accept going elsewhere after signing for next season here. Schenn and Grossmann are shutdown keepers, they stay. I'd be against trading Coburn at this point, bad market move. Sell him low, we won't get value back for him. Meszaros, if we can trade him, I'm for it. When healthy he's alright, but for the cap hit, we can find a cheaper #5 option. Gus is fine as our #6, young and mobile.

That would be a Wednesday. Exam on Friday. Not possible. Have to wait for the Flyers to draft him.

I prefer Pulock to Morrissey, but the size Nurse brings is very interesting to me. Ive just seen tidbits of all 3. No 60 minute games. I'd put Ristolainen above all 3.
- flyer_nutter

How about Rasmus Ristolainen (6' 3"/200 lbs)

How about Rasmus Ristolainen (6' 3"/200 lbs)
- ob18

Ive seen very little of him. Less than the other 3.

Seems to be pretty highly regarded by scouts however and have a more complete game. I know Morrissey, Nurse and Pulock have good offensive potential but if there were questions marks, it would be regarding their defensive game no?

Zadorov obviously seems to be the best guy. Size, and all round skill. Coaches rave about his attitude.

Ive seen very little of him. Less than the other 3.

Seems to be pretty highly regarded by scouts however and have a more complete game. I know Morrissey, Nurse and Pulock have good offensive potential but if there were questions marks, it would be regarding their defensive game no?

Zadorov obviously seems to be the best guy. Size, and all round skill. Coaches rave about his attitude.
- flyer_nutter

Yup some at this point solid choice to select should they go with a d-man in the draft.

Lavy has to win tomorrow, or he could be gone Monday. A few more losses, and changes on the roster are likely as well...

Giroux, Voracek, Hartnell, and Simmonds are off limits up front. Schenn, Couturier, and Read I would have to be blown away by the offer, ie #1-2 yound d-man. Talbot, Gagne, and Rinaldo are solid bottom 6 forwards. Fedotenko and Knuble can peace out for a bag of pucks. Briere, if he can be traded for assets, needs to go. If not for whatever reason, buyout #1 for sure.

Timonen likely isn't going anywhere, but I would explore a deadline deal if he would accept going elsewhere after signing for next season here. Schenn and Grossmann are shutdown keepers, they stay. I'd be against trading Coburn at this point, bad market move. Sell him low, we won't get value back for him. Meszaros, if we can trade him, I'm for it. When healthy he's alright, but for the cap hit, we can find a cheaper #5 option. Gus is fine as our #6, young and mobile.
- Rocktane

A pretty realistic approach. Not too shabby. Gagne actually hasn't been as bad as I thought he might be. If he signs a good deal, Id take a shot on him.

Ive moved to the buyout Bryzgalov camp personally. Was neutral before, but not anymore. Yourself?

Why does a guy like Fedotenko keep being brought up as part of the problem? He's currently first on the team at +5 (a team with tons of minus players), only plays 11-12 minutes a game, and plays lots of minutes on the PK, which is a decent PK considering how bad it was early in the year.

Lavy has to win tomorrow, or he could be gone Monday. A few more losses, and changes on the roster are likely as well...

Giroux, Voracek, Hartnell, and Simmonds are off limits up front. Schenn, Couturier, and Read I would have to be blown away by the offer, ie #1-2 yound d-man. Talbot, Gagne, and Rinaldo are solid bottom 6 forwards. Fedotenko and Knuble can peace out for a bag of pucks. Briere, if he can be traded for assets, needs to go. If not for whatever reason, buyout #1 for sure.

Timonen likely isn't going anywhere, but I would explore a deadline deal if he would accept going elsewhere after signing for next season here. Schenn and Grossmann are shutdown keepers, they stay. I'd be against trading Coburn at this point, bad market move. Sell him low, we won't get value back for him. Meszaros, if we can trade him, I'm for it. When healthy he's alright, but for the cap hit, we can find a cheaper #5 option. Gus is fine as our #6, young and mobile.
- Rocktane

So what you're saying is, don't move anyone?

So what you're saying is, don't move anyone?
- The_Inkwell

Buffalo 3
Flyers 2

Why does a guy like Fedotenko keep being brought up as part of the problem? He's currently first on the team at +5 (a team with tons of minus players), only plays 11-12 minutes a game, and plays lots of minutes on the PK, which is a decent PK considering how bad it was early in the year.
- eayost

Everybody needs a scapegoat. Fedetenko has been fine and has done his job and what he was brought here for.

watching PHO/DAL...if the flyers roster played tippett's system i swear their record would at least be reversed. PHO has very little firepower and most of their forward momentum is generated from their D...and smith is having a sub par season.

Why does a guy like Fedotenko keep being brought up as part of the problem? He's currently first on the team at +5 (a team with tons of minus players), only plays 11-12 minutes a game, and plays lots of minutes on the PK, which is a decent PK considering how bad it was early in the year.
- eayost

This team has bigger issues than Fed. He's a role player and nothing more. The Flyers should concentrate on learning how to play defense in their own end. The neutral zone turnovers were horrendous today.

Why does a guy like Fedotenko keep being brought up as part of the problem? He's currently first on the team at +5 (a team with tons of minus players), only plays 11-12 minutes a game, and plays lots of minutes on the PK, which is a decent PK considering how bad it was early in the year.
- eayost

Its not that he is as much part of the problem as he is the solution. Every player matters.

How many of the top teams in the league would want him on their fourth line? Or their PK? Not too many.

Him and Talbot should watch some shifts of Lappy and Betts before his chronic shoulder problems flared up, if they want to see what is required of them.

Edit: During 5 on 5 play Rinaldo provides more to the team. I dont consider simply being an okay defensive player good enough to be on a 4th line in the NHL. A guy has to provide energy, and give his team some momentum. Something Fedetenko and Talbot have not even come close to doing enough of.