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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 17 @ 4:49 PM ET
I watched it last night....can't believe he stayed on his feet.....the Vargas fight was great too
- KINGKENZO

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 17 @ 4:49 PM ET
I agree we have good org. And I love the fact we are bold but be honest. Nationally it's been the same thing for 30 years!!!! Goaltending and defense!!! That's all I was referring to as laughing stocks. Come on we had lindros,recchi,brindamour,etc... And couldn't win a cup. That's as bad as buffalo not winning cup with hasek.
- SMS4016

Because all you need are a few pieces in place.

Winning a Cup is like grocery shopping! I'll take this....this.....anndddd...thissss...and this.....and then you checkout and win!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 17 @ 4:50 PM ET
unfortunately my tongue is sore from being clenched between my teeth these days... my eardrums are in turn perforated so to speak.
- JoeRussomanno


I mean, the Flyers have made mistakes, but they've generally been made trying to win a Stanley Cup, not by trying to save a nickel. When you make bold and aggressive moves, you're going to make a mistake or two.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 17 @ 4:50 PM ET
I hold you to a higher standard
- JoeRussomanno

....I'll take it
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 17 @ 4:51 PM ET
That part I agree with wholeheartedly. Actually, I'm one of the few not suggesting that it's absolutely vital to get a number one defenseman at any cost.
- Jsaquella


agree 100%. you just need the right balance

perfect example - lava's canes
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 17 @ 4:52 PM ET
i'm still a boxing fan, but i missed last night. heard it was an exciting fight (heard the undercard fight before it was pretty good too)
- FlyerMike18

def worth a watch
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 17 @ 4:52 PM ET
Because all you need are a few pieces in place.

Winning a Cup is like grocery shopping! I'll take this....this.....anndddd...thissss...and this.....and then you checkout and win!

- Giroux_Is_God

He forgot that Boston couldn't win with Bourque, St. Louis couldn't win with Hull and Oates, la couldn't win with... Oh nevermind...
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 17 @ 4:52 PM ET
I mean, the Flyers have made mistakes, but they've generally been made trying to win a Stanley Cup, not by trying to save a nickel. When you make bold and aggressive moves, you're going to make a mistake or two.
- Jsaquella

yea, but banner won the capbowl several years running so...
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 17 @ 4:53 PM ET
yea, but banner won the capbowl several years running so...
- isaiah520


take it easy....that's the gold-standard of the nfl you're talking about
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 17 @ 4:54 PM ET
yea, but banner won the capbowl several years running so...
- isaiah520


Wonder how he's enjoying the smell of the Cuyahoga
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Mar 17 @ 4:54 PM ET
That part I agree with wholeheartedly. Actually, I'm one of the few not suggesting that it's absolutely vital to get a number one defenseman at any cost.
- Jsaquella


Who knows, maybe if we had a more structured system, (players to buy in on it), it would be different, I think another top 4 D man is paramount for next year though, (not necessarily a #1), as the cost would weaken another area/position on the team.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 17 @ 4:54 PM ET
He forgot that Boston couldn't win with Bourque, St. Louis couldn't win with Hull and Oates, la couldn't win with... Oh nevermind...
- JoeRussomanno

but they made Sara Smile and sang about their dreams coming true, so i'm confused
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 17 @ 4:55 PM ET
take it easy....that's the gold-standard of the nfl you're talking about
- FlyerMike18

gold filled
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 17 @ 4:55 PM ET
Wonder how he's enjoying the smell of the Cuyahoga
- Jsaquella

you mean the stench
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 17 @ 4:56 PM ET
I mean, the Flyers have made mistakes, but they've generally been made trying to win a Stanley Cup, not by trying to save a nickel. When you make bold and aggressive moves, you're going to make a mistake or two.
- Jsaquella

The front office has put together some impressive teams, and six or seven finals appearances since their last championship is nothing to scoff at. If the Eagles went to the superbowl but lost every 5 years those idiots would be admiring from their closets. Going head to head against IMO the best team of all time twice while losing what could have been the best goalie of that era to a tragic accident is beyond their control. But if you bring that up it's making excuses or being a homer. Whatever I enjoy the team for the most part. Of all the teams in that city they give you by far, the biggest bang for your buck period.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Mar 17 @ 4:56 PM ET
I mean, the Flyers have made mistakes, but they've generally been made trying to win a Stanley Cup, not by trying to save a nickel. When you make bold and aggressive moves, you're going to make a mistake or two.
- Jsaquella



Agreed! imagine the crying if they weren't aggressive.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 17 @ 4:57 PM ET
Who knows, maybe if we had a more structured system, (players to buy in on it), it would be different, I think another top 4 D man is paramount for next year though, (not necessarily a #1), as the cost would weaken another area/position on the team.
- puckhead17


It depends on what happens with the coach and other changes made between now and camp.

If they miss the playoffs, it's not impossible that they don't have a different GM and coach.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 17 @ 4:57 PM ET
Come on guys be serious. With all the talented teams we've had the last 30 years you have to admit it's sad we haven't won even one cup in that time. Yes we've had alot of success and alot of good Runs and it's been exciting but not winning at least one cup and for the same reason always ( goaltending or defense) does make us a little bit of a laughing stock. Yes alot of teams would trade places with us but still... How the Hell haven't we gotten even one!!!!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
but they made Sara Smile and sang about their dreams coming true, so i'm confused
- isaiah520

You're not confused...
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
The front office has put together some impressive teams, and six or seven finals appearances since their last championship is nothing to scoff at. If the Eagles went to the superbowl but lost every 5 years those idiots would be admiring from their closets. Going head to head against IMO the best team of all time twice while losing what could have been the best goalie of that era to a tragic accident is beyond their control. But if you bring that up it's making excuses or being a homer. Whatever I enjoy the team for the most part. Of all the teams in that city they give you by far, the biggest bang for your buck period.
- JoeRussomanno

two of the best teams of all time if you count the late 70's Habs
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
I mean, the Flyers have made mistakes, but they've generally been made trying to win a Stanley Cup, not by trying to save a nickel. When you make bold and aggressive moves, you're going to make a mistake or two.
- Jsaquella

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 17 @ 4:59 PM ET
Come on guys be serious. With all the talented teams we've had the last 30 years you have to admit it's sad we haven't won even one cup in that time. Yes we've had alot of success and alot of good Runs and it's been exciting but not winning at least one cup and for the same reason always ( goaltending or defense) does make us a little bit of a laughing stock. Yes alot of teams would trade places with us but still... How the Hell haven't we gotten even one!!!!
- SMS4016

so being a fan of a team that hasn't won a cup in 30 years makes us a laughing stock... sure Fine laugh away world, I will sit here and play violin while one of you plays harp, who's singing blues?
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Mar 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
It depends on what happens with the coach and other changes made between now and camp.

If they miss the playoffs, it's not impossible that they don't have a different GM and coach.

- Jsaquella


Coach has 2 years left?, (I couldn't imagine Homer going), but yea, anythings possible, seems radical in a lockout shortened season, but you never know what Snider is feeling.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 17 @ 5:01 PM ET
two of the best teams of all time if you count the late 70's Habs
- isaiah520

oh yea and the early 80's islanders weren't too shabby either. Getting back to 76 tho, losing bernie to injury wasn't exactly luck.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 17 @ 5:03 PM ET
Coach has 2 years left?, (I couldn't imagine Homer going), but yea, anythings possible, seems radical in a lockout shortened season, but you never know what Snider is feeling.
- puckhead17


I think if they lost both against NJ, Laviolette would have been fired by now.

I could see Holmgren walking the plank, too. I'm sure Ron Hextall could have his arm twisted to return.
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