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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 9:21 PM ET
if this draft is that solid, the flyers should be open to trading coburn for a 1st rndr+.
coby will rebound, but i think he looks like a guy who's a little too comfortable here. I'd want a top 4 prospect in addition to the pick...given what dreck is fetching these days, it's doable.

- isaiah520


The more I think about this, the more I see how it could be workable, especially if they can add a guy like Bouwmeester.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:21 PM ET
I'd agree with that. It changes all the time to be honest, but I've got a little thing for Ryan Ellis lately. Having a down year for Nashville, but has a lot of that word we all love, potential.

If the Preds would even be willing to talk, Id look to make a deal. Myers imo will cost Coots +

- flyer_nutter


Too small in my opinion. Really lacks size.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 27 @ 9:21 PM ET
But what? Do you really think Buffalo is going to trade Myers?
- MJL


Doubtful. If they did they probably would want a lot back in return.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 9:22 PM ET
@GeorgejohnsonCH

The 2 kids - Bartkowski and Khoklachev, plus a 1st-rounder - for Iginla. That's the scuttlebutt

Calgary beat guy
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:22 PM ET
Older crowd, but here it goes for those of us born in the 90's.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:22 PM ET
if this draft is that solid, the flyers should be open to trading coburn for a 1st rndr+.
coby will rebound, but i think he looks like a guy who's a little too comfortable here. I'd want a top 4 prospect in addition to the pick...given what dreck is fetching these days, it's doable.

- isaiah520


I would not trade Coburn unless there was an NHL defenseman in the return.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 27 @ 9:22 PM ET
The trouble with TyMy is his massive contract. If he returns to the form he showed as a rookie, great. If not, you have a $5.7mm hit as a third pair defenseman
- Jsaquella

I'd gamble that there'll always be an org that thinks they can salvage him. pronger was no world beater out of the gate, iirc.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:22 PM ET
The Grandmother from Flowers in the Attic? **Shudders**
- aosplayo


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:23 PM ET
@GeorgejohnsonCH

The 2 kids - Bartkowski and Khoklachev, plus a 1st-rounder - for Iginla. That's the scuttlebutt

Calgary beat guy

- Jsaquella


Pretty steep price for 15 games + playoffs.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:23 PM ET
Older crowd, but here it goes for those of us born in the 90's.


- flyer_nutter



looks awesome
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:23 PM ET
[quote=flyer_nutter]Older crowd, but here it goes for those of us born in the 90's.

Barbie Girl, nice
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:24 PM ET
@GeorgejohnsonCH

The 2 kids - Bartkowski and Khoklachev, plus a 1st-rounder - for Iginla. That's the scuttlebutt

Calgary beat guy

- Jsaquella


Don't know much about the kids. Iginla is a great pickup for Boston. Better make it count.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 9:25 PM ET
I'd gamble that there'll always be an org that thinks they can salvage him. pronger was no world beater out of the gate, iirc.
- isaiah520


The big worry I have is that his decline has been steadily downward trending. Pronger was up and down in Hartford, before really finding his stride in St Louis.

The contract is the scary part, though. If he rebounds, it's fantastic. If he doesn't...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:25 PM ET
Don't know much about the kids. Iginla is a great pickup for Boston. Better make it count.
- MJL


Figure they sweep the Pens now right? Chara should have little trouble shutting down Kunitz and Dupuis.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:26 PM ET
Figure they sweep the Pens now right? Chara should have little trouble shutting down Kunitz and Dupuis.
- PLindbergh31


If you say so!
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Mar 27 @ 9:26 PM ET
I think you hit the key point. They don't know who they are, and how to play. that points in one direction. It's like a virus or a disease that has infected the entire team. The ability is there. But they play as individuals. They are fragile, and they don't know how to get out of this hole. The harder they try, the more frustrated they get. And then when something happens, they get down a goal or two. It all blows up. The players on this team, are not this bad. They lack direction. They've developed so many bad habits that haven't been corrected. Other teams against the Flyers are like a pack of Lions that pick out the wounded and the weak animal in the herd of gazelles to attack. The Rangers have been struggling offensively all year. Did they look like a struggling offensive team last night. It's not the players, it's the team that is the issue. If you know what I mean.

As far as the Defense is concerned. Meszaros injuries complicate the issue. But I think they're fine with Coburn, Schenn, and Grossmann. They need to find a replacement for Timonen for the future. And figure out if Gustafsson is going to be a piece moving forward.

- MJL



Snider wants one more cup so badly, that he chases what worked last year. This makes Homer do things which also affect the coach. They all need to be on the same page and than build the team. Stick with it, don't keep driving looking only in the rear view mirror.

I hate being negative but I'm down on this whole organization right now. These are the Philadelphia Flyers and this is the kind of BS team that is put out on the ice.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
Figure they sweep the Pens now right? Chara should have little trouble shutting down Kunitz and Dupuis.
- PLindbergh31


Montreal took down the giants a few years ago. I dont count out Price.

Boston would be the favourite for me right now probably though yes. Still waiting to see what Chicago does.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
If you say so!

- MJL


Not discounting the clear cut favorites the Rangers of course.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
Owen Sound - 0
Sault Ste Marie - 0

heading to OT
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
Don't know much about the kids. Iginla is a great pickup for Boston. Better make it count.
- MJL


I wish the Flyers would sell off some players. Be nice to add prospects and picks.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:28 PM ET
Snider wants one more cup so badly, that he chases what worked last year. This makes Homer do things which also affect the coach. They all need to be on the same page and than build the team. Stick with it, don't keep driving looking only in the rear view mirror.

I hate being negative but I'm down on this whole organization right now. These are the Philadelphia Flyers and this is the kind of BS team that is put out on the ice.

- LJF


What I know is that the talent base is there for this team to be a really good team for a good number of years. So this year is a disappointment. Only goes up from here.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:29 PM ET
Montreal took down the giants a few years ago. I dont count out Price.

Boston would be the favourite for me right now probably though yes. Still waiting to see what Chicago does.

- flyer_nutter


The SCF champions will come from these 5 teams. Bruins, Pens, Hawks, Ducks, Kings.

Not exactly going out on a limb. Montreal would be in the next group with the Rags.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:29 PM ET
I wish the Flyers would sell off some players. Be nice to add prospects and picks.
- stveshdy


They only have a few players to sell off. Not expecting much.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:30 PM ET
Not discounting the clear cut favorites the Rangers of course.
- PLindbergh31


It's the Stanley Cup playoffs. Get in and anything can happen.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 27 @ 9:30 PM ET
What I know is that the talent base is there for this team to be a really good team for a good number of years. So this year is a disappointment. Only goes up from here.
- MJL


Have to hope the talent hits its potential.

Right now they have holes to fill and need an identity.
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