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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 12 @ 12:48 PM ET
folder, file whatever fu
- Crimsoninja


put this one in there, too:

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
Actually, yes.
- Jsaquella


mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
It's got a picture of a unicorn on it
- Jsaquella

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
That Carolina team didn't just have Kaberle. They had Hedican, Tverdovsky, Wesley, Hell even Wallin was solid at the first pass and had mobility.

And while he did get to the playoffs twice with the Islanders, he failed to do so for 3 years after winning the Stanley Cup in Carolina.

- Jsaquella

Almost. The third year was cut short and Maurice took over. Not sure if there was a player that came back from injury (a la Gonchar when Bylsma took over for Therrien in Pittsburgh) that helped or not, but he missed the playoffs twice after the Cup win. Maurice then took them to the ECF.

/semi-redundant post
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 12 @ 12:49 PM ET

- hammarby31


I did, not gonna lie.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 12 @ 12:50 PM ET
201-867-5309
- Scoob

North Jersey. I knew it, Jenny!
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 12 @ 12:50 PM ET
I think his philosophy of coaching fits certain teams and not others. If he does not or cannot change it for this team, then he is the wrong coach for the job because it is evident this roster cannot play the way Lavi likes to run a team.
- Flyskippy


+1
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 12 @ 12:50 PM ET
I did, not gonna lie.
- Jsaquella


i believe you. i really do.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 12 @ 12:50 PM ET
You don't need to be in the locker room to see that he hasn't adjusted. It also doesn't take an insider to realize that the forwards' backchecking is god awful and has been since Lavy got here.
- NickTheKid87



So, Lavi must be the only head coach in NHL history to put "backchecking optional" up on the whiteboard before every game, is that what you're saying?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 12 @ 12:51 PM ET
Almost. The third year was cut short and Maurice took over. Not sure if there was a player that came back from injury (a la Gonchar when Bylsma took over for Therrien in Pittsburgh) that helped or not, but he missed the playoffs twice after the Cup win. Maurice then took them to the ECF.

/semi-redundant post

- Flyskippy


I stand semi-corrected.

My hope is that Laviolette has success as long as he is the team's head coach. My issues with him are known, but winning would cure all ills.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 12 @ 12:51 PM ET
North Jersey. I knew it, Jenny!
- Flyskippy




201 used to be central jersey too, until 732 came along. another thing i'm angry about.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 12 @ 12:51 PM ET
i believe you. i really do.
- hammarby31


I mean they looked so stupid...should I keep going on? I also remember that Brashear taped over the stripes on his socks
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Mar 12 @ 12:52 PM ET
I think if the forwards can be taught defensive responsibility, add a puck mover, maybe move a stay at home guy they'll come out next year and challenge for a division title (if that's what it'll be called with realignment).
- NickTheKid87


There are enough defensive type coaches on the team already that can teach them defensive responsibility. Chief, who has done a good job with the PK, and Paddock can definitely do that. Terry Murray is not the answer!
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 12 @ 12:52 PM ET
tony Gonzales coming back to ATL...
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 12 @ 12:52 PM ET

Lavi's fault:
Not being able to make adjustments *


(* hard to verify, since we're not privy to the whiteboard and coaches meetings and conversations behind the bench, not to mention any observations we are making as fans are with untrained eyes, at best)

The next thing somebody will say here is that Lavi's "lost the room", and then we'll have everything we need to justify a fan-mandated coaching change.

- Tomahawk


I don't think we can quite divine whether or not Laviolette has lost the players or not, but make no mistake: The Flyers' record in the recent past (two years?) against New Jersey, Boston, and NYR is not an aberration at this point.

It is a pretty real trend that has shown zero signs of reversing course so far this season. I don't see how anyone can dispute that.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 12 @ 12:53 PM ET
LOL had to make....had to share

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 12 @ 12:53 PM ET
I'd be surprised if the Flyers used either of their amnesty buyouts.
- mayorofangrytown


Why wouldn't they buy out Briere this summer? It costs them very little money ($3.3m spread over four years) and frees up more than 10% of the 2013-14 salary cap.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 12 @ 12:53 PM ET
I stand semi-corrected.

My hope is that Laviolette has success as long as he is the team's head coach. My issues with him are known, but winning would cure all ills.

- Jsaquella

Yeah, it's semantics at this point. Had he continued in that season, do the Canes make the ECF - let alone the playoffs? I don't think so.

*wishes he'd done this research in 2010*

*remembers Rutherford still regretted firing Lavi*

*feels conflicted*
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Mar 12 @ 12:53 PM ET
So, Lavi must be the only head coach in NHL history to put "backchecking optional" up on the whiteboard before every game, is that what you're saying?
- Tomahawk


Seems like that is what most posters on this board are saying. For some reason, many believe that Lavy is all attack and no defensive responsibility at all.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 12 @ 12:54 PM ET
put this one in there, too:


- hammarby31

I had Colorforms as a kid with superheroes and villains in similar poses to the Flyer there.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 12 @ 12:54 PM ET
So, Lavi must be the only head coach in NHL history to put "backchecking optional" up on the whiteboard before every game, is that what you're saying?
- Tomahawk


No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that he's responsible for teaching and getting guys to back check consistently. It's not like it's something that happens a few games here and there, it's nearly every game. The team defense is an issue and has been an issue and he has shown minimal signs of trying to improve it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 12 @ 12:55 PM ET


201 used to be central jersey too, until 732 came along. another thing i'm angry about.

- hammarby31


I can't wait for the highlights from the Maccabee games, where US goalie delivers a two hander to some poor nation's version of Kent Nilsson
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
I mean they looked so stupid...should I keep going on? I also remember that Brashear taped over the stripes on his socks
- Jsaquella


that was next. you saved me the trouble.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 12 @ 12:56 PM ET
There are enough defensive type coaches on the team already that can teach them defensive responsibility. Chief, who has done a good job with the PK, and Paddock can definitely do that. Terry Murray is not the answer!
- aantny88


I would only want Murray as an interim and then go after and young up and comer this offseason. If they want to make a more permanent move, then aim higher.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 12 @ 12:56 PM ET
Yeah, it's semantics at this point. Had he continued in that season, do the Canes make the ECF - let alone the playoffs? I don't think so.

*wishes he'd done this research in 2010*

*remembers Rutherford still regretted firing Lavi*

*feels conflicted*

- Flyskippy


I feel conflicted, too. I don't like calling for people's jobs
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