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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 6:50 PM ET
Never, actually. Not my style.
- Flyskippy

That's what I thought. Just a tiny bit disappointing.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 18 @ 6:51 PM ET
Yeah, he's going to jump at a chance to sign here and play with the guy that turned his back on the UNO team.
- Jsaquella


meant more in terms of our front office-the program. obviously not expecting it to mean we're a shoe in, but some familiarity

i wasn't even thinking of the possibility of a personal relationship between the two players. that said, i doubt that would be a negative. this kid is jumping early to go to the nhl...i'd think that players in that situation know it's more about career development than anything else
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 18 @ 6:51 PM ET
I know.. I wasn't talking about you personally.. I was referring more to the general blind faith on this site that a lot of flyers fans have on here. ( bill says something, everyone agrees) flyers make a move ( no one questions it) maybe not ( everyone) but definitely most. E.j. On NHL live top 5 today had top 5 buyouts... Surprise surprise briere #5 bryz #1. Lol
- SMS4016

Most media are not focused on truth any longer, but profit.

Anyone thinking of buying out Bryz better have a solution in net because the 2010 tandem 2.0 isn't it.

It's awfully short-sighted to think Bryz is the issue this year when the team consistently gives up a lot of chances, a lot of quality chances, and a lot of odd-man rushes; while also having a tougher time with Breakouts than a one-handed kid in the 80's with no Atari 2600. The team has Bryz to thank for the wins it *does* have.

/Atari2600reference
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:51 PM ET
He said that he was untrustworthy and that the Flyers will never win with him and that the amnesty buyout without a doubt can and will be used on him after the season.
- MBFlyerfan




Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 6:52 PM ET
He said that he was untrustworthy and that the Flyers will never win with him and that the amnesty buyout without a doubt can and will be used on him after the season.
- MBFlyerfan


It's a possibility. I just don't like a lot of what is out there. It's well and good to say you're going to buy the guy out, but how do you replace him?

Do you overspend to acquire a Bernier and hope that he can be a full time starter? Do you throw a pooppot full of money at a guy like Emery? I doubt he signs a small deal this summer, if Chicago even lets him it free agency.

I wouldn't even rush to a decision on Bryzgalov this summer. The only thing buying him out this summer guarantees is more cap room to start free agency.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 18 @ 6:52 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

No surprise, but Andrej Sustr, 6-foot-8 Univ of Nebraska-Omaha junior dman (UFA), has officially decided to leave school/field NHL offers.

- ob18


Well. He would immediately be inserted into our 3rd pairing if he wants the ice time
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 18 @ 6:53 PM ET
He said that he was untrustworthy and that the Flyers will never win with him and that the amnesty buyout without a doubt can and will be used on him after the season.
- MBFlyerfan


I was in the "buy out Breeze" camp until talent evaluator extraordinaire, Mike Milbury, stepped up with his insight. Now I'm not so sure
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 6:53 PM ET
It was the same when Boucher set the NHL record with 5 straight shutouts. Still a career backup.

The Flyers signed Bryzgalov to a long ass deal, there was no reasonable expectation for them to keep Bob. It's a shame that Laviolette mishandled the goalies bad enough for Snider to issue a declaration.

It's a bigger shame that they immediately re-signed Leighton instead of getting a solid starter, so Bob could play in the AHL for a year or two.

- Jsaquella

Laviolette really took his opinion of the goalie situation and rubbed management's face in it.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 18 @ 6:54 PM ET
It's a possibility. I just don't like a lot of what is out there. It's well and good to say you're going to buy the guy out, but how do you replace him?

Do you overspend to acquire a Bernier and hope that he can be a full time starter? Do you throw a pooppot full of money at a guy like Emery? I doubt he signs a small deal this summer, if Chicago even lets him it free agency.

I wouldn't even rush to a decision on Bryzgalov this summer. The only thing buying him out this summer guarantees is more cap room to start free agency.

- Jsaquella


somehow, someway, tim thomas will be a flyer. i just know it
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 18 @ 6:54 PM ET
Well. He would immediately be inserted into our 3rd pairing if he wants the ice time
- Just5

Heh, heh... You said insert...

Something our D needs.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:54 PM ET
It's a possibility. I just don't like a lot of what is out there. It's well and good to say you're going to buy the guy out, but how do you replace him?

Do you overspend to acquire a Bernier and hope that he can be a full time starter? Do you throw a pooppot full of money at a guy like Emery? I doubt he signs a small deal this summer, if Chicago even lets him it free agency.

I wouldn't even rush to a decision on Bryzgalov this summer. The only thing buying him out this summer guarantees is more cap room to start free agency.

- Jsaquella


They could settle with Nabokov or Backstrom on 1-2 year deals. Not sure what the price will cost though.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 6:54 PM ET
meant more in terms of our front office-the program. obviously not expecting it to mean we're a shoe in, but some familiarity

i wasn't even thinking of the possibility of a personal relationship between the two players. that said, i doubt that would be a negative. this kid is jumping early to go to the nhl...i'd think that players in that situation know it's more about career development than anything else

- FlyerMike18


I know, just joking.

I think there will be a few teams that can offer him an immediate NHL job. That's a possible factor. I believe it was a factor for Justin Schultz, too.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Mar 18 @ 6:54 PM ET
Well. He would immediately be inserted into our 3rd pairing if he wants the ice time
- Just5


from the game I saw, he is a bit slow in decisionmaking. Can't see him making the jump right away. Well, on second thought, maybe he'd fit right in.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 18 @ 6:54 PM ET
Well. He would immediately be inserted into our 3rd pairing if he wants the ice time
- Just5


Guys like this tend to get promised that they will be allowed to burn a year of their contract by staying in NHL

I'm open to it honestly, it's what they'll have to do to land him.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 18 @ 6:55 PM ET
Never, actually. Not my style.
- Flyskippy

At some point all of us post something we feel strongly about and are totally wrong about. Ie bryz trades player evaluations or whatever. And when we are wroNg there is nothing wrong with someone pointing out what a dumb a$$ we are for our mistake. I don't take oFfense I hope no one else does by what I post. If so I apologize I guess I'm just a little twiSted that way
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 6:55 PM ET
They could settle with Nabokov or Backstrom on 1-2 year deals. Not sure what the price will cost though.
- stveshdy


Injury prone and older. Unless the savings are significant, why not just use Bryz for one more year?

Buying him out in summer of 2014 shortens the payout by two years
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 18 @ 6:55 PM ET
Laviolette really took his opinion of the goalie situation and rubbed management's face in it.
- mayorofangrytown

He felt the best method of dealing with it was to Boosh it.

/manurepun
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 18 @ 6:56 PM ET
I know, just joking.

I think there will be a few teams that can offer him an immediate NHL job. That's a possible factor. I believe it was a factor for Justin Schultz, too.

- Jsaquella


i think i can name one
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:56 PM ET
Injury prone and older. Unless the savings are significant, why not just use Bryz for one more year?
- Jsaquella


They could go that route as well but there is no guarantee they get anything the following year thats any better.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 6:57 PM ET
somehow, someway, tim thomas will be a flyer. i just know it
- FlyerMike18


Possible. If he's committed to playing, and puts the team first, rather than himself, I have zero issue with him.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:58 PM ET
I hope we get a good 60 minute effort from the boys tonight. they're rested and have plenty of rest coming up. no reason not to give a full effort.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:59 PM ET
I hope we get a good 60 minute effort from the boys tonight. they're rested and have plenty of rest coming up. no reason not to give a full effort.
- flyerscup2011




Your expecting too much.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 18 @ 6:59 PM ET
At some point all of us post something we feel strongly about and are totally wrong about. Ie bryz trades player evaluations or whatever. And when we are wroNg there is nothing wrong with someone pointing out what a dumb a$$ we are for our mistake. I don't take oFfense I hope no one else does by what I post. If so I apologize I guess I'm just a little twiSted that way
- SMS4016


I just like the random cApitals letteRs!
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 7:01 PM ET
It's a possibility. I just don't like a lot of what is out there. It's well and good to say you're going to buy the guy out, but how do you replace him?

Do you overspend to acquire a Bernier and hope that he can be a full time starter? Do you throw a pooppot full of money at a guy like Emery? I doubt he signs a small deal this summer, if Chicago even lets him it free agency.

I wouldn't even rush to a decision on Bryzgalov this summer. The only thing buying him out this summer guarantees is more cap room to start free agency.

- Jsaquella

There are apparently plenty of goalies who are going to be available at the trade deadline or in the off season. I don't think it's a real stretch to think you could pull in one of them to put up the same stats at a reduced cost.

He's certainly not carrying the team and the team's given him spotty support at best. I'd certainly have to be considering it but it would have to come in a series of moves that upgraded my defense and required me to free up cap space. Otherwise I'm probably torn this off season. If I don't think i can make the moves to make this team a Cup contender in the off season why wait a year?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 7:02 PM ET
Guys like this tend to get promised that they will be allowed to burn a year of their contract by staying in NHL

I'm open to it honestly, it's what they'll have to do to land him.

- ob18

You can't do that under the new CBA I heard.
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