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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 19 @ 9:21 PM ET
I'm trying to think of a team that is good that could use an upgrade on the blueline. Thing is the good teams have 4 dmen all better than Coburn, he makes a lot of coin for someone to put on their third pairing.
- PLindbergh31


Teams are always looking. Then a bidding war could start for his services. Detroit could use him no doubt about it.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:21 PM ET
He's playing terrible. He is still our 2nd best defenseman. (Mez close when healthy) He will bring in a haul.
- Just5


If Coburn can bring back a first round pick, I would look long and hard at that.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Mar 19 @ 9:21 PM ET
I went back and looked at deadline deals last season and no doubt Coburn would fetch at least a 1st rounder for a team in the hunt or playoff bound. Not saying I would trade Coburn but he would definitely get a good return.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=70000
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:22 PM ET
Teams are always looking. Then a bidding war could start for his services. Detroit could use him no doubt about it.
- stveshdy


Detroit is interesting. That could be possible. They have a lot of injuries.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 9:23 PM ET
I'm trying to think of a team that is good that could use an upgrade on the blueline. Thing is the good teams have 4 dmen all better than Coburn, he makes a lot of coin for someone to put on their third pairing.
- PLindbergh31


Ottawa could use him, Marc Methot joined the injured list tonight.
jeffherrm
Joined: 05.05.2007

Mar 19 @ 9:24 PM ET
That pick would likely have to be a first. And you know that if you want a team's top young defenseman, they're going to be asking for B Schenn or Couturier in return.
- MJL


Some of the players I mentioned are not the "top" young defenseman on their teams and their team may want a more experienced player for a playoff run (STL/ANA/MTL). I don't think all of those players mentioned would require Coburn and a 1st.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 19 @ 9:24 PM ET
Ottawa could use him, Marc Methot joined the injured list tonight.
- Jsaquella


There are plenty of teams out there. I just think its an option the Flyers should think about this year at the deadline. If they dont like what is offered then dont accept.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:24 PM ET
Ottawa could use him, Marc Methot joined the injured list tonight.
- Jsaquella


Yeah, that's another good example. Players keep dropping like flies, and the points keep piling up. Those things aren't usually part and parcel of one another.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:26 PM ET
Ottawa could use him, Marc Methot joined the injured list tonight.
- Jsaquella


There will be teams lined up for his services. All offering their 1st. So then you get a 3rd as well
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Mar 19 @ 9:27 PM ET
I went back and looked at deadline deals last season and no doubt Coburn would fetch at least a 1st rounder for a team in the hunt or playoff bound. Not saying I would trade Coburn but he would definitely get a good return.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=70000

- flyerfan28


If Paul Gaustad was able to bring back a 1st rounder, Coburn should be able to as well.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:27 PM ET
Rinne gonna leave the rink hungry... Bob eating his dinner.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 19 @ 9:27 PM ET
So if the Flyers can get a 1st rd pick for Coburn they should be able to figure out a way to get Weber, even with an overpay

Flyers 1st (lottery pick)
1st Obtained for Coburn
2014 1st
Cousins
picks we get for Gagne, Briere, Feds, Knuble
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 9:28 PM ET
Some of the players I mentioned are not the "top" young defenseman on their teams and their team may want a more experienced player for a playoff run (STL/ANA/MTL). I don't think all of those players mentioned would require Coburn and a 1st.
- jeffherrm


Which ones don't you think would require more then just Coburn?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:29 PM ET
So if the Flyers can get a 1st rd pick for Coburn they should be able to figure out a way to get Weber, even with an overpay

Flyers 1st (lottery pick)
1st Obtained for Coburn
2014 1st
Cousins
picks we get for Gagne, Briere, Feds, Knuble

- jstross


I think the Weber ship has sailed. If Nashville did make Weber available, I'm sure there are hard feelings from the offer sheet, and they would move him elsewhere.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Mar 19 @ 9:29 PM ET
If Paul Gaustad was able to bring back a 1st rounder, Coburn should be able to as well.
- KGBflyers10


I agree I think the Flyers would get at least a 1st and probably a roster player or prospect...I know fans on here arent to high on him but the Flyers arent the only team in need of D help especially come playoff time.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 19 @ 9:29 PM ET
Rinne gonna leave the rink hungry... Bob eating his dinner.
- PLindbergh31


Bob is on fire right now. Have to give credit to his team defense.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Mar 19 @ 9:29 PM ET
So if the Flyers can get a 1st rd pick for Coburn they should be able to figure out a way to get Weber, even with an overpay

Flyers 1st (lottery pick)
1st Obtained for Coburn
2014 1st
Cousins
picks we get for Gagne, Briere, Feds, Knuble

- jstross


No one is going to bite on Cousins until his legal problems are solved.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 9:29 PM ET
So if the Flyers can get a 1st rd pick for Coburn they should be able to figure out a way to get Weber, even with an overpay

Flyers 1st (lottery pick)
1st Obtained for Coburn
2014 1st
Cousins
picks we get for Gagne, Briere, Feds, Knuble

- jstross


That's less than they could have gotten had they just refused to match the offer sheet-and it comes after spending $26mm on him.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:29 PM ET
What issue, Coburn? How is he really damn predictable when you say we can't know what he'll give you any given game?

But f'real, I really don't care what "many posters" (half of which were alternate accounts) say. Except Butsy, he's p cool. I don't understand being all upset about 'debating' on one hand, then on the other implying anybody wants us to all 'praise all the flyers and something about Lavi's goldfish'. I'm getting mixed signals, do you or do you not want debate?

- BulliesPhan87


Butsy and rockychocbill were the two main I was talking about.

Its not the debating that is the main issue its the constant looking for debates, finding the smallest details and just looking to argue. This board used to have a much lighter tone, and not constantly be filled with debates that revolve around one person.

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:31 PM ET
That's less than they could have gotten had they just refused to match the offer sheet-and it comes after spending $26mm on him.
- Jsaquella


He seems different this year in Nasvhille.

That fire I saw in him in past seasons doesnt seem to be there as much.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:31 PM ET
Bob is on fire right now. Have to give credit to his team defense.
- stveshdy


Yes. The team D is off the hook in C-bus. 95 Devil-like. Holding teams to 12 shots and poop.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 19 @ 9:32 PM ET
He seems different this year in Nasvhille.

That fire I saw in him in past seasons doesnt seem to be there as much.

- flyer_nutter


Do you think he wanted to play here or he signed the offer sheet b/c he was getting paid.

Do you think he wanted to leave Nashville?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:32 PM ET
I went back and looked at deadline deals last season and no doubt Coburn would fetch at least a 1st rounder for a team in the hunt or playoff bound. Not saying I would trade Coburn but he would definitely get a good return.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=70000

- flyerfan28



Yep Quincey brought back a 1st +

Grossman a 2,3

Oduya 2,3 (wanted flyers to get)



I also mentioned I'd do Quincey straight up for coburn. Don't think they'd have interest
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 19 @ 9:33 PM ET
I think the Weber ship has sailed. If Nashville did make Weber available, I'm sure there are hard feelings from the offer sheet, and they would move him elsewhere.
- PLindbergh31


isn't that second $13 million dollar bonus due before the date he's eligible to be traded? he's going nowhere...they're not paying him $27 mil for one (shortened) season
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 19 @ 9:33 PM ET
Yes. The team D is off the hook in C-bus. 95 Devil-like. Holding teams to 12 shots and poop.
- PLindbergh31


Can't believe they have more points than the Flyers.

Who plays on there blueline?
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