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Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:25 PM ET
Truculent. Bellicose.
- Flyskippy



caps lock my bad
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 13 @ 9:25 PM ET
He was shaking a dildo on the bench, if he didnt pinch on that earlier play either.

We have all seen how hard he can punch the air.

- flyer_nutter


Gervais is comically bad. It's ridiculous that he was signed.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 13 @ 9:25 PM ET
That's my biggest issue. You have Schenn and Grossman, instead of Pronger and Carle. Change the system. Tweak the system. There is nothing but aggressive stupidity.

AGGRESSIVE STUPIDITY

- GirouxForTheShow


It has become clear Lava will not. I also dont think a coach like Babcock would either.

They need to change the system now. The identity. Yet, (frank)ing again! Management and Snider have been panicking for years now trying to be just like the team that beat them. Going with youth apparently but that didnt last too long either did it?

They need to fire Lava. The team is not built to be aggressive. They are too (frank)ing stupid, and not talented enough on the back end to play such a system. Not consistent enough in the defensive awareness by the forwards. Fire Lava, but if I am Holmgren I start to feel eyes on my back as well.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:26 PM ET
i can only assume unhappy. i'm unaware of your attachment to that number/player.
- hammarby31



my username might give a slight hint... but i'm also a retroactive hextall fan
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 13 @ 9:26 PM ET
Gervais is comically bad. It's ridiculous that he was signed.
- PLindbergh31


Who do you expect? He is not put into a position to be a good player.

Hmmm maybe if they (gasp), signed someone better to begin with? Or had depth in the AHL other than banshee screaming Guss?
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:27 PM ET
It's her age. Always.
- Flyskippy



haha ForeverFlyers39 right?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 13 @ 9:27 PM ET
Stay the course. No need to panic. Its just not their year.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 13 @ 9:27 PM ET
I think you see what you want to see. I also used the key words "most nights". I'm talking about the season as a whole. I always have been. Disagree all you want. Doesn't make you anymore right. It's amazing Bryz has anything resembling a 500 record.

Give Rinaldo the "C" though.

- SuperSchennBros


This is what you said:

I am wrong about a lot of things. Going into this season I felt Voracek wouldn't be at the level that he's playing at now. I felt Briere should play out his contract. I was wrong about both of these.

On the other hand, I never though we had a prayer going into this season. I'm currently crossing my fingers for Seth Jones in the draft. With this said, I do not want to buy out Bryzgalov or fire Laviolette. Players like Rusty, Bruno, Knuble, Boucher and Leighton have my permission to move on.

Bryz is the only guy not giving up and he is our best player most nights...

- SuperSchennBros


Sheesh. I was just saying that Rinaldo has shown up all year, too, SuperSchennsitive.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 13 @ 9:27 PM ET
Just a personal thing but I always believed in a system that played to your strengths.

Not in a system that hid your weakness. That is playing not to lose.

Which is funny, because that is exactly what they need to do. They need to hide the weakness. Lava pisses me off, as do the players, but Holmgren does so much more.

- flyer_nutter


So Holmgren's inability to offer $250mm to Weber & Suter has you more pissed off than Laviolette's inability to tweak his system?
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:27 PM ET
I was complaining about the Flyers, and my g/f just said "who cares? It's not a real season."

I might adopt this view.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:27 PM ET
Gervais is comically bad. It's ridiculous that he was signed.
- PLindbergh31



one of those serious, unfunny comics though
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:28 PM ET
So Holmgren's inability to offer $250mm to Weber & Suter has you more pissed off than Laviolette's inability to tweak his system?
- Jsaquella



zero use even arguing it
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:28 PM ET
It has become clear Lava will not. I also dont think a coach like Babcock would either.

They need to change the system now. The identity. Yet, (frank)ing again! Management and Snider have been panicking for years now trying to be just like the team that beat them. Going with youth apparently but that didnt last too long either did it?

They need to fire Lava. The team is not built to be aggressive. They are too (frank)ing stupid, and not talented enough on the back end to play such a system. Not consistent enough in the defensive awareness by the forwards. Fire Lava, but if I am Holmgren I start to feel eyes on my back as well.

- flyer_nutter


It seems your opinion has changed drastically since a day or two ago. Babcock wouldn't need to change his system with this team, only tweak it. His teams play a responsible two way game.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 13 @ 9:28 PM ET
It has become clear Lava will not. I also dont think a coach like Babcock would either.

They need to change the system now. The identity. Yet, (frank)ing again! Management and Snider have been panicking for years now trying to be just like the team that beat them. Going with youth apparently but that didnt last too long either did it?

They need to fire Lava. The team is not built to be aggressive. They are too (frank)ing stupid, and not talented enough on the back end to play such a system. Not consistent enough in the defensive awareness by the forwards. Fire Lava, but if I am Holmgren I start to feel eyes on my back as well.

- flyer_nutter

Perhaps its time for Comcast to step in and retire Snyder.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 13 @ 9:28 PM ET
What is Homer to do? He did what he could to get the best UFA and best RFA defenseman. I don't see where he is at fault.
- GirouxForTheShow


He was unsuccessful in doing so, because he signed Bryz the year before by listening to his boss, Mr. Snider, who wanted a goalie and... I suddenly don't feel like making a long-winded run-on sentence answer anymore.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 13 @ 9:29 PM ET
This is what you said:



Sheesh. I was just saying that Rinaldo has shown up all year, too, SuperSchennsitive.

- Flyskippy

Why don't you fly or skip away from this conversation. Your choice....
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Mar 13 @ 9:29 PM ET
It has become clear Lava will not. I also dont think a coach like Babcock would either.

They need to change the system now. The identity. Yet, (frank)ing again! Management and Snider have been panicking for years now trying to be just like the team that beat them. Going with youth apparently but that didnt last too long either did it?

They need to fire Lava. The team is not built to be aggressive. They are too (frank)ing stupid, and not talented enough on the back end to play such a system. Not consistent enough in the defensive awareness by the forwards. Fire Lava, but if I am Holmgren I start to feel eyes on my back as well.

- flyer_nutter


I've seen this comment not only from you, but others.... when exactly did they stop "going with youth"? Are we talking about the Pronger trade or other things? They haven't exactly been trading from Adam Oates, Tony Amonte, etc. since 2007.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:29 PM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer

Put entire Devils starting six D on Flyers and you know what... they'd still be an awful defensive team. So it's NOT just personnel.

Bill bringing the heat tonight.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:29 PM ET


six games with ZERO 3rd period goals


killer instinct
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:30 PM ET
Who do you expect? He is not put into a position to be a good player.

Hmmm maybe if they (gasp), signed someone better to begin with? Or had depth in the AHL other than banshee screaming Guss?

- flyer_nutter


Signing someone better requires more Cap space. He was signed to be a part time player. The incompetent GM didn't have that crystal ball you spoke of earlier to know that Meszaros would get hurt in the off season.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 13 @ 9:30 PM ET
6 consecutive games with no 3rd period goals...

that tells you all you need to know about this team.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 13 @ 9:30 PM ET
It all started with trading ford
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 13 @ 9:30 PM ET
Why don't you fly or skip away from this conversation. Your choice....
- SuperSchennBros

Public forum, dude.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 13 @ 9:30 PM ET
What is Homer to do? He did what he could to get the best UFA and best RFA defenseman. I don't see where he is at fault.
- GirouxForTheShow


How about not giving up JVR for a one dimensional d-man?

I think its time to admit the Flyers got their ass felt up on that deal. Gave up a big asset.

I am not Holmgren, and do not have his contacts, but I find it a little hard to believe the best he could do was Luke Schenn, Foster and Gervais.

Flyers have scored no 3rd period goals in last 6 games.

Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:31 PM ET
6 consecutive games with no 3rd period goals...

that tells you all you need to know about this team.

- opeth_pa



omg leight!!
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