He can do what Briere does which is absolutely nothing.
- stveshdy

He's been doing that for years.

Coots and Mez for Tyler Myers and Drew Stafford? Any interest?
- KATG

no
- ob18

Explain. Curious thoughts?

He's been doing that for years.
- ob18

Don't diss Shelley yo'. Been in the league for many years collecting a paycheck. The guy is crucial for keeping a locker room together and showing these young chumps how to work hard.

Explain. Curious thoughts?
- KATG

It doesn't solve the problem they can't play defense as a TEAM which if they could the defense they have now wouldn't look that bad.

not exactly an even comparison, imo, but the overall point is valid. no reason to trade a high end prospect for a guy like talbot

if i'm homer though, i don't trade him to the pens otherwise (so talbot wouldn't be going back to pitt)
- FlyerMike18

The problem is, every year we see a stupid deadline trade or two where teams looking at short term possibilities make deals they otherwise wouldn't.

That said, Talbot for Maatta is unlikely.

Don't diss Shelley yo'. Been in the league for many years collecting a paycheck. The guy is crucial for keeping a locker room together and showing these young chumps how to work hard.
- stveshdy

Yes he has been but that's more as a punching bag.

It doesn't solve the problem they can't play defense as a TEAM which if they could the defense they have now wouldn't look that bad.
- ob18

That's not going to change anytime soon. So the other option is to get more mobility on the blueline to play this style.

I wouldn't make that deal with Buffalo either. Myers doesn't impress me at all.

Would you deal B. Schenn for Yandle straight up?
- stveshdy

Absolutely

Yes he has been but that's more as a punching bag.
- ob18

Players love and respect Mr.Shelley. His wisdom is worth the price.

That's not going to change anytime soon. So the other option is to get more mobility on the blueline to play this style.

I wouldn't make that deal with Buffalo either. Myers doesn't impress me at all.
- stveshdy

I like him but I don't see him as something to solve the bigger problem.

Coots and Mez for Tyler Myers and Drew Stafford? Any interest?
- KATG

Oh hell no

Absolutely
- Just5

Word up!

Players love and respect Mr.Shelley. His wisdom is worth the price.
- stveshdy

You can like him but he is no longer needed in today's game.

It doesn't solve the problem they can't play defense as a TEAM which if they could the defense they have now wouldn't look that bad.
- ob18

I agree with that. However, I do think there is a glaring hole in our Dman long term. The young hopeful #1 is no where to be found in the system. Myers is exactly the D equivalent of Coots right now. I see it as a hockey trade, position of strength for position of need.

You can like him but he is no longer needed in today's game.
- ob18

I'm amazed your sarcasm meter isn't going off

I'm amazed your sarcasm meter isn't going off
- Jsaquella

Can't I play along

I agree with that. However, I do think there is a glaring hole in our Dman long term. The young hopeful #1 is no where to be found in the system. Myers is exactly the D equivalent of Coots right now. I see it as a hockey trade, position of strength for position of need.
- KATG

I wouldn't do it, others would.

I'm amazed your sarcasm meter isn't going off
- Jsaquella

Everything I've said about Shelley is true. The guy is good for the locker room. The example he sets in practice is good for the team. No?

I agree with that. However, I do think there is a glaring hole in our Dman long term. The young hopeful #1 is no where to be found in the system. Myers is exactly the D equivalent of Coots right now. I see it as a hockey trade, position of strength for position of need.
- KATG

Problem is Myers has a huge contract and I'd still an unknown quantity. That's huge

Problem is Myers has a huge contract and I'd still an unknown quantity. That's huge
- Just5

Go get Yandle.

I agree with that. However, I do think there is a glaring hole in our Dman long term. The young hopeful #1 is no where to be found in the system. Myers is exactly the D equivalent of Coots right now. I see it as a hockey trade, position of strength for position of need.
- KATG

I disagree, strongly, that Myers is the defenseman equivalent of Couturier.

Couturier is in his second season, has a modest contract that has a short term, and is likely mired in a sophomore slump.

Myers is in his 4th season. His level of play has declined in each season from his rookie year and he's locked in to a huge contract, with 6 years left after this one, at $5.5mm per.

The problem is, every year we see a stupid deadline trade or two where teams looking at short term possibilities make deals they otherwise wouldn't.

That said, Talbot for Maatta is unlikely.
- Jsaquella

that would be great if homer could broker an overpayment like that

Everything I've said about Shelley is true. The guy is good for the locker room. The example he sets in practice is good for the team. No?
- stveshdy

Shelley's wonderful for a good team that has the luxury. He's worthless for a team that is in what looks to be a losing fight to make the playoffs.

I disagree, strongly, that Myers is the defenseman equivalent of Couturier.

Couturier is in his second season, has a modest contract that has a short term, and is likely mired in a sophomore slump.

Myers is in his 4th season. His level of play has declined in each season from his rookie year and he's locked in to a huge contract, with 6 years left after this one, at $5.5mm per.
- Jsaquella

Healthy scratch for a couple of games this season. Dude is a fraud. As stated he hasn't improved at all. He's getting worse each year.