Sault Ste Marie - 5
Owen Sound - 3

Cousins had 2 goals (both on power play)
Alderson with the empty netter

Owen Sound leads the series 2 - 1

They lost 2-1 last night. They could have used Ryan.

Trading Couturier for Ryan doesn't eliminate the possibility of getting a defenseman. There's not a rule I'm aware of that limits teams to 3 trades per summer.

Maybe the full deal would see them get a defenseman back, along with Ryan. Again, you're allowed to make trades with more than one or two guys.

I'm not disagreeing that they need a defenseman more than a 30+ goal winger. I am saying that it's dumb to just dismiss it as stupid without looking at all the possible ramifications and possibilities.

I don't know if I'd even agree to it. I'd be fine if they just moved Read+ for Bouwmeester(getting some cap eaten by CGY) or Yandle
- Jsaquella

I want Yandle. I don't care how bad he is on defense (which I dont think he is) this team needs a puck moving defenseman with offensive skills. He would help a lot on the PP as well.

Get as many picks as you can for all the UFAs and Wellwood since they won't use him anyway. Then move up or go after a top 4 Dman with picks and a DMan. Not easy, but doable.

Flyers have enough physical defensemen in Coburn, Schenn and Grossmann. They need a puck mover more so than a 30 goal scorer. Hell Hartnell has been about a 25 goal a year, there are goal scorers on this team. Ryan would be a nice addition but he wouldn't fix the problems here.
- JoeRussomanno

Would this work?



Edit: I think #3 is Foster

I want Yandle. I don't care how bad he is on defense (which I dont think he is) this team needs a puck moving defenseman with offensive skills. He would help a lot on the PP as well.
- stveshdy

He's not as bad as, say Mike Green was. But defense is definitely not his strong suit. He's also completely lacking in physicality. I don't give a poop about that, but there's fans that will.

I prefer him to Bouwmeester for two reasons-One, he's younger. Two, better cap value and more years left on his deal. Much more control.

I want Yandle. I don't care how bad he is on defense (which I dont think he is) this team needs a puck moving defenseman with offensive skills. He would help a lot on the PP as well.
- stveshdy

I agree. If lava is here. My god get him yandle

They lost 2-1 last night. They could have used Ryan.

Trading Couturier for Ryan doesn't eliminate the possibility of getting a defenseman. There's not a rule I'm aware of that limits teams to 3 trades per summer.

Maybe the full deal would see them get a defenseman back, along with Ryan. Again, you're allowed to make trades with more than one or two guys.

I'm not disagreeing that they need a defenseman more than a 30+ goal winger. I am saying that it's dumb to just dismiss it as stupid without looking at all the possible ramifications and possibilities.

I don't know if I'd even agree to it. I'd be fine if they just moved Read+ for Bouwmeester(getting some cap eaten by CGY) or Yandle
- Jsaquella

maybe, but you can have the biggest motor in your car, it don't mean squat if the tranny don't shift.

Would this work?



Edit: I think #3 is Foster
- mikel33

I'd answer in true form but i think I've broken enough hearts tonight.

Would this work?



Edit: I think #3 is Foster
- mikel33

I'd answer in true form but i think I've broken enough hearts tonight.

He's not as bad as, say Mike Green was. But defense is definitely not his strong suit. He's also completely lacking in physicality. I don't give a poop about that, but there's fans that will.

I prefer him to Bouwmeester for two reasons-One, he's younger. Two, better cap value and more years left on his deal. Much more control.
- Jsaquella

Yandle is stuck in Phoenix which doesn't really go all out on offense. When you look at that roster its unreal how they even score goals.

Put Yandle on the Flyers and he will score 50 points or more. The Flyers have enough tough stay at home guys. Need a player who can create and skate the puck.

Quick trigger finger? Or doing your best cock fighting impression?
- GirouxForTheShow

the conversation went deep into 12 year old girlville.

maybe, but you can have the biggest motor in your car, it don't mean squat if the tranny don't shift.
- JoeRussomanno

Again, trading Couturier for Ryan and getting a defenseman are not mutually exclusive things. It's not an either or deal.

I'd answer in true form but i think I've broken enough hearts tonight.
- JoeRussomanno

Wait.. you mean you had something nega... nevermind nevermind.

A cease fire is a cease fire.

maybe, but you can have the biggest motor in your car, it don't mean squat if the tranny don't shift.
- JoeRussomanno[/quote]



(Eagerly anticipating the inappropriate pictures to ensue)

Yandle is stuck in Phoenix which doesn't really go all out on offense. When you look at that roster its unreal how they even score goals.

Put Yandle on the Flyers and he will score 50 points or more. The Flyers have enough tough stay at home guys. Need a player who can create and skate the puck.
- stveshdy

The Flyers might not be going all out on offense next season, either. I think Laviolette, barring a miraculous run into the playoffs and winning a round or two, is going to be replaced.

Thats good then. Its better to have work than no work.
- stveshdy

Amen, sir. I'll tell you what, a 40 hour day never flies by quite as fast as after the busy season.

I agree. If lava is here. My god get him yandle
- Just5

Exactly. I dont care if hes not physical or an all star in his own end. The Flyers have enough of that. Go get a player who can skate and create with the puck and be an offensive threat. Tired of seeing no skill on the blueline when it comes to offense.

The Flyers might not be going all out on offense next season, either. I think Laviolette, barring a miraculous run into the playoffs and winning a round or two, is going to be replaced.
- Jsaquella

A lot depends on the direction the organization goes.

A lot depends on the direction the organization goes.
- stveshdy

Even with a more conservative coach, I'd be OK with Yandle.

They lost 2-1 last night. They could have used Ryan.

Trading Couturier for Ryan doesn't eliminate the possibility of getting a defenseman. There's not a rule I'm aware of that limits teams to 3 trades per summer.

Maybe the full deal would see them get a defenseman back, along with Ryan. Again, you're allowed to make trades with more than one or two guys.

I'm not disagreeing that they need a defenseman more than a 30+ goal winger. I am saying that it's dumb to just dismiss it as stupid without looking at all the possible ramifications and possibilities.

I don't know if I'd even agree to it. I'd be fine if they just moved Read+ for Bouwmeester(getting some cap eaten by CGY) or Yandle
- Jsaquella

good to see acknowledgement of the flyers scoring problems this yr. would you be open to campbell if FL ate enuf salary?

He's not as bad as, say Mike Green was. But defense is definitely not his strong suit. He's also completely lacking in physicality. I don't give a poop about that, but there's fans that will.

I prefer him to Bouwmeester for two reasons-One, he's younger. Two, better cap value and more years left on his deal. Much more control.
- Jsaquella

I don't believe the team necessarily needs a true #1 d-man only because they are so hard to attain unless you draft one. With that being said, I think there has to be a different mix to the d core regardless of the coach next season. I'm completely comfortable with Grossmann and Schenn as the stay at home d-men. Kimmo can be effective if they can protect him and keep his minute below 20 minutes/night. My problem is the $8 + million/yr the team is dedicating to Coburn and Mez. Way too much money for the production, which I'm not sure can get better between the two. I'm okay with letting one of the two go via trade. Keep one, trade for a Yandle or Buff and go real cheap and young with the #6 d-man and a grizzled veteran cheap #7 d-man. Personally, I'm expecting big things from Ghost. I don't believe he starts with the big club, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him up after the New Year next year in that #6 d-man role. I think the guy has some real ability.

Yandle is stuck in Phoenix which doesn't really go all out on offense. When you look at that roster its unreal how they even score goals.

Put Yandle on the Flyers and he will score 50 points or more. The Flyers have enough tough stay at home guys. Need a player who can create and skate the puck.
- stveshdy

I would think about cooter for yandle. And as I say that doughty literally stick handles through all 5 Blackhawks and scores. Yes I would involve cooter

the conversation went deep into 12 year old girlville.
- JoeRussomanno

I understand arguing just to argue, it's the conversing of choice around here. I'd just thought there be a better topic to swing your cock at.

A lot depends on the direction the organization goes.
- stveshdy

They still need to address the D no matter which direction they go. Timonen's done soon.

Again, trading Couturier for Ryan and getting a defenseman are not mutually exclusive things. It's not an either or deal.
- Jsaquella

I understand and would not oppose that. I just don't see the organizational goal being one that should focus on a top 6 forward right now. Especially when the blue line is lacking and you have Timmonen clearly past his prime with little to no gas left in the tank. If they can move couturier in a ticky tack maneuver like you are alluding to, i just hope it doesn't open up more holes without addressing the existing one. That could really spell the beginning of another 4-5 years like we just went through and did in the early 90's.