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Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:15 PM ET
If there is any warming or cooling, its naturally occurring, not driven by human activity.

The Vikings grew barley in Greenland 1,000 years ago, during the Medieval Warm Period, so it must have been a lot warmer then.

The Maunder minimum which happened during the little Ice age was 300 years ago, during which Europe and North America experienced very cold winters.

Doubt in humans reduced their CO2 output between the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age.


- D0PPELGANGER

interesting how that graph clearly shows a rise in temperature
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 12 @ 12:34 PM ET
http://www.bostonglobe.co...R1EGErgBEO7MO/story.html#

The Big Unchill

The Arctic ice is melting faster than ever recorded, the warmth tied to the emissions of modern life. But it is the ancient ways at the top of the world that are most at risk.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 12 @ 12:44 PM ET
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
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Jul 26 @ 12:41 PM ET
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
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Jul 26 @ 12:53 PM ET
http://www.nasa.gov/conte...eaches-new-record-maximum




On Sept. 19, 2014, the five-day average of Antarctic sea ice extent exceeded 20 million square kilometers for the first time since 1979, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. The red line shows the average maximum extent from 1979-2014.
Credits: NASA's Scientific Visualization Studio/Cindy Starr
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
Is a mini ICE AGE on the way? Scientists warn the sun will 'go to sleep' in 2030 and could cause temperatures to plummet

New study claims to have cracked predicting solar cycles
Says that between 2030 and 2040 solar cycles will cancel each other out
Could lead to 'Maunder minimum' effect that saw River Thames freeze over





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.u...lummet.html#ixzz3fgBB0NpC
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
It’s the cold, not global warming, that we should be worried about

Each year, an official estimate is made of the “excess winter mortality” – that is, the number of people dying of cold-related illnesses. Last winter was relatively mild, and still 24,000 perished. The indications are that this winter, which has dragged on so long and with such brutality, will claim 30,000 lives, making it one of the biggest killers in the country. And still, no one seems upset.

read more
http://www.telegraph.co.u...uld-be-worried-about.html
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 26 @ 1:26 PM ET

The Overwhelming Judgment of Science Rejects Obama's Global Warming Claims


President Barack Obama in his second inauguration address called for new action to “respond to the threat of climate change.” Taking advantage of the bully pulpit and a huge national audience, Obama mustered his best possible arguments in a brief case for why addressing global warming is supposedly necessary. Unfortunately for global warming alarmists, Obama’s case was exceptionally flimsy. Then again, Obama did not have much to work with, as the overall case for global warming alarmism is exceptionally flimsy.

Obama presented his argument as follows: “Some may still deny the overwhelming judgment of science, but none can avoid the devastating impact of raging fires, and crippling drought, and more powerful storms.”
Given a fresh canvas on which to work, Obama sought the most compelling examples of an asserted global warming crisis. He chose wildfires, drought and powerful storms. At the same time, he urged us to defer to the “overwhelming judgment of science” on these matters.

President Obama, I agree we should strongly consider the overwhelming judgment of science. Let’s apply the overwhelming judgment of science to your three cherry-picked examples and see what the science reveals.

Leading off the Obama “Big Three” is wildfires. What does the overwhelming judgment of science reveal?

The National Interagency Fire Center reports the number of annual wildfires in the United States has been declining for more than 30 years. In fact, the “overwhelming judgment of science” reveals the number of wildfires rose from the 1950s through the 1970s, as global temperatures declined, and has been declining ever since, as global temperatures have modestly warmed.

The really interesting part about wildfires in the United States is a recent increase in the number of acres burned per wildfire after the federal government reversed a decades-long policy of putting out as many wildfires as quickly as possible. In the 1990s, environmentalists and federal forest officials reported forests had become overgrown as a result of firefighters putting out too many natural fires too quickly. Since then, firefighters are responding to fewer forest fires and letting more acres burn. As a result, even though wildfires occur less frequently as our planet warms and as soil moisture improves (more on that coming right up), our global warming Alarmist in Chief presents the misleading assertion that global warming rather than a change in federal wildfire policy is causing a recent increase in acres burned due to wildfires.

Next in Obama’s “Big Three” of asserted global warming crises is drought. What does the “overwhelming judgment of science” reveal?

U.S. and global soil moisture improved throughout the 20th century as our planet warmed in its recovery from the Little Ice Age. According to the Global Soil Moisture Data Bank, global soil moisture increased throughout the 20th century at almost all sites. Moreover, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reports that 20th century droughts were quite mild when compared to droughts in previous centuries. This “overwhelming scientific judgment of science” was confirmed in November when a study published in the peer-reviewed journal Nature found “there has been little change in drought over the past 60 years.”

Finally, the President asserts that global warming is causing more powerful storms. This assertion is particularly fictitious. NOAA reports a long-term decline in strong tornadoes striking the United States. The National Hurricane Center reports that the past 40 years have seen the fewest major hurricane strikes since at least the mid-1800s. Even Hurricane Sandy reminds us that the U.S. Northeast has experienced only one major hurricane strike since 1960, but experienced six major hurricane strikes during the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s, when global temperatures were cooler.

Clearly, the “overwhelming judgment of science” contradicts President Obama and global warming alarmists. This is a good thing.

Now let’s play a game of “pretend.”

Let’s pretend that none of the overwhelming scientific evidence presented above actually existed. Let’s pretend that science supported rather than contradicted President Obama’s assertions. The question is, what would Obama have us do to solve the problem?

Obama’s solution is to impose still more economy-killing carbon dioxide restrictions on the U.S. economy. This makes about as much sense as losing your car keys in Boston but insisting on searching for them in Los Angeles. True, global carbon dioxide emissions have risen more than 33 percent since the year 2000. However, U.S. carbon dioxide emissions have declined during that time and will continue to decline for the foreseeable future. The U.S. Energy Information Administration reports that during 2012 alone, U.S. carbon dioxide emissions declined by 8 percent compared to 2011.

China by far emits more carbon dioxide than any other nation and Chinese emissions are growing rapidly. China alone accounts for 75 percent of the global increase in carbon dioxide emissions since 2000. If the United States completely eliminated all of its carbon dioxide emissions today (something that is impossible to do), the only thing we would accomplish would be to delay by about five years an equal increase in Chinese emissions. And China has repeatedly and emphatically insisted it will not agree to any restrictions on its carbon dioxide emissions.

Thankfully, President Obama, the “overwhelming judgment of science” shows the asserted global warming crisis exists solely in the minds of global warming alarmists.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 26 @ 1:27 PM ET
Climate was HOTTER in Roman, medieval times than now: Study
IPCC has got it all wrong,

http://www.theregister.co..._study_of_climate_change/



In AD 1000, the Earth was experiencing an episode of climate warming similar to that of the present day. Temperatures in many parts of the world seem to have risen by at least two or three degrees Fahrenheit. Although the scale of this "global warming" may seem small, its effects on human societies were profound. In Europe, several centuries of long hot summers led to an almost unbroken string of good harvests, and both urban and rural populations began to grow. These centuries are known as the Medieval Warm Period. One of the more dramatic consequences of the Medieval Warm Period was the expansion of Viking settlements in the North Atlantic. From their Icelandic base (established in AD 870), the Norse people began to move west and north to Greenland, Canada, and eventually above the Arctic Circle.


The Medieval Warm Period was a time of warm weather around 800-1300 AD, during the European Medieval period. Initial research on the MWP and the following Little Ice Age (LIA) was largely done in Europe, where the phenomenon was most obvious and clearly documented. The Vikings took advantage of ice-free seas to colonize Greenland and other outlying lands of the far north.


"The climate at this time was very warm, much warmer than it is today, and crops were able to do well. It seems likely that the name "Greenland" was given to the country, not just as wishful thinking, but because it was a climatic fact at that time. The mild climatic period was fairly short-lived in geologic terms - by about 1200 AD, the ever-increasing cold was making life extremely difficult, and some years no supply ships were able to reach Greenland through the ice-choked seas. During this period, Norway had assumed responsibility for supplying the Norse settlers in Greenland, but as the climate worsened it became a very difficult task.


"At that time, the inner regions of the long fjords where the settlements where located were very different from today. Excavations show that there were considerable birch woods with trees up to 4 to 6 meters high in the area around the inner parts of the Tunuliarfik- and Aniaaq-fjords, the central area of the Eastern settlement, and the hills were grown with grass and willow brushes. This was due to the medieval climate optimum. The Norse soon changed the vegetation by cutting down the trees to use as building material and for heating and by extensive sheep and goat grazing during summer and winter. The climate in Greenland was much warmer during the first centuries of settlement but became increasingly colder in the 14th and 15th centuries with the approaching period of colder weather known as the Little Ice Age."


The Medieval Warm Period coincides with the Vikings' settlement of Greenland, Iceland and possibly North America. Farmsteads with dairy cattle, pigs, sheep and goats were prevalent in Iceland and along the southern coast of Greenland. Even England was able to compete economically with France in wine production. On the other hand, agriculture steadily declined at higher latitudes during the Little Ice Age, while mortality rates and famines increased. By 1500, settlements in Greenland had vanished and the inhabitants of Iceland were struggling to survive.



During the 9th & 10th centuries the Vikings reached Iceland and Greenland during the milder condition that prevailed during Medieval Warm Period. Norse settlers arrived in Iceland in the 9th and Greenland in the 10th century with an agricultural practice based on milk, meat and fibre from cattle, sheep, and goats. The settlers were attracted by green fields and a relatively good climate and driven there by population pressures in Scandinavia. They were able to sail to Iceland and Greenland as well as Labrador because of a decrease in sea ice in the North Atlantic.


The Medieval Warm Period was a time of unusually warm climate in Europe from about 850 until 1250 AD. The warm climate overlaps with a time of high solar activity called the Medieval Maximum. The warmer climate caused historic events such as the spread of Viking settlements in Northern Europe. The Vikings were likely better able to explore and colonize many areas in Northern Europe during this time because the warm climate. They traveled by boats to Greenland among other places through seas that, with cooler climates are typically full of dangerous sea ice. During this time, grape vineyards, which require moderate temperatures and a long growing season, were as far north as England. In comparison, today grapes vineyards are only typically as far north as France in Europe.


Between the 9th and 14th century there was a "Medieval Warm Period", when the average temperature in the Northern Hemisphere reached its highest point in the past 4,000 years, which was only about 1°C higher than at present. It has been documented that during this period, American oysters (Crassostrea virginica) and bay scallops (Aequipecten irradiens) formed populations as far north as Sable Island. Neither of these species exists there today. Radiocarbon dating of relict oyster and bay scallop shells compare reasonably well with the dates of the post-glacial warm period. From the 16th to the 19th century there was a "Little Ice Age", when the average temperature of the Northern Hemisphere was a degree or two cooler than now. It is during this time that salmon are hypothesized to have relocated to the New England area. Salmon may have migrated from Europe after the end of the Pleistocene, across the Atlantic. Immediately prior to the Little Ice Age, the Medieval Warm Period diminished sea pack ice around Iceland and Greenland.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 26 @ 1:28 PM ET
glad to see you're enjoying your Sunday
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
glad to see you're enjoying your Sunday
- Crimsoninja

lol
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 26 @ 11:50 PM ET
"Stranded Polar Bears" Global Warming Hoax Exposed




The Associated Press published the photo two years after it was taken. The image was snapped in August, a time when polar icecaps naturally melt and the wider shot would have shown that the bears were near land mass. Oh yeah, and polar bears can swim! All this didn't stop Al Gore from using the photo as emotional propaganda to support his case
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:05 PM ET
real hot today
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:05 PM ET


The Associated Press published the photo two years after it was taken. The image was snapped in August, a time when polar icecaps naturally melt and the wider shot would have shown that the bears were near land mass. Oh yeah, and polar bears can swim! All this didn't stop Al Gore from using the photo as emotional propaganda to support his case

- D0PPELGANGER


this is quite simply not true
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 27 @ 10:43 PM ET
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 27 @ 10:44 PM ET
real hot today
- the_cause2000



PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 27 @ 11:11 PM ET
my cousin Walter jerked off in public once. True story. He was on a plane to New Mexico when all of the sudden the hydraulics went. The plane started spinning around, going out of control, so he decides it's all over and whips it out and starts beating it right there. So all the other passengers take a cue from him and they start whipping it out and beating like mad. So all the passengers are beating off, plummeting to their certain doom, when all of the sudden, snap! The hydraulics kick back in. The plane rights itself and it lands safely and everyone puts their pieces or, whatever, you know, away and deboard. No one mentions the phenomenon to anyone else.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 27 @ 11:37 PM ET
my cousin Walter jerked off in public once. True story. He was on a plane to New Mexico when all of the sudden the hydraulics went. The plane started spinning around, going out of control, so he decides it's all over and whips it out and starts beating it right there. So all the other passengers take a cue from him and they start whipping it out and beating like mad. So all the passengers are beating off, plummeting to their certain doom, when all of the sudden, snap! The hydraulics kick back in. The plane rights itself and it lands safely and everyone puts their pieces or, whatever, you know, away and deboard. No one mentions the phenomenon to anyone else.
- PhillySportsGuy

lol
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 28 @ 6:58 AM ET




http://www.theregister.co..._study_of_climate_change/
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 28 @ 9:02 AM ET
hot AGAIN today! gah
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
hot AGAIN today! gah
- the_cause2000


Not really. maybe for pussies.

Just finished a round of golf in just 4 hours, walking. A little warm, but no problems.


It's hot and sweaty but not a heat wave says Environment Canada

Toronto is currently expecting a heatwave warning this week -- but according to Coulson, Ottawa falls "just below the category" a heatwave, which requires certain temperatures and humidity index.

"July tends to be the warmest month and time to time we can see this sort of a stretch happen here," said Coulson.

The longest consecutive number of days with daytime temperature of over 30C was in 1876, 13 days between Aug. 2 and Aug. 14.

http://www.ottawasun.com/...e-says-environment-canada

aschuter82
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Cypress Creek
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jul 28 @ 3:08 PM ET
Not really. maybe for pussies.

Just finished a round of golf in just 4 hours, walking. A little warm, but no problems.


It's hot and sweaty but not a heat wave says Environment Canada

Toronto is currently expecting a heatwave warning this week -- but according to Coulson, Ottawa falls "just below the category" a heatwave, which requires certain temperatures and humidity index.

"July tends to be the warmest month and time to time we can see this sort of a stretch happen here," said Coulson.

The longest consecutive number of days with daytime temperature of over 30C was in 1876, 13 days between Aug. 2 and Aug. 14.

http://www.ottawasun.com/...e-says-environment-canada

- D0PPELGANGER

INT. CLEVELAND LIBRARY - DAY

We PICK UP Taylor making his way past the circulation desk.
He glances around and finds what he's looking for: Lynn,
talking to one of the reference librarians. She finishes her
conversation and turns, to find herself face to face with
Taylor. She's wearing her tortoise-shell glasses.

LYNN
(hushed)
Jake, you shouldn't have come here.

TAYLOR
I was wonderin' why you'd give an
old friend a bum phone number.

LYNN
Let's talk in my office, okay?

TAYLOR
I don't wanna talk in your office.

Lynn starts to walk. We'll FOLLOW them as they make their
way through the library. Lynn tries to keep the conversation
hushed. Taylor could give a poop.

LYNN
I told you I don't think it's a good
idea for us to see each other.

TAYLOR
Why not?

LYNN
We don't have anything in common.
Sometimes I wonder if we ever did.

TAYLOR
What are you talkin' about? We were
both athletes, world class, hot for
each other. What more can you have
in common?

LYNN
I stopped bein' an athlete three
years ago. Books are my life now.

Jake suppresses a smile.

LYNN
Don't you dare laugh, Jake. In two
years I've put together one of the
best special collections departments
in the country.

TAYLOR
So what is it? You're still sore I
never read Moby Richard?

LYNN
You never read anything I asked you
to.

TAYLOR
Not like what's-his-name at the
restaurant?

LYNN
His name is Tom, and keep your voice
down.

TAYLOR
What do ya see in this guy?

LYNN
He's stable. He's intelligent... and
I've never found him in bed with a
stewardess.

TAYLOR
That's 'cause no stewardess would
have him. Wouldn't you rather be
with somebody who's in demand?

LYNN
Just like always, you don't take
anything seriously. Everything's a
joke to you.

TAYLOR
C'mon, Lynn, for Christ sake, I'm
just tryin' to loosen things up a
little. I'm gettin' frostbite here.

Lynn stops and turns to face him.

LYNN
Tom and I are getting married in the
fall.

Taylor is momentarily floored by the revelation.

TAYLOR
What? That's crazy, Lynn. I got plans
for us.

LYNN
(walking again)
What plans?

TAYLOR
I was gonna play another a year or
two, then we go to Hawaii, and have
a couple kids who grow up to be
Olympic champions.

LYNN
(stopping again)
How can you think stuff like that? I
haven't seen you in two years. You
never even wrote me a letter.

TAYLOR
I'm sorry, Lynn, but I wasn't exactly
proud of my situation. C'mon, you
didn't think about me at all since I
been gone?

LYNN
(walking again)
Not so loud, Jake.

TAYLOR
Remember the three nights we spent
on the beach in Vera Cruz? You have
nights like that with Mr. Briefcase?

LYNN
(stopping again)
What about the night you had in
Detroit with Miss Dairy Queen?

They're in the large reading room now.

TAYLOR
What was I supposed to do? She bet
me fifty bucks she had a better body
than you. I had to defend your honor.

LYNN
(whirling on him and
exploding)
What a bunch of bullpoop!
(exasperated)
I have a much better body than she
does.

With this the whole reading room turns around and stares at
her. Lynn is mortified by her outburst. Taylor tries to smooth
it over.

TAYLOR
(addressing the library
patrons)
She's right. Take it from me, she
really does. I mean Miss Dairy Queen
has quantity, I give her that, but
the, ah, quality just isn't there.

Nice job, Jake. Lynn is still mortified.

TAYLOR
How many think Lynn oughta give me
another shot?

Most of the hands in the room shoot up.

TAYLOR
The ayes have it.

LYNN
(walking off again)
You haven't changed at all, have
you?

TAYLOR
I'm afraid I have or I wouldn't be
here. C'mon, Lynn, I don't wanna do
time for things that happened years
ago.

LYNN
(turning back to him)
I'm sorry, Jake. You'll always be
the little boy who wouldn't grow up.

Lynn starts off for her office door.

TAYLOR
Lynn, wait...

Lynn continues on into her office. As the door closes, we GO
TO Taylor's forlorn face.

the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 28 @ 4:08 PM ET
Not really. maybe for pussies.

Just finished a round of golf in just 4 hours, walking. A little warm, but no problems.


It's hot and sweaty but not a heat wave says Environment Canada

Toronto is currently expecting a heatwave warning this week -- but according to Coulson, Ottawa falls "just below the category" a heatwave, which requires certain temperatures and humidity index.

"July tends to be the warmest month and time to time we can see this sort of a stretch happen here," said Coulson.

The longest consecutive number of days with daytime temperature of over 30C was in 1876, 13 days between Aug. 2 and Aug. 14.

http://www.ottawasun.com/...e-says-environment-canada

- D0PPELGANGER


at your age? that's AMAZING
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 29 @ 6:53 AM ET
at your age? that's AMAZING
- the_cause2000


not a pussy.
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 29 @ 10:42 AM ET
not a pussy.
- D0PPELGANGER

CLEARLY!
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