NHL Draft Prospect Shea Theodore

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- ob18

who's the next crosby

there's a reason why he fell he can't score
- 2Real

His rookie season (offense & defense) says otherwise. He was also a shutdown center who shut down the league's top scorer in a playoff series. He's having a sophomore slump, you may have heard of them.

Remember Teemu Selanne, the guy who scored 76 goals as a rookie? The next season, he only scored 25. His rookie season must have been an anamoly, he'll never put up big numbers again. What a bust!

His rookie season (offense & defense) says otherwise. He was also a shutdown center who shut down the league's top scorer in a playoff series. He's having a sophomore slump, you may have heard of them.

Remember Teemu Selanne, the guy who scored 76 goals as a rookie? The next season, he only scored 25. His rookie season must have been an anamoly, he'll never put up big numbers again. What a bust!
- jmatchett

Mike Richards couldn't score either in his 2nd Season!

Mike Richards couldn't score either in his 2nd Season!

- MJL

For the record Richards scored 1 less goal and 1 less assist in his second year compared to his first year.

In 20 fewer games.

His rookie season (offense & defense) says otherwise. He was also a shutdown center who shut down the league's top scorer in a playoff series. He's having a sophomore slump, you may have heard of them.

Remember Teemu Selanne, the guy who scored 76 goals as a rookie? The next season, he only scored 25. His rookie season must have been an anamoly, he'll never put up big numbers again. What a bust!
- jmatchett

Pfft. Facts...

For the record Richards scored 1 less goal and 1 less assist in his second year compared to his first year.

In 20 fewer games.
- shekkie

I wouldn't call 10 goals lighting it up. Many said back then that he lacked offensive ability. Same as is being said about Couturier.

I wouldn't call 10 goals lighting it up. Many said back then that he lacked offensive ability. Same as is being said about Couturier.
- MJL

I agree with everything you just said but I was remarking on your previous post which was in response to a conversation regarding "sophomore slumps", which Richards is not a good example of.

I wouldn't call 10 goals lighting it up. Many said back then that he lacked offensive ability. Same as is being said about Couturier.
- MJL

And that Iginla character. Went from 21 goals 50 points to 13 goals and 32 points. Ship him off back to Dallas! Worthless!

His rookie season (offense & defense) says otherwise. He was also a shutdown center who shut down the league's top scorer in a playoff series. He's having a sophomore slump, you may have heard of them.

Remember Teemu Selanne, the guy who scored 76 goals as a rookie? The next season, he only scored 25. His rookie season must have been an anamoly, he'll never put up big numbers again. What a bust!
- jmatchett

That was a little different, He was injured and limped through a little over half a season.

Pfft. Facts...


- Flyskippy

And twisted facts at that.

That was a little different, He was injured and limped through a little over half a season.
- mayorofangrytown

He's injury prone!!! Get rid of him while he still has some value!!!

does anyone in here have a full understand yet of how the playoff seeding will work under the new realignment?
I know the top 3 teams in each division get the 1st 6 seeds, and the other 2 are up for grabs--- but who plays who???
Im gonna write down a quick point tally, because i want to fully understand how it works
Div 1
Boston: 120P (these wont be accurate so just go with me)
Montreal: 110P
Detroit: 105P
Toronto: 100P

Div 2
NYR: 122P
Pittsburgh: 112P
Philly: 103P
NJD: 99P

So who would play who??? I heard something about divisional playoffs?
My understanding: highest point totals-lowest point totals. Like NYR would play NJ, Bos would play TO, Pit vs Philly, Mon vs Det

am I right or wrong? Very confused right now. Hate the playoff format

And twisted facts at that.
- mayorofangrytown

No, I think we're all in agreement that, regardless of circumstances outside of your control such as injuries, linemates, ability of teammates to get you the puck, increased defensive coverage, team system, and time on ice, whatever happens in your second season is much more indicative of your potential than any other season

And that Iginla character. Went from 21 goals 50 points to 13 goals and 32 points. Ship him off back to Dallas! Worthless!
- jmatchett

Another player with a second year leg injury.

When a guy who is a projected #1 falls to #8, it's hard not to take him. Same reason Edmonton drafted Yakupov over Murray (turned out good so far due to Murray's injury). I think both players will turn out to be good players in their own way. Hamilton's immensely talented, but he also has the lowest +/- of any Bruins defenseman ona pretty stacked Bruins team (for whatever that's worth). Also, while I haven't seen a ton of him in the NHL, I tried to pay very close attention to him at the WJC this winter. I say tried, because he was never involved in the play. It's a small sample, but from what I saw of him in a winner-take-all tournament, he was rendered a non-factor after being one of the guys counted on. /end rant
- jmatchett

the fact that hamilton took only 1 yr to crack their lineup is a tremendous credit to him. hamilton and couts were ranked very close together. couts didn't show the growth in his final jr yr that some other guys did and that hurt him. some thought that was because he had mono. both rated w/in range of ea other. w/ all of the changes they made, getting a young dman of hamilton's caliber would have helped the flyers more going forward if they wern't willing/able to part w/ other assets to address this position.

does anyone in here have a full understand yet of how the playoff seeding will work under the new realignment?
I know the top 3 teams in each division get the 1st 6 seeds, and the other 2 are up for grabs--- but who plays who???
Im gonna write down a quick point tally, because i want to fully understand how it works
Div 1
Boston: 120P (these wont be accurate so just go with me)
Montreal: 110P
Detroit: 105P
Toronto: 100P

Div 2
NYR: 122P
Pittsburgh: 112P
Philly: 103P
NJD: 99P

So who would play who??? I heard something about divisional playoffs?
My understanding: highest point totals-lowest point totals. Like NYR would play NJ, Bos would play TO, Pit vs Philly, Mon vs Det

am I right or wrong? Very confused right now. Hate the playoff format
- FLYERSROCK!

Round 1
A. Boston vs. Toronto
A. Montreal vs. Detroit
B. NYR vs. NJD
B. Pitt vs. Philadelphia

Winners of each A would play in the 2nd round as well as the B winners. Then, the A champions would play the B champions in the Conf. Finals.

No, I think we're all in agreement that, regardless of circumstances outside of your control such as injuries, linemates, ability of teammates to get you the puck, increased defensive coverage, team system, and time on ice, whatever happens in your second season is much more indicative of your potential than any other season
- jmatchett

Your sarcasm is going to get some one to think you believe that. We all really know it's your fourth.

Another player with a second year leg injury.
- mayorofangrytown

this is creating an interesting pattern


how many players who are associated with having a sophomore slump had a significant injury in their second year.

We just mentioned 3 in Selanne, Iginla and Richards.

the fact that hamilton took only 1 yr to crack their lineup is a tremendous credit to him. hamilton and couts were ranked very close together. couts didn't show the growth in his final jr yr that some other guys did and that hurt him. some thought that was because he had mono. both rated w/in range of ea other. w/ all of the changes they made, getting a young dman of hamilton's caliber would have helped the flyers more going forward if they wern't willing/able to part w/ other assets to address this position.
- isaiah520

I'm just wondering why we're considering a guy a bust after about 100 games and clamoring for a guy who's putting up good production of a team that's dominating the majority of the league.

Round 1
A. Boston vs. Toronto
A. Montreal vs. Detroit
B. NYR vs. NJD
B. Pitt vs. Philadelphia

Winners of each A would play in the 2nd round as well as the B winners. Then, the A champions would play the B champions in the Conf. Finals.
- jmatchett

Weren't they adding a wild card round? I haven't even looked at it yet.

Your sarcasm is going to get some one to think you believe that. We all really know it's your fourth.
- mayorofangrytown

My fourth?

Weren't they adding a wild card round? I haven't even looked at it yet.
- mayorofangrytown

They toyed with having a wild card round for teams 7 vs. 10 and 8 vs. 9 in the existing system, but I hadn't heard that with realignment.

I'm just wondering why we're considering a guy a bust after about 100 games and clamoring for a guy who's putting up good production of a team that's dominating the majority of the league.
- jmatchett

i don't consider couts a bust, so i don't know what to tell you. just a soph slump. i wanted hamilton back when they drafted couts, but that's just my preference.

Also, I like Dougie Hamilton, for the record, and I actually expected them to pick him.
That said, dude's played about 25 NHL games. He could be the next Bobby Orr, or he could be the next Cam Barker, Ryan Whitney, Rostislav Klesla, Lars Jonsson, or Nick Boynton. Odds are he won't, but let's give each guy a few years before calling it a horrible oversight.

i don't consider couts a bust, so i don't know what to tell you. just a soph slump. i wanted hamilton back when they drafted couts, but that's just my preference.
- isaiah520

Well it started by someone saying he fell to 8th because he can't score. I was pointing to others who couldn't score as well in their sophomore season. They had injuries, Coots has had pretty bad linemates on a pretty terrible team. Last year, everyone was happy that we took him, and this year, he's one of the ones to bash. His production hasn't been there, and Hamilton looks nice right now. If Hamilton regresses and Coots rounds into form next year, it will be the reverse. People just need to be patient with a kid who can't even buy a beer yet playing against the best men in the world.