This is really what happens when a team is toast. They're so frustrated by the lack of results. I disagree completely that they lack heart. They are just a beaten team. And the main reason is the horrendous job done by Laviolette. Not the only reason, but the main reason. This has been a downhill slide all game. You just can't play the way they play.
- MJL

Without a question it starts there

Im just here for the Plind meltdown...

This is really what happens when a team is toast. They're so frustrated by the lack of results. I disagree completely that they lack heart. They are just a beaten team. And the main reason is the horrendous job done by Laviolette. Not the only reason, but the main reason. This has been a downhill slide all game. You just can't play the way they play.
- MJL

There are signs of heart. Heck, every shift by Rinaldo and Hartnell - though Hartnell often forgets the smart heart and goes with dumb heart when the team is failing. And this is from a guy who was stoked when Hartsy was acquired in 2007, owns his jersey, and was most pleased to get the jersey signed by him 2 weeks ago.

They rarely make it out 10' past their own blueline. It's maddening.

I like Lavi, but he isn't getting it done. I'll not be surprised to see Murray on Friday.
- Lexington Flyer

Me neither. Changes are needed.

Just to get things a little wild.

Lets say they bring in Murray.

Things stay the same or get worse. The D gets exposed, as do the forwards who are not good in their own zone. Bryzgalov's fatigue gets worse.

Just for poops and giggles what then?

Go get em!
- stveshdy

*scores on own net*

*feels vindicated*

Im just here for the Plind meltdown...
- Yosimar89

I've been hanging around for years awaiting the return of Lukin.

You're a better man than me...I just couldn't trudge through it even though I'm sure there would have been a lot of good lore there.

Oh well.

If you haven't already, Patrick Rothfuss' 2 books (3rd out soon) are good.

http://www.patrickrothfuss.com/content/books.asp
- wolfhounds

I'd love to read more, but my list (and stack of books on the nightstand!) is huge right now. I have many more books than time to read them. I'll look at them and add them to my Amazon wishlist, though.

EDIT: That reminds me that I think I was supposed to contact Joe Russomanno about his book or something. Ugh.

You're a better man than me...I just couldn't trudge through it even though I'm sure there would have been a lot of good lore there.

Oh well.

If you haven't already, Patrick Rothfuss' 2 books (3rd out soon) are good.

http://www.patrickrothfuss.com/content/books.asp
- wolfhounds

Two of the best fantasy books I've read this year and that includes a complete re read of Wheel of Time.

Im just here for the Plind meltdown...
- Yosimar89

The calm before the storm. The board is set, the pieces are moving.

Just to get things a little wild.

Lets say they bring in Murray.

Things stay the same or get worse. The D gets exposed, as do the forwards who are not good in their own zone. Bryzgalov's fatigue gets worse.

Just for poops and giggles what then?
- flyer_nutter

Blow it up

Just to get things a little wild.

Lets say they bring in Murray.

Things stay the same or get worse. The D gets exposed, as do the forwards who are not good in their own zone. Bryzgalov's fatigue gets worse.

Just for poops and giggles what then?
- flyer_nutter

not sure the D can get more exposed than it already is.

Im a glutton for punishment I guess.
- aosplayo

Understandable. I often watch just for the player and coach interviews and just imagine white noise over the crew, especially Barkann.

Just to get things a little wild.

Lets say they bring in Murray.

Things stay the same or get worse. The D gets exposed, as do the forwards who are not good in their own zone. Bryzgalov's fatigue gets worse.

Just for poops and giggles what then?
- flyer_nutter

Break it all down in the summer. See who responded to the coach and who did not. Sift the chaff from the wheat.

I'd love to read more, but my list (and stack of books on the nightstand!) is huge right now. I have many more books than time to read them. I'll look at them and add them to my Amazon wishlist, though.
- Flyskippy

rothfuss is worth adding to your wishlist. i anxiously await the 3rd book.

Disagree completely. Don't see at all why this is Holmgren's issue (assuming you meant he should also be feeling the heat). Snider...maybe some blame but it's his team. I think he was more responsible for the Byrz deal than Holmgren.

Last season Holmgren was a genius by almost all accounts for getting such a return for Carter & Richards and revamping the roster in one offseason. He follows that up by going after every good FA on the market, but comes up empty. His fault? Don't really see how - his offeres were better than the ones accepted by those free agents. That doesn't make him a bad GM. Seems to me he did everything he could have done to make the team better.

You want to hang him for the Gervais signing? Foster? OK fine. He could have signed some other scrub, journeymen d-men instead. But there was nobody else out there substantially better than the guys he brought in.

Should he have kept Jagr? In hindsight, maybe. But at the time almost everyone agreed Jagr wanted too much money and nobody wanted to guarantee him a spot on the top line.

Should have hung onto JVR? Again, maybe, but look at how our defense looks tonight without Schenn. You ready for this every night? And it's not like JVR would improve our team D (nor would he be scoring this way on this team).

Sure, there are maybe a few things he wishes he could do over again. But that doesn't make him a bad GM, or the reason this team is playing the way it is. Most of that blame falls squarely on Lavy's shoulders in my opinion.
- BringBack25

Im just here for the Plind meltdown...
- Yosimar89

No meltdown from me. No sweat off my sack that these players lack pride and guts.

Break it all down in the summer. See who responded to the coach and who did not. Sift the chaff from the wheat.
- Flyskippy

When I was little I would go around in the potato field and pop the bugs that ate the potato plants.

I think this team needs some popping.

We did a lot of good things out there
- flyer_nutter

I wish my team was as bad as the Flyers...oh wait...
Really though the problem with the rangers and flyers that would bug me the most it would be having that much talent and still sucking

Forgot Jake. Was hard on him early in the season, put he when he poop out his last dumpling the man came alive.
- flyer_nutter

well it's very important you remember because we're all taking taking notes from hockeybuzz on who the core is!!!

for 20 years now the flyers have struggled to beat the Devils. Is that team rocket science?

When I was little I would go around in the potato field and pop the bugs that ate the potato plants.

I think this team needs some popping.
- flyer_nutter

Ok, we now have our two slogans for the next two orange t-shirt games, which we all know will not be playoff games.

AGGRESSIVE STUPIDITY

and

POP THE BUGS!

Heh, took me three tries to finish the Silmarillion. You get a badge that says "Geek of Dorkdom" when you finish it. You have to send away for it, but worth it!
- Flyskippy

I've tried 3 times but usually I just end up skipping to a few of the tales in there and give up on the rest. After seeing the Hobbit movie I had to read that book again to get the bad taste of the move out. Saw the 3d version...considering going to see the 2d version to see if I feel differently. Anyway read the Hobbit to my 3 year old. Sugarcoated some of the scary scenes and battles. He loved it. Always wants me to tell Hobbit stories at bed time. He likes "Smauggie-Woggie" and "the Necky" (Necromancer).

Naturally I've moved on to Fellowship (not with little guy though...a little too much character development and such for him). I've probably read The Hobbit 6 or 7 times and the LOTR trilogy at least 5. Guess I am a Geek.


I am thinking of checking out Unfinished tales one of these days. ... and someday maybe I'll conquer the road that goes ever on in the Silmarillion.

No meltdown from me. No sweat off my sack that these players lack pride and guts.
- PLindbergh31

Well that's no fun


This people is what we call a beaten man, defeated... like the flyers

for 20 years now the flyers have struggled to beat the Devils. Is that team rocket science?
- vejim

Again with the convenient forgetting of 2004 and 2010, let alone the seasons in those 20 years that the Flyers won the season series.