Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Season from Hell Continues
Author Message
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 29 @ 12:45 PM ET
like losing kane?
- 2Real


Ugh, doesn't that one still sting.. cry.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 29 @ 12:46 PM ET
i hope he's gone if no deals are made by the TDL
we have a deep draft and many people looking to buy
good time to break up our crappy patchwork team

- 2Real

what if no one wants the Flyers UFAs to be?
it takes two teams to make a trade.
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Mar 29 @ 12:47 PM ET
Buzzcut! How's the water in your tires?

Last time they were really good? 2009-10 until about Mid-November when they fell so far it cost Stevens his job.

- Flyskippy


That sounds familiar ... Was the last really dominant regular season 1985-86?

The tires are watered for Spring.

We're watchin' out for snakes and honking if we love Eegah.

Nice use of Hired, Part 2 (Electric Boogaloo), earlier.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 29 @ 12:47 PM ET
Flyers won't finish below Florida and Colorado (I think).

They likely will be in the bottom 5 though, especially with the injuries.

With the draft lottery I hope for the best but expect the worst.

- Marc D


Any pick, properly vetted, has a lot of potential; any pick inside the top 10 this year is almost certainly an upgrade for the Flyers.

Jones, Nurse, Zadorov, Ristolainen...apparently if we drafted any one of them they would immediately become the top prospect, across all positions, for the Flyers.

I think we should send Feds somewhere, let him play in the post-season, and get something in return for one of our few valuable ufa assets.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 29 @ 12:49 PM ET
At least he agreed to go somewhere unlike Mats Sundin in TO.
- Flyskippy


Very true.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 29 @ 12:55 PM ET
I think Iginla said 4 teams, then when it came to the last moment told Feaster he preferred to be a Pen. Feaster accommodated him because he is Iginla.

The deals offered were not significantly different (at least to me, I guess if you follow the prospects closely maybe there is a bigger difference).

And a first pick and two prospects is in reality pretty fair for a 35 yr old rental even if it is Iginla.

- Marc D


But apparently (and none of us really know), the deal with Boston was done, meaning Feaster and the Flames liked what they were getting, but Iginla put the kibosh on it.

And based upon all the reports of Iginla being a Bruin - it went beyond speculation to a done deal with all the details - it seems likely something like that happened.

I just read Ryan Miller gave a list of the 8 teams he wouldn't play for...meaning 21 teams he'd be ok accepting a trade to. I respect that a lot more.

Granted, I understand Iginla's reasoning, but that doesn't mean I haven't lost a lot of respect for him and in no way want him to get his name on the cup. Lots of solid, respectable, stand-up players have never even gotten to the finals, so I'm not inclined to feel bad for Jarome.

"Later that night, around a quarter to 12, I got a call from Jay saying it was the player's choice and he opted to go to Pittsburgh," Chiarelli said. "So we were out."


http://espn.go.com/boston...urned-trade-boston-bruins
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 29 @ 12:59 PM ET
But apparently (and none of us really know), the deal with Boston was done, meaning Feaster and the Flames liked what they were getting, but Iginla put the kibosh on it.

And based upon all the reports of Iginla being a Bruin - it went beyond speculation to a done deal with all the details - it seems likely something like that happened.

I just read Ryan Miller gave a list of the 8 teams he wouldn't play for...meaning 22 teams he'd be ok accepting a trade to. I respect that a lot more.

Granted, I understand Iginla's reasoning, but that doesn't mean I haven't lost a lot of respect for him and in no way want him to get his name on the cup. Lots of solid, respectable, stand-up players have never even gotten to the finals, so I'm not inclined to feel bad for Jarome.



http://espn.go.com/boston...urned-trade-boston-bruins

- wolfhounds

I guess I can understand his desire to go play with Crosby.
It does have a bad flavor to it, and it might motivate Boston a lot if those two meet in the play offs.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 29 @ 1:00 PM ET
Time for my old ESPN standard, "Skippy Stats." This is the Flyers' record when scoring 2 or less goals compared to scoring 3 or more.

2 or less goals scored:
4-15-2 (1 SO loss, 1 OT loss - 1 SO win)

3 or more goals scored:
9-2-1 (1 SO loss - no SO wins)

The fact that the team has scored 3 or more goals just 12 times out of 33 games is rather lackluster. That's not very much goal support at all.

- Flyskippy

shows that we need to fix our defense so we can win those 2 goal games
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:03 PM ET
That sounds familiar ... Was the last really dominant regular season 1985-86?

The tires are watered for Spring.

We're watchin' out for snakes and honking if we love Eegah.

Nice use of Hired, Part 2 (Electric Boogaloo), earlier.

- MrBuzzcut



Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:04 PM ET
shows that we need to fix our defense so we can win those 2 goal games
- 2Real

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 29 @ 1:05 PM ET

- Flyskippy

EGG ON YOUR FACE ORANGE KOOLAID GLASSES
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:06 PM ET
But apparently (and none of us really know), the deal with Boston was done, meaning Feaster and the Flames liked what they were getting, but Iginla put the kibosh on it.

And based upon all the reports of Iginla being a Bruin - it went beyond speculation to a done deal with all the details - it seems likely something like that happened.

I just read Ryan Miller gave a list of the 8 teams he wouldn't play for...meaning 22 teams he'd be ok accepting a trade to. I respect that a lot more.

Granted, I understand Iginla's reasoning, but that doesn't mean I haven't lost a lot of respect for him and in no way want him to get his name on the cup. Lots of solid, respectable, stand-up players have never even gotten to the finals, so I'm not inclined to feel bad for Jarome.



http://espn.go.com/boston...urned-trade-boston-bruins

- wolfhounds


Don't forget the point Jsaq brought up the other day: Bruins' owner Jeremy Jacobs was notorious this past lockout for his hard-line stance against the players. No better way to get back at him than to refuse a trade there.
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Mar 29 @ 1:07 PM ET



- Flyskippy



Hired 2 is hilarious ...

"He's selling a car to Floyd the Barber!"
strongsupporter
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 29 @ 1:08 PM ET
Its posts like this that drag down the whole room. This from the guy who is most concerned about shootouts.

- MBFlyerfan

It was a light hearted attempt at humor.
I underestimated the level of seriousness on the site.
My apologies.
I am not sure about the shootout reference but I am sure it must have been important for you to mention it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Don't forget the point Jsaq brought up the other day: Bruins' owner Jeremy Jacobs was notorious this past lockout for his hard-line stance against the players. No better way to get back at him than to refuse a trade there.
- Flyskippy



But Iginla named Boston as one of the teams he would accept a trade to.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Mar 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Flyers won't finish below Florida and Colorado (I think).

They likely will be in the bottom 5 though, especially with the injuries.

With the draft lottery I hope for the best but expect the worst.

- Marc D

And now all the teams that don't make the playoffs are in the lottery
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:11 PM ET
But Iginla named Boston as one of the teams he would accept a trade to.
- MJL

Hmm. Maybe he's an evil genius? "Set them up and then say, 'No.'"

MWUAH-HA-HA-HA-HA!

EDIT: Sorry. That's all I got.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
Hired 2 is hilarious ...

"He's selling a car to Floyd the Barber!"

- MrBuzzcut


*cough, gag* TEN cars?!?
strongsupporter
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
It was a light hearted attempt at humor.
I underestimated the level of seriousness on the site.
My apologies.
I am not sure about the shootout reference but I am sure it must have been important for you to mention it.

- strongsupporter

By the way, an interesting stat. Apparently 13% of NHL games have gone to a shootout in the past seven years. Probably right to be concerned about it.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
But Iginla named Boston as one of the teams he would accept a trade to.
- MJL

He did. Then, he changed his mind, leaving Mr. Jacobs team holding the bag. Unscrupulous? Surely, but if the goal was to get a jab in at Jacobs, he certainly accomplished it to a degree.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
Flyers won't sink below Florida but I think Colorado surpasses us. Any update on coburn?

Anyone eligible to trade??
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Mar 29 @ 1:21 PM ET
Does anyone know how the draft lottery works this year? Is it only the first pick that is subject to draft, or the entire order of non-playoff teams? Is there protection that you can't fall more than x number of places.

Yes, like many Flyers fans I have a fatalistic attitude about the draft, and am expecting Kane redux!
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 29 @ 1:24 PM ET
Does anyone know how the draft lottery works this year? Is it only the first pick that is subject to draft, or the entire order of non-playoff teams? Is there protection that you can't fall more than x number of places.

Yes, like many Flyers fans I have a fatalistic attitude about the draft, and am expecting Kane redux!

- TheGreat28


This year all teams not making the play-offs have a chance to get the #1 pick. However no team can lose more than 1 spot in the standings. So say #14 wins the lottery then they would drop to #1 and everyone else would adjust one back.
Stealing from Nick earlier in the week here are the percentages:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=658503

The likelihood of each team gaining the right to the first pick is as follows:

Team 1 25.0%

Team 2 18.8%

Team 3 14.2%

Team 4 10.7%

Team 5 8.1%

Team 6 6.2%

Team 7 4.7%

Team 8 3.6%

Team 9 2.7%

Team 10 2.1%

Team 11 1.5%

Team 12 1.1%

Team 13 0.8%

Team 14 0.5%
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 29 @ 1:26 PM ET
This year all teams not making the play-offs have a chance to get the #1 pick. However no team can lose more than 1 spot in the standings. So say #14 wins the lottery then they would drop to #1 and everyone else would adjust one back.
Stealing from Nick earlier in the week here are the percentages:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=658503

The likelihood of each team gaining the right to the first pick is as follows:

Team 1 25.0%

Team 2 18.8%

Team 3 14.2%

Team 4 10.7%

Team 5 8.1%

Team 6 6.2%

Team 7 4.7%

Team 8 3.6%

Team 9 2.7%

Team 10 2.1%

Team 11 1.5%

Team 12 1.1%

Team 13 0.8%

Team 14 0.5%

- FlyersGrace

Yeah, we're getting boned on the first pick, even if we get dead last. I have zero faith we'll get it.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 29 @ 1:44 PM ET
Flyers won't sink below Florida but I think Colorado surpasses us. Any update on coburn?

Anyone eligible to trade??

- Just5


Will see what happens.

The Flyers can trade mostly anybody. They have some pieces but thats up to the GM if he thinks its going to improve the club.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31  Next