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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:30 PM ET
thats who im arguing with.
- Philly1980


Via DM?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:30 PM ET
They signed Rathje and Hatcher before getting beat by Buffalo. that's when the stated organization message was to become Buffalo.

Snider makes edicts and then the GM has to react and make changes is my point.

- Jsaquella



its funny cause they always draft for size then in the 2006 draft every positional player other than Nodl were 6 foot or under including 3 dmen.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 14 @ 12:31 PM ET
He's no worse than the other forwards they're considering. The fans are waiting for the Iginla trade while I keep hearing Ryan Clowe linked to them.
- mayorofangrytown

Briere is no worse then Iginla or Clowe?
Huh?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:31 PM ET
its funny cause they always draft for size then in the 2006 draft every positional player other than Nodl were 6 foot or under including 3 dmen.
- nastyflyergirl


nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:31 PM ET
would anyone trade this years first for JBLOW?
- Philly1980



NO!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 12:32 PM ET
Realignment approved. Chicago must be thrilled. They are going to be stomping that division until the end of time.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:32 PM ET
Briere is no worse then Iginla or Clowe?
Huh?

- Marc D


Clowe has 0 goals and is a two time 20 goal scorer in 6 NHL seasons. Briere is better than him.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 14 @ 12:32 PM ET
Realignment approved. Chicago must be thrilled. They are going to be stomping that division until the end of time.
- Just5

Stupid stupid stupid.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:32 PM ET
Also, you really let me down last night MOAT. Was totally ready to agree with your rant about how Coburn took himself right out of the play on the Loktionov goal by sliding like that. But alas, the rant never came. For me personally, it was a bigger letdown than the final score.

- BringBack25

And by the way... What another asinine play! How many times have we seen that now!!! At least four times in the last dozen and games and you know what facedown on the ice sliding and flailing gets you? A goal in each and every circumstance!!!

How many times to you have to lay there with the other team celebrating looking like a jackass before you stop doing it!?!?!?!?! For all the gods sake, it was one of the times the forward actually caught up and covered the other side of the two on one.

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:33 PM ET
Briere is no worse then Iginla or Clowe?
Huh?

- Marc D

I mean money wise.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:33 PM ET
I think naming any guy captain under the age of about 28 is mistake.

Maybe Crosby is the exception.

And for those who are going to bring up Yzerman, it was a mistake to name him so early.

- Atomic Wedgie



Bob Clarke
strongsupporter
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 14 @ 12:33 PM ET
I would not. But I saw someone on Twitter who thinks that's who the Flyers need.
- Scoob[/quote
It was Sam Carcidi. I did a quick review of his stats compared to Kimmo and Mez
Goals per Game Career
Kimmo 1
JBo .94
Mez .92
Assists per Game Career
Kimmo .4
JBo .4
Mez .3
Plus/ Minus Career
Kimmo plus 31
JBo minus 56
Mez plus 38

I couldn't find JBo's playoff stats. You would think after 742 games, he must have played a playoff game. No?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 14 @ 12:34 PM ET
Clowe has 0 goals and is a two time 20 goal scorer in 6 NHL seasons. Briere is better than him.
- Jsaquella

I think if they are trying to replace Chris Kelley and want a physical presence then Clowe may be a better choice then Briere.

I hope they trade for Briere. Can't see Chiarelli doing it but I am often wrong.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Mar 14 @ 12:36 PM ET
And by the way... What another asinine play! How many times have we seen that now!!! At least four times in the last dozen and games and you know what facedown on the ice sliding and flailing gets you? A goal in each and every circumstance!!!

How many times to you have to lay there with the other team celebrating looking like a jackass before you stop doing it!?!?!?!?! For all the gods sake, it was one of the times the forward actually caught up and covered the other side of the two on one.


- mayorofangrytown


Couldn't agree more. And very eloquently stated as well sir. Well done.....


dude.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 14 @ 12:37 PM ET
Bob Clarke
- nastyflyergirl

I was waiting to see if someone else was going to mention Clarkie.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 12:38 PM ET
And by the way... What another asinine play! How many times have we seen that now!!! At least four times in the last dozen and games and you know what facedown on the ice sliding and flailing gets you? A goal in each and every circumstance!!!

How many times to you have to lay there with the other team celebrating looking like a jackass before you stop doing it!?!?!?!?! For all the gods sake, it was one of the times the forward actually caught up and covered the other side of the two on one.


- mayorofangrytown



And Schenn did it in a recent game. The only guy who seems adept at that is Timonen. But the D men should stop leaving their feet.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:39 PM ET

- Jsaquella

How'd it work out after that? I'm sure when they drafted Giroux they were thinking, "We'll get those Sabres!!!"
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Mar 14 @ 12:39 PM ET
And by the way... What another asinine play! How many times have we seen that now!!! At least four times in the last dozen and games and you know what facedown on the ice sliding and flailing gets you? A goal in each and every circumstance!!!

How many times to you have to lay there with the other team celebrating looking like a jackass before you stop doing it!?!?!?!?! For all the gods sake, it was one of the times the forward actually caught up and covered the other side of the two on one.


- mayorofangrytown


It's often been said (probably just by me) that the biggest reason why Coburn never became a true top pairing guy was because of his head.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:39 PM ET
Realignment approved. Chicago must be thrilled. They are going to be stomping that division until the end of time.
- Just5



and 8 of 14 teams make it in the west or and 8 of 16 in the east. dumb
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:39 PM ET
I was waiting to see if someone else was going to mention Clarkie.
- Flyskippy



yeah I am old
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:40 PM ET
Couldn't agree more. And very eloquently stated as well sir. Well done.....


dude.

- BringBack25

Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 14 @ 12:40 PM ET
Dustin Leed ‏@D_LEED
"Flyers have as good a chance to finish 29th overall (6.5%) as they currently do to qualify for the playoffs (6.9%)."


Time to start sucking some more! LOL
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 14 @ 12:40 PM ET
Realignment approved. Chicago must be thrilled. They are going to be stomping that division until the end of time.
- Just5

8 playoff teams out of 14 in the West, and 8 playoff teams from 16 in the East.

How will they make this fair?

leight again dmit
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 14 @ 12:41 PM ET
How'd it work out after that? I'm sure when they drafted Giroux they were thinking, "We'll get those Sabres!!!"
- mayorofangrytown


Outside of Giroux, who has made an impact from that draft?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 14 @ 12:41 PM ET
Stupid stupid stupid.
- jak521

I don't even care about the regular season changes, I just hate the divisional first round thing. Dumb dumb dumb.
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