Nope. Never happened.
- Jsaquella

Traded with 30 minutes of each other nonetheless. And hmm, there was this other team that made 2 trades in as many days not that long ago...

Considering how much Homer was willing to tinker with the line-up last summer and came up empty, I expect similiar aggressive tactics this year. Guys like Voracek and Simmonds who signed multi-year deals at reasonable cap hits are certainly in play for trade. Players like Noebels, Laughton, McGinn, and Cousins (depending on court proceedings) could potentially fill top 9 roles next year at a minimal cost on the cap. I definitely think Talbot is in play at the deadline, he is a perfect role player for a Stanley Cup contending team. I think his value will never be higher then right now because of his age and terms of contract.
- ravishingone

I don't know what to expect. I think they can get a good defenseman without moving Couturier or Schenn, but they'd have to be open to moving Read or Simmonds or Hartnell.

If they move one of them, the offense will take a hit. There's moves out there to be made, but I'm not sure they need to make massive changes. I also am not sure they shouldn't be aggressive, either.

I really don't think they are that far away

If the Coyotes are trading Yandle, the top reason is to get some offensive help. The second reason is to open a spot for Gormley or Rundblad. Why would they take Coburn or Meszaros back?
- Jsaquella

If you think Rundblad can replace Yandle, you have not been following the kid. He has a long way to go.

I don't know what to expect. I think they can get a good defenseman without moving Couturier or Schenn, but they'd have to be open to moving Read or Simmonds or Hartnell.

If they move one of them, the offense will take a hit. There's moves out there to be made, but I'm not sure they need to make massive changes. I also am not sure they shouldn't be aggressive, either.

I really don't think they are that far away
- Jsaquella

What an incredible concept that is. And to think that we didn't retool at all these past few years. You would think we are in year 10 rebuild mode.

If you think Rundblad can replace Yandle, you have not been following the kid. He has a long way to go.
- strongsupporter

Not saying he can step right in and do what Yandle's doing at all...but right now he's stuck in the AHL. But part of the reason that Yandle's on the block is to make room for him and Gormley.

I repeat Gormley's name because it seems you ignored it when I mentioned it the first time.

I think you'd need Read and a pick to land Yandle, personally. They don't want to add salary or defensemen.
- Jsaquella

based on recent transactions, that wouldn't be enuf.

Traded with 30 minutes of each other nonetheless. And hmm, there was this other team that made 2 trades in as many days not that long ago...
- GirouxForTheShow

All lies. Impossible. There's no way that they could trade Couturier for Ryan an then trade the next day for a good defenseman

I don't know what to expect. I think they can get a good defenseman without moving Couturier or Schenn, but they'd have to be open to moving Read or Simmonds or Hartnell.

If they move one of them, the offense will take a hit. There's moves out there to be made, but I'm not sure they need to make massive changes. I also am not sure they shouldn't be aggressive, either.

I really don't think they are that far away
- Jsaquella

I don't think they are far off either. Considering this is G's first year being captain, I expect him to be a lot better next year. I just think Lava has grown stale, which inevitably happens to 95 % of all coaches in almost any sport. I agree to a point the offense will take somewhat a hit by moving a forward, but better offensive production from the blue line can offset a lot of that loss I feel. Also, if a new coach could instill a defensive system that actually limits golden opportunities in their own zone, I think the team can be a legitimate threat again.

based on recent transactions, that wouldn't be enuf.
- isaiah520

You'd have to do it in summer, at the deadline everything costs more.

You'd have to do it in summer, at the deadline everything costs more.
- Jsaquella

Guys like Talbot you trade at the deadline to get maximum value.

Not saying he can step right in and do what Yandle's doing at all...but right now he's stuck in the AHL. But part of the reason that Yandle's on the block is to make room for him and Gormley.

I repeat Gormley's name because it seems you ignored it when I mentioned it the first time.
- Jsaquella

Didn't see it the first time . Sorry. As I catch up on the posts, I think most people are suggesting change for change sake.
I still think we have a good core and need to add a couple of kids. People say that defensemen take time to develop and the prime years are between 27 and 32.
We have the top four in that age bracket (after Kimmo) yet there appears to be a desire to 'get younger". I don't understand it at all.

Didn't see it the first time . Sorry. As I catch up on the posts, I think most people are suggesting change for change sake.
I still think we have a good core and need to add a couple of kids. People say that defensemen take time to develop and the prime years are between 27 and 32.
We have the top four in that age bracket (after Kimmo) yet there appears to be a desire to 'get younger". I don't understand it at all.
- strongsupporter

I would say there is more of a desire to get more mobile rather than younger. And prime age matters not when players, I.e. Coburn, don't play as their age and experience would dictate.

Guys like Talbot you trade at the deadline to get maximum value.
- ravishingone

Talbot isn't going anywhere. Bill spelled it out pretty well a few days ago in his blog. The flyers can't replace his role for what he makes.

Guys like Talbot you trade at the deadline to get maximum value.
- ravishingone

Yep. I'd definitely be listening to offers for him, wouldn't be shopping him, though.

I would say there is more of a desire to get more mobile rather than younger. And prime age matters not when players, I.e. Coburn, don't play as their age and experience would dictate.
- GirouxForTheShow

I'm not for or against Coburn but it does appear that he has been moved onto the train that drives players out of Philly (now that Carle is gone).

Yep. I'd definitely be listening to offers for him, wouldn't be shopping him, though.
- Jsaquella

You start shopping and you tip your hand, I think Homer would have to get blown away.

Yep. I'd definitely be listening to offers for him, wouldn't be shopping him, though.
- Jsaquella

I have little doubt teams are calling about him. A strong playoff performer in the past and a decent cap hit. Gaustad got the Sabres a first rounder last year and he was an UFA. I wouldn't be shocked to see Talbot get similiar interest.

Didn't see it the first time . Sorry. As I catch up on the posts, I think most people are suggesting change for change sake.
I still think we have a good core and need to add a couple of kids. People say that defensemen take time to develop and the prime years are between 27 and 32.
We have the top four in that age bracket (after Kimmo) yet there appears to be a desire to 'get younger". I don't understand it at all.
- strongsupporter

I like the core of the team, and I'm actually looking for minimal change on the roster-or at least would be good with minimal change. I'm not against making more substantial moves, though.

I have little doubt teams are calling about him. A strong playoff performer in the past and a decent cap hit. Gaustad got the Sabres a first rounder last year and he was an UFA. I wouldn't be shocked to see Talbot get similiar interest.
- ravishingone

Stupid nashville. If your a seller at the deadline. Every trade you win

Stupid nashville. If your a seller at the deadline. Every trade you win
- Just5

Pretty much. This year again is pretty much a seller's market. The Pens may actually have done the Flyers a favor by giving up decent assets for older UFA reinforcements. The Flyers could actually offer players under control in the trade market. It would certainly appear they would have even more value.

You'd have to do it in summer, at the deadline everything costs more.
- Jsaquella

you'd still have to at least add gusty and a pick, imo.

The guy I'd trade is Giroux for that franchise dman. I wrote on another Flyers message board last year that I'd have done Giroux+ for Weber. I'd do it again this year for a Shattenkirk or OEL. Giroux will be making $7M+ after next year. I'd rather spend that on a franchise dman. We have plenty of C depth and with the way Holmgren is able to draft quality forwards especially centermen, I think it's the way to go.

Edit: Blast away.

you'd still have to at least add gusty and a pick, imo.
- isaiah520

Done. In a heartbeat

The guy I'd trade is Giroux for that franchise dman. I wrote on another Flyers message board last year that I'd have done Giroux+ for Weber. I'd do it again this year for a Shattenkirk or OEL. Giroux will be making $7M+ after next year. I'd rather spend that on a franchise dman. We have plenty of C depth and with the way Holmgren is able to draft quality forwards especially centermen, I think it's the way to go.

Edit: Blast away.
- phillydentist

I wouldn't do it for Shattenkirk. He's a very good defenseman, but he's not elite or a franchise defenseman. OEL has the potential to be, and is fast becoming one. Still not sold I'd move Giroux for him.

The guy I'd trade is Giroux for that franchise dman. I wrote on another Flyers message board last year that I'd have done Giroux+ for Weber. I'd do it again this year for a Shattenkirk or OEL. Giroux will be making $7M+ after next year. I'd rather spend that on a franchise dman. We have plenty of C depth and with the way Holmgren is able to draft quality forwards especially centermen, I think it's the way to go.

Edit: Blast away.
- phillydentist

Shattenkirk is the shat skid marks in OELs underoos. Giroux for OEL plus picks yes. Giroux for Shattenkirk and Backes(with PHI pick coming back) or Tarasenko (no picks) MAYBE yes. But these deals are astronomical and will never ever happen.