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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 9:26 PM ET
Heading to OT

Sault St Marie - 1
Owen Sound - 1

Cousins has an assist and looking good winning faceoffs

Nurse has been quiet but decent.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 9:31 PM ET
Sure. Just send me $45, plus handling.
- Jsaquella

How much is the handling? ok ok I'm done but you opened that up
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 21 @ 9:32 PM ET
Thats where my issues lie with him.

Will he be one of those players you expect to lead your team? Or just a secondary guy that is decent in all areas but doesnt really excel in one position.

We will see in time. I'm not a huge fan of the kid yet.

- flyer_nutter


I think he has the makings of a leader...but now it is G and Voracek and Simmonds time to surge (and lead), with Schenn and Couturier not too far behind...the window of Cup contention effectively closed when Pronger was downed...if things play out as they should, it should once again open some 2-3 years from now when all these young guys develop and gel edit: and the #1 D hole is filled (imo)...
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 21 @ 9:32 PM ET
Heading to OT

Sault St Marie - 1
Owen Sound - 1

Cousins has an assist and looking good winning faceoffs

Nurse has been quiet but decent.

- ob18


Get wurse for nurse?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 9:33 PM ET
Get wurse for nurse?
- Just5


It's been a good game for defense & goaltending. Solid playoff hockey.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 21 @ 9:35 PM ET
Anyone watching this Toronto vs Buffalo game? It is pretty damn good.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Mar 21 @ 9:42 PM ET
Anyone watching this Toronto vs Buffalo game? It is pretty damn good.
- opeth_pa

the islanders 2 own goals has me mesmerized
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 9:50 PM ET
Final/OT

Sault St Marie - 1
Owen Sound - 2
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 21 @ 9:50 PM ET
I may be leight to the party, but according to Andy Strickland, the Blues have interest in Talbot.

Thoughts?

- Rocktane


Depends on what they offer but I see zero need to move Talbot. He's signed through 2016 at a reasonable cost.

Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 21 @ 9:51 PM ET
Ryan Getzlaff and Corey Perry just signed deals with AAV's over $8mm, prices aren't going down. With the CBA mandated limits, prices are going up
- Jsaquella


I understand your point, but....... Both of those guys are playing stud hockey and are in the prime of their careers. I would gladly send those underperforming and aging veterans with 5-6 mil contracts and pay 2 mil more for each of those two.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 9:54 PM ET
Depends on what they offer but I see zero need to move Talbot. He's signed through 2016 at a reasonable cost.
- bmeltzer


They want him they'll have to pay up big.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 21 @ 9:56 PM ET
It's not a good idea to look a year ahead at the potential UFA pool. By the time free agency would actually start, many of the desirable free agents -- especially D-men -- will have already been locked up in contract extensions and will be off the market. That's the way the league has been going in recent years, and has continued after the lockout.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 9:57 PM ET
Thats where my issues lie with him.

Will he be one of those players you expect to lead your team? Or just a secondary guy that is decent in all areas but doesnt really excel in one position.

We will see in time. I'm not a huge fan of the kid yet.

- flyer_nutter


Regardless of whether he becomes an all star, or just a good player. Why is that cause to have an issue with him? He's shown this Season what he's capable of.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 9:59 PM ET
Depends on what they offer but I see zero need to move Talbot. He's signed through 2016 at a reasonable cost.
- bmeltzer


I agree Bill. But some think that one bad season means trade anybody you can. I'd be looking to trade Briere. That's about it.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 10:00 PM ET
They want him they'll have to pay up big.
- ob18

I'd love to stock up on picks this year. I have ton of trouble gauging Talbot's value tho.

He is worth more to our team than what the Blues 2nd rounder would be. Not good enough to bring back a 1st.

Talbot and our high 3rd rounder for their mid to late 1st? That would be the cost for me. I think they could find a better deal elsewhere tho.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 21 @ 10:03 PM ET
It's not a good idea to look a year ahead at the potential UFA pool. By the time free agency would actually start, many of the desirable free agents -- especially D-men -- will have already been locked up in contract extensions and will be off the market. That's the way the league has been going in recent years, and has continued after the lockout.
- bmeltzer


At the very least, it seems to be a little more promising (even with possible extensions) compared to this season.

Decent d-men are getting harder and harder to find in FA.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 21 @ 10:05 PM ET
I agree Bill. But some think that one bad season means trade anybody you can. I'd be looking to trade Briere. That's about it.
- MJL


Who are these people?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 21 @ 10:08 PM ET
Regardless of whether he becomes an all star, or just a good player. Why is that cause to have an issue with him? He's shown this Season what he's capable of.
- MJL


My issue would start and end with dissapointment if he ended up just being a decent secondary kind of player.

I would have expected a bit more. Whats with the constant trying to stir the pot? Nobody hates Brayden Schenn, or wants to burn down his house. In time we will see what he will be, but as of now he isn't some miracle worker. So defensive over nothing, and just shooting down every topic with questions. It gets old.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 10:19 PM ET
My issue would start and end with dissapointment if he ended up just being a decent secondary kind of player.

I would have expected a bit more. Whats with the constant trying to stir the pot? Nobody hates Brayden Schenn, or wants to burn down his house. In time we will see what he will be, but as of now he isn't some miracle worker. So defensive over nothing, and just shooting down every topic with questions. It gets old.

- flyer_nutter



There can only be so many stars on a team. I have no idea why, if B Schenn just becomes a good solid player, why that would be an issue. Good teams, top teams are made up of good solid players. Teams aren't full of All Stars. Schenn, who to this point has only played 92 NHL regular season games. Had a stretch of 16 points in 19 games, before his recent slump. Slumps aren't uncommon for a player of his age and experience level. He's also shown to have a physical edge to his game.
I look at what I see from him now. Every player doesn't have to turn into an All Star to be considered a success. And at this point to have an issue with a player because he might not meet your expectations in the future, makes little sense.
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Mar 21 @ 10:20 PM ET
Claude Noel has quietly done a pretty good (unexpected to me) job with the Jets as well this season. For large portions either Bogosian, Buff or Enstrom have been out of the lineup all season long.

They just really seem to have bought in playing as a cohesive group. Would love to see more of that from the Flyers. Maybe one of those team building trips?

- flyer_nutter


I read a Columbus blog after watching a few of their games and agree those players are really playing hard for each other. It seems the CBJ are becoming a true team and everyone is pulling and playing hard for each other. I really don't see that with this Flyers team. Maybe a new coach can instill that- like you are saying about Noel
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 11:03 PM ET
Sabres and Panthers win. Woot.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Mar 21 @ 11:04 PM ET
Sabres and Panthers win. Woot.
- hereticpride

4th slot, baby
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 11:06 PM ET
It's not a good idea to look a year ahead at the potential UFA pool. By the time free agency would actually start, many of the desirable free agents -- especially D-men -- will have already been locked up in contract extensions and will be off the market. That's the way the league has been going in recent years, and has continued after the lockout.
- bmeltzer

Think of all the pages of perry love we'd have missed out on if people followed this.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 11:10 PM ET
My issue would start and end with dissapointment if he ended up just being a decent secondary kind of player.

I would have expected a bit more. Whats with the constant trying to stir the pot? Nobody hates Brayden Schenn, or wants to burn down his house. In time we will see what he will be, but as of now he isn't some miracle worker. So defensive over nothing, and just shooting down every topic with questions. It gets old.

- flyer_nutter

Pot calling the kettle black here is it not?
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Mar 21 @ 11:27 PM ET
It's weird seeing other teams with more GPs than us.
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