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UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 16 @ 9:00 AM ET
Tough loss for Bport last night...gave up the deciding goal on a PP in the final two minutes. DP let up three, but was pretty damn good...some unreal saves from the first all the way through.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 16 @ 10:40 AM ET
I can explain it..the martin cizikas and macdonald line are the perfect fourth line.. colin earned it..also this is the best 4th line we have had in years and has more points than our vaunted 2nd line..if you want to be like the penguins you need 4 good lines.... 1 and four an some of the third are good..its the second that is the issue
- NYI78

Agreed...Making one trade for a forward like Clowe and one call up, something like this might work:

1st line: Moulson-JT-Boyes
2nd Line: Clowe- Nelson- Grabner(when he gets back)
3rd line: Bailey-Neilsen-Okposo
4th line: Martin-Cizikas-McDonald

Nelson between two veterans players might help Nelson make the jump to the NHL...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 16 @ 10:42 AM ET
Agreed...Making one trade for a forward like Clowe and one call up, something like this might work:

1st line: Moulson-JT-Boyes
2nd Line: Clowe- Nelson- Grabner(when he gets back)
3rd line: Bailey-Neilsen-Okposo
4th line: Martin-Cizikas-McDonald

Nelson between two veterans players might help Nelson make the jump to the NHL...

- kear20

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 16 @ 10:42 AM ET
Tough loss for Bport last night...gave up the deciding goal on a PP in the final two minutes. DP let up three, but was pretty damn good...some unreal saves from the first all the way through.
- UIF

Really?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 16 @ 10:55 AM ET
Really?
- Cptmjl


Amazing when you can play games in the minors and get the rust out. Shame the Isles and DP did not think about this a few years ago. This whole situation was very badly botched. DP would have gotten a lot more support from the fans seeing he was trying to work things out in the minors and not hurting the big club.
Isles4fornow
New York Islanders
Location: East End, NY
Joined: 10.06.2010

Mar 16 @ 11:14 AM ET
Capuano needs to grasp this concept
- Cptmjl

Maybe they did...singed McDonald till 2015
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 16 @ 11:14 AM ET
Agreed...Making one trade for a forward like Clowe and one call up, something like this might work:

1st line: Moulson-JT-Boyes
2nd Line: Clowe- Nelson- Grabner(when he gets back)
3rd line: Bailey-Neilsen-Okposo
4th line: Martin-Cizikas-McDonald

Nelson between two veterans players might help Nelson make the jump to the NHL...

- kear20



I like what you have there, but I have to ask, I dont see anyone missing from the big club.. so who did we trade to get Clowe?

XxNYIxX
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 16 @ 11:16 AM ET
Maybe they did...singed McDonald till 2015
- Isles4fornow

I know it was in response to that. Just bcs they signed him didn't mean Capuano will utilize him properly
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 16 @ 12:10 PM ET
I like what you have there, but I have to ask, I dont see anyone missing from the big club.. so who did we trade to get Clowe?

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

I think San Jose wants a pick or defenseman for him...so I would offer a 3rd or 4th rd pick or Visnovski...
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 16 @ 12:12 PM ET

- Cptmjl

I guess you don't like Boyes...
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 16 @ 12:13 PM ET
I think San Jose wants a pick or defenseman for him...so I would offer a 3rd or 4th rd pick or Visnovski...
- kear20


Id hope we could do it with picks, because I think Vis can bring us more, plus the fact that when we trade vis.. it leave a really big hole on our back end.. the guy has been nothing short of miraculous since he got here.

XxNYIxX
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 16 @ 12:15 PM ET
I guess you don't like Boyes...
- kear20

Boyes sucks
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 16 @ 12:16 PM ET
Id hope we could do it with picks, because I think Vis can bring us more, plus the fact that when we trade vis.. it leave a really big hole on our back end.. the guy has been nothing short of miraculous since he got here.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

I hate the guy but he has been effective. We may get a good return for him.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 16 @ 12:51 PM ET
Amazing when you can play games in the minors and get the rust out. Shame the Isles and DP did not think about this a few years ago. This whole situation was very badly botched. DP would have gotten a lot more support from the fans seeing he was trying to work things out in the minors and not hurting the big club.
- ses111

Totally agree. it's amazing when you consider the irony that our general manager was once in NHL goaltender yet seemingly mishandled the situation so badly. In addition Nabby is playing too many game. No back up is going to perform well when your starter plays more than 9 consecutive games
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
Totally agree. it's amazing when you consider the irony that our general manager was once in NHL goaltender yet seemingly mishandled the situation so badly. In addition Nabby is playing too many game. No back up is going to perform well when your starter plays more than 9 consecutive games
- keaner17


Perfect example why Snow does not get the benefit of the doubt. Regarding the backup this is why I do not get on Poulin. He needs to play not just sit and watch. Young goalies especially need the work. Isles keep doing the same thing with Poulin then some fans wonder why he is not sharp.
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Mar 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
If they could ever just grasp what they did in the third against Tampa, and in the second period against New Jersey a few weeks ago, and understand that this is how they need to play all the time, they can be a decent team. They just need to play consistent defense.
- dcb1


The Tampa game was probably the most committed I've seen them to defense that I can remember.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 16 @ 1:19 PM ET
Id hope we could do it with picks, because I think Vis can bring us more, plus the fact that when we trade vis.. it leave a really big hole on our back end.. the guy has been nothing short of miraculous since he got here.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

Agreed Viz has done well with the Islanders but does he want to stay? I don't think he does because I would think Snow would want to sign him instead of Streit. CLowe for a 3rd or 4th rd pick would work I would think. Even Hickey for him would be a good trade even though I think Hickey has done well ( a little small) and has upside...
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 16 @ 1:20 PM ET
Boyes sucks
- Cptmjl

Not according to Snow...he is the prototype of power forwards...
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 16 @ 1:29 PM ET
Agreed Viz has done well with the Islanders but does he want to stay? I don't think he does because I would think Snow would want to sign him instead of Streit. CLowe for a 3rd or 4th rd pick would work I would think. Even Hickey for him would be a good trade even though I think Hickey has done well ( a little small) and has upside...
- kear20


I have to think Vish still wants to be traded. This trade deadline cannot get here fast enough. I want to see what the Isles do especially if they are still in it.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 16 @ 1:33 PM ET
I have to think Vish still wants to be traded. This trade deadline cannot get here fast enough. I want to see what the Isles do especially if they are still in it.
- ses111

Agreed but he did rent a house on LI and brought his family over.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 16 @ 1:35 PM ET
Agreed but he did rent a house on LI and brought his family over.
- kear20


I'd love to be able to sign Vish and trade Steit. I'd rather not have both back. I do not want the same d next year.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 16 @ 3:50 PM ET
I'd love to be able to sign Vish and trade Steit. I'd rather not have both back. I do not want the same d next year.
- ses111

While Streit is good on the powerplay, the rest of his game is lacking. Snow however seems to think otherwise. Defensemen signed for next year are Carkner, MacDonald, Strait, Finley and probably Streit. Hamonic and Hickey are restricted free agents and probably would be signed. So it looks like pretty much the same...don't think Reinhardt is ready yet and I would like to see Donovan get a shot.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 16 @ 4:20 PM ET
While Streit is good on the powerplay, the rest of his game is lacking. Snow however seems to think otherwise. Defensemen signed for next year are Carkner, MacDonald, Strait, Finley and probably Streit. Hamonic and Hickey are restricted free agents and probably would be signed. So it looks like pretty much the same...don't think Reinhardt is ready yet and I would like to see Donovan get a shot.
- kear20


I'd love to have Reinhardt make it next year but that may not happen. Donovan should be up next year. I'd like to see Finley back in the lineup this year. I do not think he played badly.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 16 @ 4:24 PM ET
I'd love to have Reinhardt make it next year but that may not happen. Donovan should be up next year. I'd like to see Finley back in the lineup this year. I do not think he played badly.
- ses111


Reinhart will most definitely spend time in Bridgeport next season. Depending on how much better his skating gets will ultimately decide if he plays with the Isles at all by then. I think both Reinhart and Mayfield will see time with the Isles in 2015.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 16 @ 4:37 PM ET
Reinhart will most definitely spend time in Bridgeport next season. Depending on how much better his skating gets will ultimately decide if he plays with the Isles at all by then. I think both Reinhart and Mayfield will see time with the Isles in 2015.
- keaner17


While it's very tough on waiting for the prospects I do not want to hear about how we rushed kids like Bailey anymore. Isles at this stage need to find a way to have enough talent on the big club. Especially this offseason with many teams needing to get under the Cap the Isles should be able to add talent so the kids are not rushed. Snow and company will have a hard time making excuses for not being able to bring in decent talent with the Isles way under the Cap and having picks and propsects to make deals.
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