Chars got rag dolled all period nice to see his reign coming to an end

Given Read's upcoming UFA status I think they'll demand a 1st if he is the player coming back. If Read and the 2014 1st could do it I'd consider it, but I think that is unlikely. Schenn or Coots for JBo I'm not really interested in.
- hereticpride

If they want a 1st and Read, I tell them no thanks.

My bad, with so many teams in it I think as they said on the hotstove last night cost is just high.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/...tove/video/#id=2347299707
- ob18

Someone tell Briere to get his apron hot stove warming up!!

I don't know, but every time they attempted to trade it was Schenn or Courturier and they wanted nothing of it. Now teams mainly start with Courturier & they won't budge but how many young forwards can you have? Especially with the prospect of not having a descent top 4 defense next year?
Edit. Imagine how bad our D would be if they didn't make the JVR for Luke Schenn deal?
- puckhead17

you still don't know any of this. This is pure speculation, minus the edit.

you still don't know any of this. This is pure speculation, minus the edit.
- JoeRussomanno

It's speculation, but the chances of landing a good defenseman without moving Couturier, Schenn, Read, Voracek or Simmonds is virtually nil.

Frederik Gauthier - (F) Rimouski, QMJHL

ISS - "Strong 2-way power forward. Shows high level of understanding for the physics of the game." & "Powerful skater mature beyond years. Excellent offensive intelligence, defensive/physical upside."

It's speculation, but the chances of landing a good defenseman without moving Couturier, Schenn, Read, Voracek or Simmonds is virtually nil.
- Jsaquella

That's not my point. My point is, how do we know what was/wasn't offered for Weber? The fact is we don't know, and quite frankly, I feel safe thinking they offered those guys(Couturier, schenn) for Weber and Nashville still said no. Either way nobody knows except for the team executives that sat in on the calls.

Someone tell Briere to get his apron hot stove warming up!!
- Just5

Bunch of hot air to get ratings to sell air time to advertisers.

That's not my point. My point is, how do we know what was/wasn't offered for Weber? The fact is we don't know, and quite frankly, I feel safe thinking they offered those guys(Couturier, schenn) for Weber and Nashville still said no. Either way nobody knows except for the team executives that sat in on the calls.
- JoeRussomanno

I'm sure that Nashville, if asked, demanded Couturier and/or Schenn and that resulted in the offer sheet.

Is there a date for the draft lottery?

Is there a date for the draft lottery?
- Just5

April 29th I believe

you still don't know any of this. This is pure speculation, minus the edit.
- JoeRussomanno

again, no, but process of elimination, Nashville wasn't holding out for Briere, what do you think they would have wanted in trade, as well, I think it may have been Eklund that used schenn or courturier as examples of what the Preds wanted, (not sure).

everytime I read or have read "trade rumors" involving us in the last 2 seasons other teams wanted schenn or courturier involved, I think that was more than 1/2 a$$ speculation.

That's where I was yesterday, we have centers I love Courturier but the return in trade would help a badly needed area cough cough top 4 defenseman
A 3rd line with talbot is fine for the next, what, 3/4 seasons?

Wouldn't trade coburn or any D man, that's a weak area right now, but imagine going back to the Weber thing, not wanting to part with Courturier or Schenn for a Weber was ridiculous, just not sure how much more Nashville wanted, but when you have a surplus of young centers (Schenn Giroux Courturier & i will say Talbot because he's under 30 & a solid 3rd line center also maybe Laughton) and now faced with the issue of your defense not being good enough.

Edit
Playoffs? Our best defenseman is 38 & Mez has become an injury waiting to happen
- puckhead17

if we could get a top young guy, i'd part w/ a guy like coby if need be. i consider grossmann and schenn to be the only core D pieces going forward. prefer to keep coby of course, but...

Sell off what? Fedotenko and Briere is all that comes to mind
- Just5

Won't know until teams start calling. Any player is available in the right deal.

I'm sure that Nashville, if asked, demanded Couturier and/or Schenn and that resulted in the offer sheet.
- Jsaquella

if that was all it took, you don't think the Flyers would have bit on that? It be pretty dumb not to. It seemed more like the Flyers were the ones who made the desperation move with that offer sheet, in hindsight.

Supposedly the asking price for Bouwmeester is Couturier or Schenn or Read +.

If I'm the Flyers, I think really hard about agreeing to move Read, so long as that + isn't their first rounder.
- Jsaquella

I would pass on any deal for Jay Bo. The Flyers aren't going anywhere this year. I would look at other options during the offseason.

again, no, but process of elimination, Nashville wasn't holding out for Briere, what do you think they would have wanted in trade, as well, I think it may have been Eklund that used schenn or courturier as examples of what the Preds wanted, (not sure).

everytime I read or have read "trade rumors" involving us in the last 2 seasons other teams wanted schenn or courturier involved, I think that was more than 1/2 a$$ speculation.
- puckhead17

Trade rumors have a real low % of coming to fruition. But if you wanna base your speculations and assumptions on them then be my guest.

Agree 100%. A kid like Nurse or Morrissey isn't gong to come in a solve any issues for at least a few years. And I serverly doubt we go after a guy like Streit in FA. We have a bunch of guys who can play center. Got to move one with decent trade value that wont hurt the team as much as the others. I think that is Schenn personally, although I would hate to breakup the brothers I think Coots is the guy to keep considering team defense seems to be our biggest issue.

I'd look at a team like the Jets. They have Enstrom, Bogo & Buff but not a whole lot of talent up front. I don't think they have interest in moving Enstrom but Bogo or Buff I could see them parting with in the right deal. Wouldn't do Schenn and this year's 1st though. Schenn and the 2014 1st for one of those guys I'm ok with. Then take the best winger or D man available with this year's 1st.
- hereticpride

i think WPG is only adding at this point. they are coming of age and have solid playoff chances. it would be a boon for the franchise.

Trade rumors have a real low % of coming to fruition. But if you wanna base your speculations and assumptions on them then be my guest.
- JoeRussomanno

I guess your saying guys like Eklund Dreger MacKenzie etc are bogus, they deal in rumors everyday, thats why particular sources are what you tend to listen to & put more stock in.

ok we will use your belief, a trade for Weber would have never been consummated,
& we will never know why nor whom was offered or what they wanted.

I would pass on any deal for Jay Bo. The Flyers aren't going anywhere this year. I would look at other options during the offseason.
- stveshdy

I agree.

Lets get past this bad JBo idea and discuss other, more sensible, avenues.

Trade rumors have a real low % of coming to fruition. But if you wanna base your speculations and assumptions on them then be my guest.
- JoeRussomanno

i'll give you speculation. when the flyers had the #8 pick, was there a young dman available (besides dougie of course) who could have been had? maybe homer thought about it and then remembered eminger.

I agree.

Lets get past this bad JBo idea and discuss other, more sensible, avenues.
- 77rams

I think the Flyers can find a better option if they are patient. JBo can skate the puck which would be a bonus for this club. I'm just not a fan of giving up top picks or a core forward to get him and that cap hit. Look elsewhere.

I guess your saying guys like Eklund Dreger MacKenzie etc are bogus, they deal in rumors everyday, thats why particular sources are what you tend to listen to & put more stock in.

ok we will use your belief, a trade for Weber would have never been consummated,
& we will never know why nor whom was offered or what they wanted.
- puckhead17

I never said they were bogus, only that perhaps you fail to realize what they are. They report what they hear. That has been demonstrated and explained ad nausea um to not be taken for gospel as you are doing. Reason being is there is a lot of smoke and mirrors involved. Furthermore you are safely assuming that COut/Schenn or both were not offered by the Flyers while overlooking that it might have taken more than them from Nashville to acquire the rights to Weber. Furthermore what happened in a botched trade transaction last summer has little to no bearing whatsoever on any possible future transactions.

i'll give you speculation. when the flyers had the #8 pick, was there a young dman available (besides dougie of course) who could have been had? maybe homer thought about it and then remembered eminger.
- isaiah520

I would have taken hamilton, and if all it took to get weber was to move two guys that the FLyers basically draft every year in the first round, then homer should be in the unemployment line and snider should be resigned as what the hell ever he is these days.

I think the Flyers can find a better option if they are patient. JBo can skate the puck which would be a bonus for this club. I'm just not a fan of giving up top picks or a core forward to get him and that cap hit. Look elsewhere.
- stveshdy

If you're trying to convince me, you're preachin' to the choir.