Location: Tim Murray is bad a$$, NY Joined: 06.16.2007
Mar 18 @ 10:08 PM ET
Some people will not except reality. In their mind Pommer is this amazing 2 way hockey player and a great captain. He could be -25 and vanek could be +25 and they would say Vanek is lazy. - JPlatt915
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
Mar 18 @ 10:12 PM ET
Some people will not except reality. In their mind Pommer is this amazing 2 way hockey player and a great captain. He could be -25 and vanek could be +25 and they would say Vanek is lazy. - JPlatt915
Right because that is exactly what was said. Vanek is amazing we know, Pominville is horrible, which one preformed to their contract over the last 5 years?
JPlatt what happened to the secretary rumor? - sabresfandan
Pommer has been a good Sabre for a long time, but he isn't playing like he used to. He is not moving his legs. He has been awful on D. People are blaming CoHo or Van, but I see Pommer as the guilty party most of the worst plays.
Right because that is exactly what was said. Vanek is amazing we know, Pominville is horrible, which one preformed to their contract over the last 5 years? - sbroads24
Vanek is the best player on this team and he has been since Briere left.
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
Mar 18 @ 10:14 PM ET
Pommer has been a good Sabre for a long time, but he isn't playing like he used to. He is not moving his legs. He has been awful on D. People are blaming CoHo or Van, but I see Pommer as the guilty party most of the worst plays. - Pillar
Really so Hodgson's horrible FO % has nothing to do with it? Vanek's continuous stupid penalties never have anything to do with it? Just Pominville?
Really so Hodgson's horrible FO % has nothing to do with it? Vanek's continuous stupid penalties never have anything to do with it? Just Pominville? - sbroads24
It has alot to do with it. Where do you infer from what I said that CoHo losing faceoffs is not contributing to the troubles.
Not last year. And not in the last 20 games either - sbroads24
If you want to bash Vanek for some bad penalties, that's fine. If you want to get rid of our best young center because he is inexpirienced in the face off circle ok.
Not me. I say trade pomminville. He is the Captain, and he is not a very good one. If he was not the C, I might not want him gone, but he is the C. This team needs to bring in the new era. Vanek is the teams best goal scorer. I would trade him too, but I dont have too. I have to trade Pommer if I am the GM and am trying to get serious about rebuilding.
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
Mar 18 @ 10:25 PM ET
True Story. Thomas Vanek has lead our team in scoring once in the last 5 years - sbroads24
Point totals
2011-2012 - 61 was 2nd Pominville had 70
2010-2011 - 73 was 1st Pominville had 52
2009-2010- 53 - was 4th on the team Pominville had 62
2008-2009 - 64 was third- Pominville had 66
2007-2008 - 64- was third Pominville had 80
Point totals
2011-2012 - 61 was 2nd Pominville had 70
2010-2011 - 73 was 1st Pominville had 52
2009-2010- 53 - was 4th on the team Pominville had 62
2008-2009 - 64 was third- Pominville had 66
2007-2008 - 64- was third Pominville had 80
Who's the better player?? - sbroads24
Who had more goals. You can take Pommer and his secondary assits. I'll take vanek and his 30 goals.