Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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They could go that route as well but there is no guarantee they get anything the following year thats any better. - stveshdy
True. At the same time, they get a year closer to seeing if Stolarz is ready, and the possible crop of FA goalies is better than this one is shaping up than this summer, especially if the rumors that Howard will be re-signed in Detroit.
Right now, the UFAs in 2014 are Lundqvist, Halak, Hiller, Miller and Corey Crawford. That's a more appealing group to me than Mike Smith and Backstrom. |
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True. At the same time, they get a year closer to seeing if Stolarz is ready, and the possible crop of FA goalies is better than this one is shaping up than this summer, especially if the rumors that Howard will be re-signed in Detroit.
Right now, the UFAs in 2014 are Lundqvist, Halak, Hiller, Miller and Corey Crawford. That's a more appealing group to me than Mike Smith and Backstrom. - Jsaquella
definitely a good point
might as well scratch lundqvist off that list though |
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KGBflyers10
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Location: United States, PA Joined: 10.28.2007
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Michael Richards @MRichie_10
Big Congrats to Kimmo Timonen on his 1000 game tonight. Classiest guy in the league #warrior #spike
Kramer was always my favorite Seinfeld character. |
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stveshdy
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Joined: 06.28.2010
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True. At the same time, they get a year closer to seeing if Stolarz is ready, and the possible crop of FA goalies is better than this one is shaping up than this summer, especially if the rumors that Howard will be re-signed in Detroit.
Right now, the UFAs in 2014 are Lundqvist, Halak, Hiller, Miller and Corey Crawford. That's a more appealing group to me than Mike Smith and Backstrom. - Jsaquella
I agree. Chances those goalies aren't re-signed is slim IMO. Hiller is the only goalie I see being a real option. |
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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You can't do that under the new CBA I heard. - mayorofangrytown
Well that's a new wrinkle |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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There are apparently plenty of goalies who are going to be available at the trade deadline or in the off season. I don't think it's a real stretch to think you could pull in one of them to put up the same stats at a reduced cost.
He's certainly not carrying the team and the team's given him spotty support at best. I'd certainly have to be considering it but it would have to come in a series of moves that upgraded my defense and required me to free up cap space. Otherwise I'm probably torn this off season. If I don't think i can make the moves to make this team a Cup contender in the off season why wait a year? - mayorofangrytown
The biggest reason I'd wait is you'd have to trade assets to land another goalie. A good veteran is going to be expensive in assets and have a big cap hit. A good youngster is going to cost you other assets. If I'm trying to "rebuild" or "retool" Why move assets to address a spot that is filled now?
Especially when you have a better UFA class in one year? |
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stveshdy
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Joined: 06.28.2010
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The biggest reason I'd wait is you'd have to trade assets to land another goalie. A good veteran is going to be expensive in assets and have a big cap hit. A good youngster is going to cost you other assets. If I'm trying to "rebuild" or "retool" Why move assets to address a spot that is filled now?
Especially when you have a better UFA class in one year? - Jsaquella
Doesn't the salary cap go down next year? |
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Hextall271
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Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB Joined: 01.18.2007
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True. At the same time, they get a year closer to seeing if Stolarz is ready, and the possible crop of FA goalies is better than this one is shaping up than this summer, especially if the rumors that Howard will be re-signed in Detroit.
Right now, the UFAs in 2014 are Lundqvist, Halak, Hiller, Miller and Corey Crawford. That's a more appealing group to me than Mike Smith and Backstrom. - Jsaquella
Yeah, I made that point earlier today. I'll take Lundqvist please!
ahhaha never happening. |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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You can't do that under the new CBA I heard. - mayorofangrytown
He's a UFA, there's no qualifiers for him. He signs a deal, he's a FA when it's over. |
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Hextall271
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Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB Joined: 01.18.2007
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Dear lord.. we are so desperate here, that I am cheering for the Rangers to win in regulation vs Carolina.. |
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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He's a UFA, there's no qualifiers for him. He signs a deal, he's a FA when it's over. - Jsaquella
And there is an answer |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Doesn't the salary cap go down next year? - stveshdy
Yes. Then it will rise the next summer. The Flyers can buy out Briere and have around $10mm in space to add pieces and re-sign the few RFAs they will need to keep.
Buying out Bryz next summer gives you a TON of cap room and that is when you have to re-sign Giroux, Couturier, Read and Schenn, if they're all still around. |
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Flyskippy
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Location: Ignoreland, GA Joined: 11.04.2005
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That's what I thought. Just a tiny bit disappointing.
- mayorofangrytown
Well... with my hair this long, I just yank some out when vexxed. Plenty to spare. |
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stveshdy
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Joined: 06.28.2010
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Yes. Then it will rise the next summer. The Flyers can buy out Briere and have around $10mm in space to add pieces and re-sign the few RFAs they will need to keep.
Buying out Bryz next summer gives you a TON of cap room and that is when you have to re-sign Giroux, Couturier, Read and Schenn, if they're all still around. - Jsaquella
Honestly I can't see Couturier or Schenn breaking the bank. These guys haven't produced the numbers to warrant a big deal. |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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I agree. Chances those goalies aren't re-signed is slim IMO. Hiller is the only goalie I see being a real option. - stveshdy
I think that both Hiller and Halak will be there. Halak might lose his job to Jake Allen. Miller is a bit of a wildcard, because I doubt he's a Sabre when his deal ends. |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Honestly I can't see Couturier or Schenn breaking the bank. These guys haven't produced the numbers to warrant a big deal. - stveshdy
They won't, but Giroux will likely have a cap hit that starts with the number 8 |
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Dear lord.. we are so desperate here, that I am cheering for the Rangers to win in regulation vs Carolina.. - Hextall271
really? gotta pass the rags too. and i think carolina's gonna win that division anyway. and to hell with the rangers |
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isaiah520
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Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it" Joined: 12.26.2006
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from the game I saw, he is a bit slow in decisionmaking. Can't see him making the jump right away. Well, on second thought, maybe he'd fit right in. - wilsonecho91
heard this about geno sti...smith |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Dear lord.. we are so desperate here, that I am cheering for the Rangers to win in regulation vs Carolina.. - Hextall271
Root for Carolina...they have fewer games in hand on the Flyers...Rangers have two games in hand |
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Hextall271
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Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB Joined: 01.18.2007
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really? gotta pass the rags too. and i think carolina's gonna win that division anyway. and to hell with the rangers - FlyerMike18
Well, the way I look at the standings, Carolina is in 8th so if they win, then we are further from that spot. Believe me.. I'll be right back on the f you Rangers wagon next game. |
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stveshdy
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They won't, but Giroux will likely have a cap hit that starts with the number 8 - Jsaquella
I like Giroux and he had an MVP type season last year but that figure scares me. |
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Hextall271
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Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB Joined: 01.18.2007
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Root for Carolina...they have fewer games in hand on the Flyers...Rangers have two games in hand - Jsaquella
Standings say that they've each played 27 games. |
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stveshdy
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I think that both Hiller and Halak will be there. Halak might lose his job to Jake Allen. Miller is a bit of a wildcard, because I doubt he's a Sabre when his deal ends. - Jsaquella
I like Jake Allen but I'm not convinced he will be the long term solution. Holtby was awesome during the playoffs and has struggled this year in his first full time season.
Halak still has really good numbers this year. |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Standings say that they've each played 27 games. - Hextall271
poop, I got crossed up...root for regulation. |
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Hextall271
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Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB Joined: 01.18.2007
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I like Giroux and he had an MVP type season last year but that figure scares me. - stveshdy
Ditto. I'd love to see him start leading the team back into the playoff race. Could be a hard year for him learning the Captain's role. |
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