Agree on both counts.
- bmeltzer

Despite the talent on hand, it hasn't equaled success. We've debated the reasons for that to no end.

This last week or so, it just really sucks. Spent all fall and early winter missing it, and when they return, they're inconsistent enough to where you feel you need to watch and bad enough to where people realize that with more than a third of the season left that the team is basically toast.

But we still get the joy of possibly seeing the team make a desperate last ditch grab to be cannon fodder in round one.

I believe Briere was asked to consider waiving it but that they will not pressure him to do so.
- ob18

The loyalty and respect is great, but I wish they'd be more proactive in meeting the needs of the team.

I believe Briere was asked to consider waiving it but that they will not pressure him to do so.
- ob18

I could see that...the flyers really treat players with respect if that player deserves it. Danny is a class act and I dont think anyone would debate that, but he is just not what the team right now. His number is crippling and he just isnt worth that anymore cap hit anymore. Love alot of intangibles but the talent isnt there anymore

The loyalty and respect is great, but I wish they'd be more proactive in meeting the needs of the team.
- Jsaquella

I agree but that is never gonna change and so I just know that

The loyalty and respect is great, but I wish they'd be more proactive in meeting the needs of the team.
- Jsaquella

Maybe they are and he just doesn't want to tip his hand

Maybe they are and he just doesn't want to tip his hand
- ob18

Well, any GM that is bluntly honest with the media is a fool. Holmgren's not a fool.

Well, any GM that is bluntly honest with the media is a fool. Holmgren's not a fool.
- Jsaquella

Well with how he handles the cap & stocking the system with talent could suggest otherwise at times.

Well with how he handles the cap & stocking the system with talent could suggest otherwise at times.
- ob18

Yeah, I'm still thinking a lot of that is mandated by ownership.

Well, any GM that is bluntly honest with the media is a fool. Holmgren's not a fool.
- Jsaquella

I just think people read to much when he says nothing

Yeah, I'm still thinking a lot of that is mandated by ownership.
- Jsaquella

Yup, did you see this Sean Monahan article today?

I just think people read to much when he says nothing
- nonpoint22

Also very, very true.

Yup, did you see the Sean Monahan article today?
- ob18

No, but I saw a story on him on NHL Network. Smart kid, looks really solid as a two way player.

I just think people read to much when he says nothing
- nonpoint22

You're probably right, but man, when he pulls the Richards/Carter it's hard not to.

No, but I saw a story on him on NHL Network. Smart kid, looks really solid as a two way player.
- Jsaquella

It's here, wonderful player to watch.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/ev....htm?location=/draft/2013

Also very, very true.
- Jsaquella

Its due to the day they traded Richards and Carter...It spoiled fans who now think major moves like that are easy, but dont realize how difficult it is to make any move especially now with the salary cap and the uncertainty of where the cap is going in the immediate and long term

Its due to the day they traded Richards and Carter...It spoiled fans who now think major moves like that are easy, but dont realize how difficult it is to make any move especially now with the salary cap and the uncertainty of where the cap is going in the immediate and long term
- nonpoint22

True. I think that part of it is, that long term extensions were becoming kind of a beacon light to get traded.

I think every time I watch Detroit Kronwall flattens someone

True. I think that part of it is, that long term extensions were becoming kind of a beacon light to get traded.
- Jsaquella

Unfortunately this is where that is going to kill them cause the players who sign to come here now will look at that and demand a NMC, which is totally understandable and as we see this year, when it is time to turn the page and move on from certain veterans it hamstrings us in what we can do

It's here, wonderful player to watch.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/ev....htm?location=/draft/2013
- ob18

They had me at "top three - best on faceoffs".

I think every time I watch Detroit Kronwall flattens someone
- JoeRussomanno

Its a gift he has.....whether you think he is a dirty player or not

It's here, wonderful player to watch.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/ev....htm?location=/draft/2013
- ob18

There are too many forwards in this draft that the flyers will salivate over. No way in hell they draft a d man. I don't care either way its just what's happening

I think every time I watch Detroit Kronwall flattens someone
- JoeRussomanno

He came damned close to laving his feet.

They had me at "top three - best on faceoffs".
- 77rams

I'm sure it is up there the OHL doesn't release that to fans, but it can be had if you ask the right people.

There are too many forwards in this draft that the flyers will salivate over. No way in hell they draft a d man. I don't care either way its just what's happening
- Just5

It's BPA, can't focus on the one spot no matter how much I or all of us want a D man drafted.

There are too many forwards in this draft that the flyers will salivate over. No way in hell they draft a d man. I don't care either way its just what's happening
- Just5

In 2008, they took Sbisa, despite a couple of highly rated forwards still being on the board. They take the guy at the top of their board in round one, regardless of position.