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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 22 @ 11:31 PM ET



http://wattsupwiththat.co...ornia-history-not-really/
As shown in this chart from the Western Regional Climate Center website (http://www.wrcc.dri.edu) — this is not even the 2nd driest water year for California in the last 120 years.

The driest year was 1924 (9.23 inches, or 40% of normal). The current water year (October 2013 through September 2014) ranks as the 3rd driest in the last 120 years (at 52% of normal).

As for the claim that this is the worst multi-year drought in California history – look at the period of 1910-40 on the WRCC chart. Wow… that was really a dry 30 year period.

Do these facts mean that we are in good shape re California’s water supply? No!

But we shouldn’t be framing the search for a stable California water supply by starting from a wildly incorrect statement that seems focused on creating public panic.

If we begin our search for a solution from reality, it is more likely that we can achieve a realistic long term solution.

- Doppleganger


Booooorrrrrrriiiiiiinnnnngggggg
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Mar 22 @ 11:58 PM ET
Booooorrrrrrriiiiiiinnnnngggggg
- Crimsoninja

lets add a long cat

Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Mar 22 @ 11:59 PM ET

Patrick Moore, Ph.D., has been a leader in international environmentalism for more than 40 years. He cofounded Greenpeace and currently serves as chair of Allow Golden Rice. Moore received the 2014 Speaks Truth to Power Award at the Ninth International Conference on Climate Change, July 8, in Las Vegas.

I am skeptical humans are the main cause of climate change and that it will be catastrophic in the near future. There is no scientific proof of this hypothesis, yet we are told “the debate is over” and “the science is settled.”

My skepticism begins with the believers’ certainty they can predict the global climate with a computer model. The entire basis for the doomsday climate change scenario is the hypothesis increased atmospheric carbon dioxide due to fossil fuel emissions will heat the Earth to unlivable temperatures.

In fact, the Earth has been warming very gradually for 300 years, since the Little Ice Age ended, long before heavy use of fossil fuels. Prior to the Little Ice Age, during the Medieval Warm Period, Vikings colonized Greenland and Newfoundland, when it was warmer there than today. And during Roman times, it was warmer, long before fossil fuels revolutionized civilization.

The idea it would be catastrophic if carbon dioxide were to increase and average global temperature were to rise a few degrees is preposterous.

Recently, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) announced for the umpteenth time we are doomed unless we reduce carbon-dioxide emissions to zero. Effectively this means either reducing the population to zero, or going back 10,000 years before humans began clearing forests for agriculture. This proposed cure is far worse than adapting to a warmer world, if it actually comes about.

IPCC Conflict of Interest

By its constitution, the IPCC has a hopeless conflict of interest. Its mandate is to consider only the human causes of global warming, not the many natural causes changing the climate for billions of years. We don’t understand the natural causes of climate change any more than we know if humans are part of the cause at present. If the IPCC did not find humans were the cause of warming, or if it found warming would be more positive than negative, there would be no need for the IPCC under its present mandate. To survive, it must find on the side of the apocalypse.

The IPCC should either have its mandate expanded to include all causes of climate change, or it should be dismantled.

Political Powerhouse

Climate change has become a powerful political force for many reasons. First, it is universal; we are told everything on Earth is threatened. Second, it invokes the two most powerful human motivators: fear and guilt. We fear driving our car will kill our grandchildren, and we feel guilty for doing it.

Third, there is a powerful convergence of interests among key elites that support the climate “narrative.” Environmentalists spread fear and raise donations; politicians appear to be saving the Earth from doom; the media has a field day with sensation and conflict; science institutions raise billions in grants, create whole new departments, and stoke a feeding frenzy of scary scenarios; business wants to look green, and get huge public subsidies for projects that would otherwise be economic losers, such as wind farms and solar arrays. Fourth, the Left sees climate change as a perfect means to redistribute wealth from industrial countries to the developing world and the UN bureaucracy.

So we are told carbon dioxide is a “toxic” “pollutant” that must be curtailed, when in fact it is a colorless, odorless, tasteless, gas and the most important food for life on earth. Without carbon dioxide above 150 parts per million, all plants would die.

Human Emissions Saved Planet

Over the past 150 million years, carbon dioxide had been drawn down steadily (by plants) from about 3,000 parts per million to about 280 parts per million before the Industrial Revolution. If this trend continued, the carbon dioxide level would have become too low to support life on Earth. Human fossil fuel use and clearing land for crops have boosted carbon dioxide from its lowest level in the history of the Earth back to 400 parts per million today.

At 400 parts per million, all our food crops, forests, and natural ecosystems are still on a starvation diet for carbon dioxide. The optimum level of carbon dioxide for plant growth, given enough water and nutrients, is about 1,500 parts per million, nearly four times higher than today. Greenhouse growers inject carbon-dioxide to increase yields. Farms and forests will produce more if carbon-dioxide keeps rising.

We have no proof increased carbon dioxide is responsible for the earth’s slight warming over the past 300 years. There has been no significant warming for 18 years while we have emitted 25 per cent of all the carbon dioxide ever emitted. Carbon dioxide is vital for life on Earth and plants would like more of it. Which should we emphasize to our children?

Celebrate Carbon Dioxide

The IPCC’s followers have given us a vision of a world dying because of carbon-dioxide emissions. I say the Earth would be a lot deader with no carbon dioxide, and more of it will be a very positive factor in feeding the world. Let’s celebrate carbon dioxide.

Patrick Moore ([email protected]) was a cofounder and leader of Greenpeace for 15 years. He is now chair and spokesman for Allow Golden Rice.




kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Mar 24 @ 1:18 PM ET
waaaaaah! waaaaaaah!

watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Mar 24 @ 2:42 PM ET
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Mar 26 @ 7:50 AM ET



“Importantly,” said the surveyors, “even as global warming has received greater attention as an environmental problem from politicians and the media in recent years, Americans' worry about it is no higher now than when Gallup first asked about it in 1989.”
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 26 @ 10:49 AM ET



“Importantly,” said the surveyors, “even as global warming has received greater attention as an environmental problem from politicians and the media in recent years, Americans' worry about it is no higher now than when Gallup first asked about it in 1989.”

- Doppleganger


Talk about using the sheeple defense.

Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Mar 26 @ 11:02 AM ET
Talk about using the sheeple defense.
- wolfhounds


There are way more sheeple in Canada (% of PoP.), than the USA.
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
HUGE heat wave coming this weekend guys
aschuter82
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Cypress Creek
Joined: 06.18.2010

Mar 30 @ 2:59 PM ET
There are way more sheeple in Canada (% of PoP.), than the USA.
- Doppleganger

Think the Indians will be any good this year?
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Mar 30 @ 3:29 PM ET
Think the Indians will be any good this year?
- aschuter82

the Detroit Tigers are the team to beat, they have it all
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Mar 30 @ 3:49 PM ET
HUGE heat wave coming this weekend guys
- the_cause2000

Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Mar 31 @ 4:16 PM ET

Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA): Global Warming Will Turn Women Into Prostitutes

http://www.theburningplat...n-women-into-prostitutes/
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Mar 31 @ 4:22 PM ET




Bad News, Climate Change Alarmists: North Korea Is Destroying You At Earth Hour
March 28, 2015 By Sean Davis

It’s that time of year again, when Luddites the world over decide to pay homage to science by snuffing out the lights and begging the mercy of the almighty climate gods. That’s right: it’s Earth Hour. Earth Hour is when climate activists attempt to put their money in the same vicinity as their mouths by turning off their lights from 8:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m.

“Use your power to change climate change,” EarthHour.org blares (that the coal-powered server farm supporting the online machinations of climate change activists has decidedly refused to shut down the power is a discussion for another day). Because nothing says “I’m doing my part,” like turning off your lights for precisely 0.0114 percent of the calendar year. If that’s not commitment, then I don’t know what is.

Here’s the thing, though: when it comes to Earth Hour, there ain’t no party like a North Korea party ‘cuz a North Korea party literally has no power. North Korea is the all-time world champion of Earth Hour. Why? Because North Korea doesn’t just keep the lights off for one of the 8,760 hours that pass each year, North Korea goes FULL EARTH HOUR 24/7.
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:29 PM ET




Bad News, Climate Change Alarmists: North Korea Is Destroying You At Earth Hour
March 28, 2015 By Sean Davis

It’s that time of year again, when Luddites the world over decide to pay homage to science by snuffing out the lights and begging the mercy of the almighty climate gods. That’s right: it’s Earth Hour. Earth Hour is when climate activists attempt to put their money in the same vicinity as their mouths by turning off their lights from 8:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m.

“Use your power to change climate change,” EarthHour.org blares (that the coal-powered server farm supporting the online machinations of climate change activists has decidedly refused to shut down the power is a discussion for another day). Because nothing says “I’m doing my part,” like turning off your lights for precisely 0.0114 percent of the calendar year. If that’s not commitment, then I don’t know what is.

Here’s the thing, though: when it comes to Earth Hour, there ain’t no party like a North Korea party ‘cuz a North Korea party literally has no power. North Korea is the all-time world champion of Earth Hour. Why? Because North Korea doesn’t just keep the lights off for one of the 8,760 hours that pass each year, North Korea goes FULL EARTH HOUR 24/7.

- Doppleganger


We salute you North Korea, keep up the good work
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Mar 31 @ 4:36 PM ET
We salute you North Korea, keep up the good work
- the_cause2000

watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 1 @ 4:09 PM ET
Gov. Jerry Brown has imposed mandatory water restrictions for the first time on California residents, businesses and farms, ordering cities and towns to reduce usage by 25%.

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 2 @ 12:55 PM ET
Gov. Jerry Brown has imposed mandatory water restrictions for the first time on California residents, businesses and farms, ordering cities and towns to reduce usage by 25%.


- watsonnostaw


Drought and forest fires are a figment of your imagination. And humans can't change the environment, only God can do that.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 2 @ 1:26 PM ET
like 65 degrees here today.

WE DID THIS!!
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 2 @ 1:49 PM ET
like 65 degrees here today.

WE DID THIS!!

- kicksave856


Stupid spring in April.
aschuter82
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Cypress Creek
Joined: 06.18.2010

Apr 2 @ 3:15 PM ET
the Detroit Tigers are the team to beat, they have it all
- watsonnostaw

(frank) everything about the Tigers. Except Miggy. That guy is awesome.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 2 @ 8:46 PM ET
The White House, Washington



Today, the United States, together with our allies and partners, reached a historic understanding with Iran.

If fully implemented, this framework will prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, making our nation, our allies, and our world safer.

For decades, Iran has been advancing its nuclear program. When I took office, Iran was operating thousands of centrifuges -- which can produce the materials for a nuclear bomb -- and was concealing a secret nuclear facility. I made it clear that the United States was prepared to find a diplomatic resolution, if Iran came to the table in a serious way.

But that didn't happen.

So we rallied the world to impose the toughest sanctions in history, profoundly impacting Iran's economy. Sanctions couldn't stop Iran's nuclear program on their own, but they helped bring Iran to the negotiating table.

And after many months of tough and principled diplomacy, the United States -- joined by the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Russia, China, and the European Union -- achieved the framework for a deal that will cut off every pathway Iran could take to develop a nuclear weapon.

I want you to understand exactly what this deal entails:

First, it stops Iran from pursuing a bomb using plutonium, because Iran will not develop weapons-grade plutonium. The core of its reactor at Arak will be dismantled and replaced. The spent fuel from that facility will be shipped out of Iran for the life of the reactor. Iran will not build a new heavy-water reactor. And Iran will never reprocess fuel from its existing reactors.

Second, it shuts down Iran's path to a bomb using enriched uranium. Iran has agreed to reduce its installed centrifuges by two-thirds. It will no longer enrich uranium at its Fordow facility, and it will not enrich uranium with its advanced centrifuges for at least the next 10 years. And the vast majority of its stockpile of enriched uranium will be neutralized.

Third, it provides the best possible defense against Iran's ability to pursue a nuclear weapon in secret. Iran has agreed to the most robust and intrusive inspections and transparency regime ever negotiated for any nuclear program in history. International inspectors will have unprecedented access not only to Iranian nuclear facilities, but to the entire supply chain that supports Iran's nuclear program -- from uranium mills that provide the raw materials, to the centrifuge production and storage facilities that support the program.

If Iran cheats, the world will know.

In return for Iran's actions, the international community has agreed to provide Iran with relief from certain sanctions -- our own sanctions, and international sanctions imposed by the United Nations Security Council. This relief will be tied to the steps Iran takes to adhere to the deal. And if Iran violates the deal, sanctions can be snapped back into place. Meanwhile, other American sanctions on Iran -- for its support of terrorism, its human rights abuses, and its ballistic missile program -- will be fully enforced.

Now, our work is not yet done. Negotiators will continue to work through the details of how this framework will be fully implemented, and those details matter. And let me be clear: If Iran backslides, and the verification and inspection mechanisms don't meet the specifications of our nuclear and security experts, there will be no deal.

But if we can get this done, and Iran follows through on the framework that our negotiators agreed to, we will be able to peacefully resolve one of the gravest threats to the security of our nation, our allies, and the world.

Learn more about today's historic deal and how it will make the United States, our allies, and our world safer:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/Iran-deal

Thank you,

President Barack Obama
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 2 @ 8:51 PM ET
The White House, Washington



Today, the United States, together with our allies and partners, reached a historic understanding with Iran.

If fully implemented, this framework will prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, making our nation, our allies, and our world safer.

For decades, Iran has been advancing its nuclear program. When I took office, Iran was operating thousands of centrifuges -- which can produce the materials for a nuclear bomb -- and was concealing a secret nuclear facility. I made it clear that the United States was prepared to find a diplomatic resolution, if Iran came to the table in a serious way.

But that didn't happen.

So we rallied the world to impose the toughest sanctions in history, profoundly impacting Iran's economy. Sanctions couldn't stop Iran's nuclear program on their own, but they helped bring Iran to the negotiating table.

And after many months of tough and principled diplomacy, the United States -- joined by the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Russia, China, and the European Union -- achieved the framework for a deal that will cut off every pathway Iran could take to develop a nuclear weapon.

I want you to understand exactly what this deal entails:

First, it stops Iran from pursuing a bomb using plutonium, because Iran will not develop weapons-grade plutonium. The core of its reactor at Arak will be dismantled and replaced. The spent fuel from that facility will be shipped out of Iran for the life of the reactor. Iran will not build a new heavy-water reactor. And Iran will never reprocess fuel from its existing reactors.

Second, it shuts down Iran's path to a bomb using enriched uranium. Iran has agreed to reduce its installed centrifuges by two-thirds. It will no longer enrich uranium at its Fordow facility, and it will not enrich uranium with its advanced centrifuges for at least the next 10 years. And the vast majority of its stockpile of enriched uranium will be neutralized.

Third, it provides the best possible defense against Iran's ability to pursue a nuclear weapon in secret. Iran has agreed to the most robust and intrusive inspections and transparency regime ever negotiated for any nuclear program in history. International inspectors will have unprecedented access not only to Iranian nuclear facilities, but to the entire supply chain that supports Iran's nuclear program -- from uranium mills that provide the raw materials, to the centrifuge production and storage facilities that support the program.

If Iran cheats, the world will know.

In return for Iran's actions, the international community has agreed to provide Iran with relief from certain sanctions -- our own sanctions, and international sanctions imposed by the United Nations Security Council. This relief will be tied to the steps Iran takes to adhere to the deal. And if Iran violates the deal, sanctions can be snapped back into place. Meanwhile, other American sanctions on Iran -- for its support of terrorism, its human rights abuses, and its ballistic missile program -- will be fully enforced.

Now, our work is not yet done. Negotiators will continue to work through the details of how this framework will be fully implemented, and those details matter. And let me be clear: If Iran backslides, and the verification and inspection mechanisms don't meet the specifications of our nuclear and security experts, there will be no deal.

But if we can get this done, and Iran follows through on the framework that our negotiators agreed to, we will be able to peacefully resolve one of the gravest threats to the security of our nation, our allies, and the world.

Learn more about today's historic deal and how it will make the United States, our allies, and our world safer:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/Iran-deal

Thank you,

President Barack Obama

- watsonnostaw

yeah, but he's black.

and a democrat.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 2 @ 8:53 PM ET
yeah, but he's black.

and a democrat.

- kicksave856

dont make me long tail you
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 2 @ 8:56 PM ET
dont make me long tail you
- watsonnostaw

lol long tail

geesus christ.
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