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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 25 @ 9:46 PM ET
I understand arguing just to argue, it's the conversing of choice around here. I'd just thought there be a better topic to swing your cock at.
- GirouxForTheShow

there's nothing that goes on here that involves the part of my body you're referring too.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 25 @ 9:46 PM ET
good to see acknowledgement of the flyers scoring problems this yr. would you be open to campbell if FL ate enuf salary?
- isaiah520


I'd prefer Bouwmeester, Byfuglien and Yandle, but it's more an age thing.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 25 @ 9:47 PM ET
Get as many picks as you can for all the UFAs and Wellwood since they won't use him anyway. Then move up or go after a top 4 Dman with picks and a DMan. Not easy, but doable.
- jstross


eh, i'd prefer to hang on to young depth. unless someone bowled homer over for wellwood (which i doubt would happen)
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 25 @ 9:49 PM ET
good to see acknowledgement of the flyers scoring problems this yr. would you be open to campbell if FL ate enuf salary?
- isaiah520


i'd be open to boyle if the price was cheap enough and in the right circumstances
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 25 @ 9:49 PM ET
They still need to address the D no matter which direction they go. Timonen's done soon.
- mikel33


Yes sir.

Get some defenseman and Emery.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 25 @ 9:50 PM ET
speaking of young players, any word on tye mcginn?? i liked what he brought when he was up; i'd like to see him back with the big club down the stretch here
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 25 @ 9:50 PM ET
I'd prefer Bouwmeester, Byfuglien and Yandle, but it's more an age thing.
- Jsaquella


Get all three. Add Emery.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 25 @ 9:50 PM ET
speaking of young players, any word on tye mcginn?? i liked what he brought when he was up; i'd like to see him back with the big club down the stretch here
- FlyerMike18


Called up for Briere.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 25 @ 9:50 PM ET
speaking of young players, any word on tye mcginn?? i liked what he brought when he was up; i'd like to see him back with the big club down the stretch here
- FlyerMike18


Called up today most likely for Briere.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:52 PM ET
speaking of young players, any word on tye mcginn?? i liked what he brought when he was up; i'd like to see him back with the big club down the stretch here
- FlyerMike18


Called up. Probably for Briere.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 25 @ 9:53 PM ET
speaking of young players, any word on tye mcginn?? i liked what he brought when he was up; i'd like to see him back with the big club down the stretch here
- FlyerMike18

I will also tell you he was called up.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:53 PM ET
I will also tell you he was called up.
- BulliesPhan87


For Briere?
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 25 @ 9:54 PM ET
@SteveBurtch: Franson and JvR benched - shocking in an OT 4on4 situation.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 25 @ 9:54 PM ET
Ya see that FlyerMike18?

He's was (frank)ing called up. For Briere. Ok?
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 25 @ 9:55 PM ET
@SteveBurtch: Franson and JvR benched - shocking in an OT 4on4 situation.
- feelingkettle


Watching that game now. JvR looks the same as he was in Philly. Does circles in the Dzone like he is chasing his tail.

Every TOR game I watch I get more and more impressed with Kadri.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Mar 25 @ 9:56 PM ET
Briere for Nathan Beaulieu and a pick would be a nice trade
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 25 @ 9:56 PM ET
For Briere?
- mikel33


I hear it was for Briere. The call up, that is. Ty McGinn's call up.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 25 @ 9:56 PM ET
I don't believe the team necessarily needs a true #1 d-man only because they are so hard to attain unless you draft one. With that being said, I think there has to be a different mix to the d core regardless of the coach next season. I'm completely comfortable with Grossmann and Schenn as the stay at home d-men. Kimmo can be effective if they can protect him and keep his minute below 20 minutes/night. My problem is the $8 + million/yr the team is dedicating to Coburn and Mez. Way too much money for the production, which I'm not sure can get better between the two. I'm okay with letting one of the two go via trade. Keep one, trade for a Yandle or Buff and go real cheap and young with the #6 d-man and a grizzled veteran cheap #7 d-man. Personally, I'm expecting big things from Ghost. I don't believe he starts with the big club, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him up after the New Year next year in that #6 d-man role. I think the guy has some real ability.
- ravishingone



You nailed. I think coburn should be shopped. Yandle is an excellent fit. La scored two goals Bc of voynov and doughty rushing down the ice. No flyers dmen currently have the wheels or skill to attempt what they did.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 25 @ 9:57 PM ET
i'd be open to boyle if the price was cheap enough and in the right circumstances
- FlyerMike18

the prob w/ that is he only has 1 more yr left on his contract and he's a somewhat declining plyr who's 37 nxt yr. i'd look elsewhere.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 25 @ 9:58 PM ET
I will also tell you he was called up.
- BulliesPhan87




thanks, everyone. guess i missed that today!

so....good call up
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 25 @ 9:58 PM ET
the prob w/ that is he only has 1 more yr left on his contract and he's a somewhat declining plyr who's 37 nxt yr. i'd look elsewhere.
- isaiah520


Yandle is the target.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 25 @ 10:00 PM ET
the prob w/ that is he only has 1 more yr left on his contract and he's a somewhat declining plyr who's 37 nxt yr. i'd look elsewhere.
- isaiah520


yea i'd be talking bargain. i doubt the price would be cheap enough, but i'd be inquiring at least. think he could be a nice short term help, if they decide to part ways with any d men
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 25 @ 10:00 PM ET
You nailed. I think coburn should be shopped. Yandle is an excellent fit. La scored two goals Bc of voynov and doughty rushing down the ice. No flyers dmen currently have the wheels or skill to attempt what they did.
- Just5


Coburn and forward for Yandle?

That enough or too much?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 25 @ 10:02 PM ET
You nailed. I think coburn should be shopped. Yandle is an excellent fit. La scored two goals Bc of voynov and doughty rushing down the ice. No flyers dmen currently have the wheels or skill to attempt what they did.
- Just5


Jsaq brought up the fact that Yandle isn't physical and it would bother some. I would be one of those.

Its not so much that I have an issue with, its I hate d-men who are supposed to be paid big money, however you have to shield them from other top lines. I dont like d-men who can't handle the physical game down low. Guys like Subban (just to throw a name out there), are offensive d-men but they aren't outmatched physically down low, at least not as much as I've sometimes seen with Yandle. You could pair him with Grossman for example but I think other top teams would still target him with their best offensive players.

We all have guys we would prefer. I'd rather go after Streit, and build through the draft instead of giving up assets for Yandle. Although I wouldnt be too pissed off if he was on the team.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 25 @ 10:03 PM ET
Coburn and forward for Yandle?

That enough or too much?

- stveshdy


I think with Yandle you are looking at starting with either Voracek, Brayden Schenn or Coots. D-man aren't cheap, and established guys are always worth more than "potential".
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