Im honestly baffeled at the responses here. Bottum line this group isnt working. Also 9 more years of ilya are not good. Do you think were gonna find a taker for that? The islanders have 20 million invested into there goaltenders already. We gotta give some to get some. Bottum line dont know how we sign giroux after next season. Were strapped finnancially and have the least cap in the league. How do we get under next years cap. Like it or not something big has to change.
- Joshc

Oh, you're a Flyers fan?

I agree that he hasn't lived up to the contract, but you were disregarding other factors that may have lead to that.
- NickTheKid87

no I'm not. 43 yrs of watching this game, I've seen enuf guys come and go. bryz is not mentally tough enuf to deal with the pressure here consistently. i would understand why homer would give him another yr to try and salvage this thing, but i think the dye is cast. the talent is there, but the intangibles prob are not.

Oh goody here come the "We never should have traded Carter & Bob" people.
- Jsaquella

What about the "we never should have heckled Crosby" people?

Im honestly baffeled at the responses here. Bottum line this group isnt working. Also 9 more years of ilya are not good. Do you think were gonna find a taker for that? The islanders have 20 million invested into there goaltenders already. We gotta give some to get some. Bottum line dont know how we sign giroux after next season. Were strapped finnancially and have the least cap in the league. How do we get under next years cap. Like it or not something big has to change.
- Joshc

Don't need to trade assets like the Schenns to get out from Bryz's contract.

They can just buy him out this summer, if need be.
- bradleyc4

you're not being objective about bryz!

he has not played up to his contract. I've watched every game and i know how often we need him to make the momentum type save where he hasn't come thru. you act as if I'm an out of town fan just looking at numbers. do you want 7 more yrs of what we've seen so far?

that's certainly an objective analysis.
- isaiah520

Meh. If he had less clothespins on him, that would help everyone. After he was mostly playing great in January while the team in front of him sputtered, it was only a matter of time for him to sputter, too. It's the same thing Bill wrote about this year and last - team defense and goaltender play affect one another. For better and for worse. It's a marriage.

no I'm not. 43 yrs of watching this game, I've seen enuf guys come and go. bryz is not mentally tough enuf to deal with the pressure here consistently. i would understand why homer would give him another yr to try and salvage this thing, but i think the dye is cast. the talent is there, but the intangibles prob are not.
- isaiah520

He played in a defensive system in Phoenix and I think that Bryz has proved he can't play without having really strong team defense in front of him so I would at least give him a shot with a new coach (assuming Lavy's gone at some point) and if it doesn't work then buy him out.

Don't need to trade assets like the Schenns to get out from Bryz's contract.

They can just buy him out this summer, if need be.
- bradleyc4

Do it and do a real rebuild.

Do you know how the compliance buyouts work?
- NickTheKid87

Got the general idea but with ilya briere and pronger if he ever comes back i know thats more then 2

What about the "we never should have heckled Crosby" people?
- Lexington Flyer

I'm in that group. Well, sorta. I hate the "Crosby sucks!" chant. Boo him, sure. But the chant?

learn something about the rules of the game you moron...ever here of a compliance buyout? Obviosuly not...
- Philly1980

Got the general idea but with ilya briere and pronger if he ever comes back i know thats more then 2
- Joshc

Can't buy out Pronger because he's injured.

Each team has 2 compliance buyouts that they can use either in the 2013 offseason or the 2014 offseason.

you're not being objective about bryz!
- isaiah520

i was looking at the factors without context

Meh. If he had less clothespins on him, that would help everyone. After he was mostly playing great in January while the team in front of him sputtered, it was only a matter of time for him to sputter, too. It's the same thing Bill wrote about this year and last - team defense and goaltender play affect one another. For better and for worse. It's a marriage.
- Flyskippy

both partners have come up short. we had a better group last yr and he stunk. this yr, with less support, he's mediocre at best. so i guess he's trending upwards...

Oh, you're a Flyers fan?
- canadianpenfan

I didn't see that coming... oh my!

Can't buy out Pronger because he's injured.

Each team has 2 compliance buyouts that they can use either in the 2013 offseason or the 2014 offseason.
- NickTheKid87

Bi owt Bryz, bi owt Briere. Go w/ Boosh and Latan and get a gud draff pikk in 2014.

Oh goody here come the "We never should have traded Carter & Bob" people.
- Jsaquella

eh Jake was player of the week a few ago and really should have been one of the players of the month. Do that trade every day of the week

- Flyskippy

i get mad when i find someone dumber than me on this board lol

I'm in that group. Well, sorta. I hate the "Crosby sucks!" chant. Boo him, sure. But the chant?
- Flyskippy

I'm with you there. It is silly.

he has not played up to his contract. I've watched every game and i know how often we need him to make the momentum type save where he hasn't come thru. you act as if I'm an out of town fan just looking at numbers. do you want 7 more yrs of what we've seen so far?

that's certainly an objective analysis.
- isaiah520

That's the whole point. How many times he has to come up with the momentum save. How many times he has to stand on his head for the team to have a chance. What I want is for the team to play solidly and then we'll see what Bryzalov has.

And here's what you're not considering. They better get the best of the best in here to play goal. Because if the team game in front of the Goalie, doesn't get better. Unless it's a superstar on the level of Hasek, it's not going to matter.

Bi owt Bryz, bi owt Briere. Go w/ Boosh and Latan and get a gud draff pikk in 2014.
- Flyskippy

Save a buyout for 10 years down the road. Or put it in a time capsule and bury it. Then in 50 years the Future Flyers will find it and be able to use on Ilya Bryzgalov III.

both partners have come up short. we had a better group last yr and he stunk. this yr, with less support, he's mediocre at best. so i guess he's trending upwards...
- isaiah520

No he didn't. At times? Yes, but he was not the reason they lost 4 straight to NJ.

I didn't want the guy here, but I'm not on some damned foolish crusade to rip him to shreds at every chance. When the 18 guys in front of him are putrid playing in their own zone, I don't focus on the 1 guy giving his all to stop the puck.

i get mad when i find someone dumber than me on this board lol
- Philly1980

Whatever happened to youarewrong? He was gone before last thanksgiving.

Heres a trade to help both teams. To edmonton brygalof wayne simmonds braydon schenn and luke. To philly choice of khabulin or dubnyk for cap space and contract ease. Ales hemsky and eric belanger and nick shultz. Both teams address needs. Clearly in cap and contract lengths philly is in a good place moving forward. Were not gonna get rid of the brisgolof problem easily and saving the buyout is crucial
- Joshc

Um, No.

You want us to trade Bryz (who has been at times our best player and kept us in whatever place we are this season, yes the rest of the team has been THAT bad), The Schenn's (Luke who has a a rejuvenated career year in Philly and is starting to live up to his hype, and Brayden who is one of the top young league forwards) and Simonds (tied for our leading scorer) for and over the hill injured or young unimpressive goalie and a bunch of constant trade assets that have nobody has ever had a bad enough need to trade for?

How about I trade Gus, McGinn and Leighton for Nail Yakupov?

I'm with you there. It is silly.
- Lexington Flyer

I despise James Neal more. Dumber than a bag of hammers in the first period and yet the Flyers still give that game away. Ugh.

More mad about that game than any other in a long time. Probably because it felt so much like Game 6 in 2009.