poulin not nilsson and i'd trade the 2014 1st rounder..this draft is too deep
- NYI78

What about it from the Kings' perspective? I'd think they'd do the Poulin and 2013 first in a heartbeat. I don't know if they'd do the deal for the 2014 first rounder.

Not sure. It depends if Iggy made it clear to management that he would only go to Pitt. If he didn't then I would think a lot of teams did inquire.
- Vukota

I have no doubt Pittsburgh was his first choice, mainly because of Crosby. I think Feaster could have pulled a bit more out of this one but if he was limited to Boston and Pittsburgh, I guess the offers weren't that great.

I agree and if a team trades a first, its going to be a late first, from a team that's going to finish among the top of the league. I doubt Streit brings back a first. Vis might, but I sincerely doubt it. I think the best you do for them is a second rounder, the best you get for Boyes and Nabby are third rounders.
- Jethro09

Regardless if they are fighting for that last spot, they have to trade Viz if they can't resign him. They might be only two points out but we all know this team has major flaws and if by a miracle they sneak in they will get swept by either the Bruins or Pens. Teams might get desperate at the deadline and overpay for him.

I agree and if a team trades a first, its going to be a late first, from a team that's going to finish among the top of the league. I doubt Streit brings back a first. Vis might, but I sincerely doubt it. I think the best you do for them is a second rounder, the best you get for Boyes and Nabby are third rounders.
- Jethro09

your underestimating how much good teams need help on their power play..once again look at the kaberle deal..once again i wouldn't be shopping these players...i'd listen...aslo i wouldn't trade both just one...

What about it from the Kings' perspective? I'd think they'd do the Poulin and 2013 first in a heartbeat. I don't know if they'd do the deal for the 2014 first rounder.
- Jethro09

i wouldn't trade nilsson and i wouldn't want to move this years pick...maybe through in another prospect

I would do that if the Isles fall out of the top 7or 8 in the draft. I might do that regardless if they took poulin instead
- Vukota

Its a very intriguing deal. I'm not really down on Poulin or Nilsson at all, I just think Bernier is more of a sure thing to have a higher ceiling. In a division with goaltenders like Ward, Lundqvist and Fleury (I didn't mention Brodeur because he is likely to retire soon), you need a top tier goaltender. Bernier can be and is projected to be that guy and he's young, so he can grow with the rest of the core of the Islanders.

I have no doubt Pittsburgh was his first choice, mainly because of Crosby. I think Feaster could have pulled a bit more out of this one but if he was limited to Boston and Pittsburgh, I guess the offers weren't that great.
- keaner17

From what I read the Bruins offer was legit and much better then the Pens but Iggy said Pitt and that's it. Pitt should have then said we are taking the 1st out of the deal

Its a very intriguing deal. I'm not really down on Poulin or Nilsson at all, I just think Bernier is more of a sure thing to have a higher ceiling. In a division with goaltenders like Ward, Lundqvist and Fleury (I didn't mention Brodeur because he is likely to retire soon), you need a top tier goaltender. Bernier can be and is projected to be that guy and he's young, so he can grow with the rest of the core of the Islanders.
- Jethro09

Sign me up

I stand corrected he is a RFA after this season. I thought I read somewhere he was going to be a UFA at years end. My bad
- Vukota

Its all good!

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your underestimating how much good teams need help on their power play..once again look at the kaberle deal..once again i wouldn't be shopping these players...i'd listen...aslo i wouldn't trade both just one...
- NYI78

If some team offered a first for Vis, I'd likely pull the trigger, since I think there is no chance he re-signs after this season. I just don't think teams are offering first rounders for Vis. Maybe Boston is a bit desperate now after seeing what Pitt's done and losing out on Iginla? Maybe they offer a first rounder? But I'd be hesitant to move Vis in a playoff chase if you don't re-sign Streit first. Personally, I don't see what the hold-up is in re-signing Streit. It seems that there is a deal to be made there if both sides really want to continue the relationship.

Half the league was interested in him. You keep mentioning the Bruins like they were the only team outside of Pitt that was interested.
- Vukota

Iginla only approved a move to the Pens, Bruins, Hawks or Kings. But the point is Boston's offer was better, Feaster did Iginla a solid in sending him where he wanted to go most but he did the Flames a terrible disservice by honouring Iginla's wishes. The Flames as an organization were in no position not to take the absolute best offer.

Its a very intriguing deal. I'm not really down on Poulin or Nilsson at all, I just think Bernier is more of a sure thing to have a higher ceiling. In a division with goaltenders like Ward, Lundqvist and Fleury (I didn't mention Brodeur because he is likely to retire soon), you need a top tier goaltender. Bernier can be and is projected to be that guy and he's young, so he can grow with the rest of the core of the Islanders.
- Jethro09

I dunno....I hate to deal one of our goaltenders for another goaltender at this stage. I'm willing to see how Nilson pans out as I think he can be our guy for the next couple of years. I still believe Koskinen will eventually be our franchise goaltender though.

well at least Bruno Gervais is in the lineup for Philly tonight...big plus for us!

If some team offered a first for Vis, I'd likely pull the trigger, since I think there is no chance he re-signs after this season. I just don't think teams are offering first rounders for Vis. Maybe Boston is a bit desperate now after seeing what Pitt's done and losing out on Iginla? Maybe they offer a first rounder? But I'd be hesitant to move Vis in a playoff chase if you don't re-sign Streit first. Personally, I don't see what the hold-up is in re-signing Streit. It seems that there is a deal to be made there if both sides really want to continue the relationship.
- Jethro09

Right now Streit would like to stay with the Isles, but his asking price is still a bit high.. he's our #1 D-men but he wants to be paid like other #1's on the league & he's not worth that

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If some team offered a first for Vis, I'd likely pull the trigger, since I think there is no chance he re-signs after this season. I just don't think teams are offering first rounders for Vis. Maybe Boston is a bit desperate now after seeing what Pitt's done and losing out on Iginla? Maybe they offer a first rounder? But I'd be hesitant to move Vis in a playoff chase if you don't re-sign Streit first. Personally, I don't see what the hold-up is in re-signing Streit. It seems that there is a deal to be made there if both sides really want to continue the relationship.
- Jethro09

If the reports of him wanting $5million per season hold any water, that's likely the hold up right there. No way i want this team shelling out that type of money for him now.

well at least Bruno Gervais is in the lineup for Philly tonight...big plus for us!
- NewYawkIslandez

Hopefullly he doesn't manhandle KO again...

I dunno....I hate to deal one of our goaltenders for another goaltender at this stage. I'm willing to see how Nilson pans out as I think he can be our guy for the next couple of years. I still believe Koskinen will eventually be our franchise goaltender though.
- keaner17

I agree but with his health issues up in the air & Koskinen at least 2 years away from even smelling the NHL... Its too important of a position to leave to hopes & dreams.. if you can turn an asset that you are going to lose to FA into a SOLID upgrade... you have to do it

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I dunno....I hate to deal one of our goaltenders for another goaltender at this stage. I'm willing to see how Nilson pans out as I think he can be our guy for the next couple of years. I still believe Koskinen will eventually be our franchise goaltender though.
- keaner17

if healthy Nilsson is the best prospect of the bunch..i;d put miiko two and poulin three...nilsson has the best combo of size, athleticism and techinique

I agree but with his health issues up in the air & Koskinen at least 2 years away from even smelling the NHL... Its too important of a position to leave to hopes & dreams.. if you can turn an asset that you are going to lose to FA into a SOLID upgrade... you have to do it

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- XxNYIxX

i agree bernier is a nice play right now..wouldn't have to rush the kids

I dunno....I hate to deal one of our goaltenders for another goaltender at this stage. I'm willing to see how Nilson pans out as I think he can be our guy for the next couple of years. I still believe Koskinen will eventually be our franchise goaltender though.
- keaner17

I don't know. Poulin was taken in 2008, Nilsson in 2009. Neither guy has blown anyone's doors off in the organization. Nilsson has a health concern now. It really depends on the ceiling of the players involved. From what i've read, Bernier is expected to be a better goaltender than Nilsson or Poulin, even a top tier goaltender. I'm not hearing that chatter about Nilsson or Poulin.

I agree but with his health issues up in the air & Koskinen at least 2 years away from even smelling the NHL... Its too important of a position to leave to hopes & dreams.. if you can turn an asset that you are going to lose to FA into a SOLID upgrade... you have to do it

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- XxNYIxX

Absolutely, I'm all for getting value of our potential UFA's, just not sure I want to focuse on the goaltender position when we have three prospects all nearing NHL maturity.

If the reports of him wanting $5million per season hold any water, that's likely the hold up right there. No way i want this team shelling out that type of money for him now.
- keaner17

I'd offer him either 3 years, $9 M or two years, $7.5 M. I think those are fair offers.

I don't know. Poulin was taken in 2008, Nilsson in 2009. Neither guy has blown anyone's doors off in the organization. Nilsson has a health concern now. It really depends on the ceiling of the players involved. From what i've read, Bernier is expected to be a better goaltender than Nilsson or Poulin, even a top tier goaltender. I'm not hearing that chatter about Nilsson or Poulin.
- Jethro09

I think it's believed that Nilsson could potentially be one. Poulin's hype came from Patrick Roy and I can't say I've been overly impressed, though it would be nice if he actually got some playing time.

I've heard that Nilsson is putting weight back on which means they likely found a solution to his B12 issues. That should be in the rearview mirror at this point since the biggest issues in thoses cases tend to be finding how to get the body to accept the vitamin.

I'd offer him either 3 years, $9 M or two years, $7.5 M. I think those are fair offers.
- Jethro09

I like two years...not wild about having him play here until he's 40.

I made this point yesterday...didn't work. Teams are not trading first round picks for dman right now.
- keaner17

Ok. When do you expect them to start?