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twiztedmike
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May 13 @ 12:38 AM ET
you should try getting high and laid
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A_Tree
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May 13 @ 9:25 AM ET
http://phys.org/news/2013-11-university-physicists-urine-splash-back-tactics.html
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kicksave856
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May 13 @ 9:40 AM ET
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- A_Tree

i know
watsonnostaw
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May 15 @ 9:22 PM ET
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- A_Tree

dellio has done great work in his career of being a flea bag
A_Tree
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May 18 @ 9:21 AM ET
dellio has done great work in his career of being a flea bag
- watsonnostaw


I hope his research funds get him out of jail soon.
watsonnostaw
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May 18 @ 10:58 PM ET
I hope his research funds get him out of jail soon.
- A_Tree

HE FOUGHT REALLY HARD TO STAY IN THERE, DELLS LOVES A GOOD COLON ROMP
watsonnostaw
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May 23 @ 10:15 PM ET
D0PPELGANGER
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May 27 @ 9:06 AM ET
CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT CAUSING MORE EXTREME WEATHER


A number of prestigious sources, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the British Royal Society, the U.S. National Academy of Science, and the U.S National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) have recently published reports predicting on the basis of climate models that in future, because of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change (CAGW), we can expect weather to be more extreme and intense and that these events will be more frequent. These reports add to the claims that humans are in crisis and that governments must be given billions, if not trillions, of dollars and extensive regulatory authority to attack the problem by controlling people’s energy consumption.

What these prestigious sources did not count on is engineers making trouble. Engineers, unfortunately, are people who look at the details. They want to know exactly what has happened, when and by how much. They have a crazy addiction to the data (i.e. the actual numbers showing what has happened and is what is happening now). One of these troublesome engineers is a fellow named Mike Kelly, a professor of engineering at Cambridge University in England. Mike Kelly published an article in February 2016 in the Journal of Geography and Natural Disasters entitled, Trends in Extreme Weather Events since 1900 – An Enduring Conundrum for Wise Policy Advice.

Professor Kelly’s article can be read here:

http://www.omicsgroup.org...ice-2167-0587-1000155.pdf


After describing what the prestigious sources said, Professor Kelly examined the trends in the actual, real world data over the period since the middle of the 19th century. In his paper, he uses several graphs and tables that show trends over time.

One set uses the data from the Hadley Centre in England (HADCRUT4) to show the globally averaged mean surface temperature from 1850 to the present. It shows that the periods of the maximum warming or cooling rates are all in the late 19th century or early 20th century, before the significant rise in greenhouse gas emissions. In fact, the periods of large carbon dioxide emissions have not been associated with a single warming extreme since 1951, over 60 years ago. Further, since the 1970’s the climate extremes’ range (i.e. the maximums of high and low temperatures) appears to be narrowing.

Another set plots NOAA monthly measures of precipitation from 1895 through June 2014 in the United States, comparing the 5-year average of carbon dioxide levels with the five-year and full-period averages of precipitation. The data basically show that the long-term average and the average since 1985 are virtually identical, so any suggestions of precipitation extremes from one-time events in the US are not borne out by the data.

Two charts show the steady decline on average of both the frequency and power of hurricanes making landfall in the US over the 20th century. There has been a 30% decline in the frequency of tornados of strength 3 and above in the US after 1975, the year that global cooling turned to global warming.

Another graph shows that extremes of temperatures were by far the greatest in the 1930’s, not recently.

A table shows the number of deaths from severe weather events. These have been in decline since 1900. There are multiple potential causes of this decline – better warnings, more robust defences, fewer and less extreme events, etc. – but the point is interesting.

Professor Kelly also presents data from other areas of the globe, notably the United Kingdom and Australia, and finds the same results – all of the most extreme weather occurred before 1970.

In summarizing, Professor Kelly states that, “The lack of public, political and policymaker appreciation of the disconnect between empirical data and theoretical constructs is profoundly worrying, especially in terms of policy advice being given.” He refers to the Royal Society report as “without empirical foundation” and the U.S. National Academy of Science report as “misleading”.

In response to Professor Kelly’s article the adherents to the theory of CAGW have discounted his judgments because he is “not a climate scientist” and have attacked the Journal of Geography and Natural Disasters as being on the “List of Predatory Publishers”. There has been no direct rebuttal of his data.
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May 27 @ 9:10 AM ET
Donald Trump calls global warming a hoax - until it threatens his golf course


Donald Trump has mixed feelings about climate change.

In January 2014, he publicly wondered how the United States could be spending money to combat what, in his words, was a “global wraming hoax.” In October, when Trump was bitten by the autumnal chill, the Republican presidential candidate snarked on Twitter that he could use “a big fat dose of global warming.” He told The Washington Post editorial board in March that he is “not a great believer in man-made climate change.”


But when it came to protecting his own investments from global warming’s effects, Trump canned the screaming capital letters and jokes. Instead, Trump wants to curtail climate change with a wall.




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Hillary Clinton accuses Trump of 'rooting' for the housing crisis

The Trump International Golf Links Ireland, a golf course by the sea in Ireland’s County Clare, faces the Atlantic’s pounding waves and coastal erosion. As Politico reported Monday, the Trump Organization has submitted a permit to build a sea wall, which cites rising sea levels from climate change as a threat. Not just any wall will do — one plan called for a limestone barricade 20 meters wide, what Friends of the Irish Environment’s Tony Lowes described to CNBC as a “monster sea wall” in March.

As part of the approval process to build the sea wall, Trump International Golf Links filed an environmental-impact statement. It includes specific concern for erosion, beyond one governmental study that did not take into account sea-level rise from climate change, according to Politico.



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Environmentalists have pounced on Donald Trump's apparent self-contradiction (Ian MacNicol/Getty Images)

“If the predictions of an increase in sea level rise as a result of global warming prove correct, however, it is likely that there will be a corresponding increase in coastal erosion rates not just in Doughmore Bay but around much of the coastline of Ireland,” the application notes. “In our view, it could reasonably be expected that the rate of sea level rise might become twice of that presently occurring.”

Environmentalists pounced on the apparent self-contradiction. Former congressman Bob Inglis, a Republican from South Carolina who supports conservative efforts to mitigate global warming, told Politico that the dissonance between Trump’s public stance and his business practice is “diabolical.”

“Donald Trump clearly cares more about the fate of his golf courses than the health of the millions of families already affected by the climate crisis,” said Adam Beitman of the Sierra Club to the Associated Press.


Read more

Donald Trump escalates personal attacks on Bill Clinton's character
Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump might be the most disliked nominees in decades
Donald Trump tells Hispanics: ‘You’re going to be very happy with president Trump’ in first filmed address
David Cameron says he is happy to meet Donald Trump despite 'dangerous' comments about Muslims

Republicans, according to a recent New York Times report, may be concerned about Trump’s lack of a clear stance regarding climate change, at least beyond the denials or jokes in his Twitter feed. “I think there is concern about where he stands because he hasn’t come out strongly one way or another,” one anonymous aide told the Times.

There is a scientific consensus that humans are causing the planet to warm. A 2009 review of more than 4,000 climate-science papers found that scientists faulted humans for global warming in 97 out of every 100 studies.

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kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
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May 27 @ 9:13 AM ET
aschuter82
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Cypress Creek
Joined: 06.18.2010

May 27 @ 9:29 AM ET
CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT CAUSING MORE EXTREME WEATHER


A number of prestigious sources, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the British Royal Society, the U.S. National Academy of Science, and the U.S National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) have recently published reports predicting on the basis of climate models that in future, because of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change (CAGW), we can expect weather to be more extreme and intense and that these events will be more frequent. These reports add to the claims that humans are in crisis and that governments must be given billions, if not trillions, of dollars and extensive regulatory authority to attack the problem by controlling people’s energy consumption.

What these prestigious sources did not count on is engineers making trouble. Engineers, unfortunately, are people who look at the details. They want to know exactly what has happened, when and by how much. They have a crazy addiction to the data (i.e. the actual numbers showing what has happened and is what is happening now). One of these troublesome engineers is a fellow named Mike Kelly, a professor of engineering at Cambridge University in England. Mike Kelly published an article in February 2016 in the Journal of Geography and Natural Disasters entitled, Trends in Extreme Weather Events since 1900 – An Enduring Conundrum for Wise Policy Advice.

Professor Kelly’s article can be read here:

http://www.omicsgroup.org...ice-2167-0587-1000155.pdf


After describing what the prestigious sources said, Professor Kelly examined the trends in the actual, real world data over the period since the middle of the 19th century. In his paper, he uses several graphs and tables that show trends over time.

One set uses the data from the Hadley Centre in England (HADCRUT4) to show the globally averaged mean surface temperature from 1850 to the present. It shows that the periods of the maximum warming or cooling rates are all in the late 19th century or early 20th century, before the significant rise in greenhouse gas emissions. In fact, the periods of large carbon dioxide emissions have not been associated with a single warming extreme since 1951, over 60 years ago. Further, since the 1970’s the climate extremes’ range (i.e. the maximums of high and low temperatures) appears to be narrowing.

Another set plots NOAA monthly measures of precipitation from 1895 through June 2014 in the United States, comparing the 5-year average of carbon dioxide levels with the five-year and full-period averages of precipitation. The data basically show that the long-term average and the average since 1985 are virtually identical, so any suggestions of precipitation extremes from one-time events in the US are not borne out by the data.

Two charts show the steady decline on average of both the frequency and power of hurricanes making landfall in the US over the 20th century. There has been a 30% decline in the frequency of tornados of strength 3 and above in the US after 1975, the year that global cooling turned to global warming.

Another graph shows that extremes of temperatures were by far the greatest in the 1930’s, not recently.

A table shows the number of deaths from severe weather events. These have been in decline since 1900. There are multiple potential causes of this decline – better warnings, more robust defences, fewer and less extreme events, etc. – but the point is interesting.

Professor Kelly also presents data from other areas of the globe, notably the United Kingdom and Australia, and finds the same results – all of the most extreme weather occurred before 1970.

In summarizing, Professor Kelly states that, “The lack of public, political and policymaker appreciation of the disconnect between empirical data and theoretical constructs is profoundly worrying, especially in terms of policy advice being given.” He refers to the Royal Society report as “without empirical foundation” and the U.S. National Academy of Science report as “misleading”.

In response to Professor Kelly’s article the adherents to the theory of CAGW have discounted his judgments because he is “not a climate scientist” and have attacked the Journal of Geography and Natural Disasters as being on the “List of Predatory Publishers”. There has been no direct rebuttal of his data.

- D0PPELGANGER

Way to play the defer to authority card dopps.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

May 27 @ 10:04 PM ET
Reuters) - A searing heatwave is baking central and northern Australia, piling more misery on drought-hit cattle farmers who have been slaughtering livestock as Australia sweltered through the hottest year on record in 2013.

Temperatures have topped 40 degrees Celsius (104 Fahrenheit)in large parts of Australia's key agricultural regions for most of the past week, with the mercury topping 48 degrees Celsius in the central west Queensland town of Birdsville.

The heatwave is moving east across Australia, prompting health warnings on Friday in some of the country's biggest cities and firefighters were already battling bushfires.

But it is in the outback that soaring temperatures have had the most devastating impact, especially on cattle farmers in Queensland, which accounts for about 50 percent on the national herd.

"Water supplies are fast diminishing and whatever feed supplies that were left are cooking off to the point where there won't be any left," said Charles Burke, a beef farmer and chief executive of Agforce, a Queensland cattle industry group.

"This drought is shaping to be an absolute disaster."

Monsoon rains in Australia's north failed last summer and the entire continent endured its hottest year since records began in 1910, the Bureau of Meteorology said on Friday.

Average temperatures were 1.2 degree Celsius above the long-term average of 21.8 degree Celsius, breaking the previous record set in 2005.

"The new record high calendar year temperature averaged across Australia is remarkable because it occurred not in an El Niño year, but a normal year," David Karoly, a climate scientist from the School of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne, said in an emailed statement.

The El Nino weather pattern is a warming of ocean surface temperatures in the eastern and central Pacific and usually brings hot, dry, and often drought conditions to Australia.

FRIED EGGS AND THIRSTY FLIES

In the remote town of Marree, 700 kms (435 miles) north of Adelaide in South Australia, one resident tested the folklore that you can fry an egg on the road during an outback heatwave.

"You hear stories of people frying an egg on a shovel, so we set up a shovel this morning out the front and sure enough we've got an egg there that's slowly frying away," publican Phil Turner told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

"So yep, we fried an egg on a shovel."

Faced with such tough conditions, farmers are being forced to slaughter more cattle in the current 2013/14 season.

Australia's cattle herd will fall to 25 million head during the 2013/14 season, the lowest since the 2009/10 season, due to increased slaughtering, the Australian Bureau of Agriculture and Resource Economics and Sciences said.

"Even the flies are sticking close to the house ... thanks to the air-conditioner coming out the windows," said Jo Fogarty from Lucy Creek cattle station in the Northern Territory.

"(We are) leaving sprinklers on for the dogs and birds at the moment. We are quite lucky we have got a good supply of water at the homestead," Fogarty told local media.

Australia is the world's third largest beef exporter, with sales during the 2013/14 season tipped to reach A$5.4 billion ($4.82 billion).

Should Australian farmers continue to send cattle to slaughter due to the heatwave, future exports could fall as farmers eventually rebuild stocks when conditions improve.

The soaring temperatures have also renewed focus on climate change policy in Australia under the new government.

While Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has said he accepts the reality of climate change, he abolished the country's Climate Change Commission in September, and rejected any link that global warming was responsible for a series of bushfires across New South Wales state in October.

One of Abbott's major policies is to overturn the previous government's carbon tax, which was aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions in an effort to tackle climate change.

"On the science perspective, which is the basis for taking action, you're getting very very mixed messages from this government," Will Steffen, an adjunct professor at The Australian National University, said in an interview.

"I think the first challenge needs to be absolutely clear and consistent messaging from this new government that they understand the science, they accept the science, they accept the risk and they accept the lead to take vigorous and decisive action in getting emissions down."

Reuters) - A searing heatwave is baking central and northern Australia, piling more misery on drought-hit cattle farmers who have been slaughtering livestock as Australia sweltered through the hottest year on record in 2013.

Temperatures have topped 40 degrees Celsius (104 Fahrenheit)in large parts of Australia's key agricultural regions for most of the past week, with the mercury topping 48 degrees Celsius in the central west Queensland town of Birdsville.

The heatwave is moving east across Australia, prompting health warnings on Friday in some of the country's biggest cities and firefighters were already battling bushfires.

But it is in the outback that soaring temperatures have had the most devastating impact, especially on cattle farmers in Queensland, which accounts for about 50 percent on the national herd.

"Water supplies are fast diminishing and whatever feed supplies that were left are cooking off to the point where there won't be any left," said Charles Burke, a beef farmer and chief executive of Agforce, a Queensland cattle industry group.

"This drought is shaping to be an absolute disaster."

Monsoon rains in Australia's north failed last summer and the entire continent endured its hottest year since records began in 1910, the Bureau of Meteorology said on Friday.

Average temperatures were 1.2 degree Celsius above the long-term average of 21.8 degree Celsius, breaking the previous record set in 2005.

"The new record high calendar year temperature averaged across Australia is remarkable because it occurred not in an El Niño year, but a normal year," David Karoly, a climate scientist from the School of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne, said in an emailed statement.

The El Nino weather pattern is a warming of ocean surface temperatures in the eastern and central Pacific and usually brings hot, dry, and often drought conditions to Australia.

FRIED EGGS AND THIRSTY FLIES

In the remote town of Marree, 700 kms (435 miles) north of Adelaide in South Australia, one resident tested the folklore that you can fry an egg on the road during an outback heatwave.

"You hear stories of people frying an egg on a shovel, so we set up a shovel this morning out the front and sure enough we've got an egg there that's slowly frying away," publican Phil Turner told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

"So yep, we fried an egg on a shovel."

Faced with such tough conditions, farmers are being forced to slaughter more cattle in the current 2013/14 season.

Australia's cattle herd will fall to 25 million head during the 2013/14 season, the lowest since the 2009/10 season, due to increased slaughtering, the Australian Bureau of Agriculture and Resource Economics and Sciences said.

"Even the flies are sticking close to the house ... thanks to the air-conditioner coming out the windows," said Jo Fogarty from Lucy Creek cattle station in the Northern Territory.

"(We are) leaving sprinklers on for the dogs and birds at the moment. We are quite lucky we have got a good supply of water at the homestead," Fogarty told local media.

Australia is the world's third largest beef exporter, with sales during the 2013/14 season tipped to reach A$5.4 billion ($4.82 billion).

Should Australian farmers continue to send cattle to slaughter due to the heatwave, future exports could fall as farmers eventually rebuild stocks when conditions improve.

The soaring temperatures have also renewed focus on climate change policy in Australia under the new government.

While Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has said he accepts the reality of climate change, he abolished the country's Climate Change Commission in September, and rejected any link that global warming was responsible for a series of bushfires across New South Wales state in October.

One of Abbott's major policies is to overturn the previous government's carbon tax, which was aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions in an effort to tackle climate change.

"On the science perspective, which is the basis for taking action, you're getting very very mixed messages from this government," Will Steffen, an adjunct professor at The Australian National University, said in an interview.

"I think the first challenge needs to be absolutely clear and consistent messaging from this new government that they understand the science, they accept the science, they accept the risk and they accept the lead to take vigorous and decisive action in getting emissions down."

Reuters) - A searing heatwave is baking central and northern Australia, piling more misery on drought-hit cattle farmers who have been slaughtering livestock as Australia sweltered through the hottest year on record in 2013.

Temperatures have topped 40 degrees Celsius (104 Fahrenheit)in large parts of Australia's key agricultural regions for most of the past week, with the mercury topping 48 degrees Celsius in the central west Queensland town of Birdsville.

The heatwave is moving east across Australia, prompting health warnings on Friday in some of the country's biggest cities and firefighters were already battling bushfires.

But it is in the outback that soaring temperatures have had the most devastating impact, especially on cattle farmers in Queensland, which accounts for about 50 percent on the national herd.

"Water supplies are fast diminishing and whatever feed supplies that were left are cooking off to the point where there won't be any left," said Charles Burke, a beef farmer and chief executive of Agforce, a Queensland cattle industry group.

"This drought is shaping to be an absolute disaster."

Monsoon rains in Australia's north failed last summer and the entire continent endured its hottest year since records began in 1910, the Bureau of Meteorology said on Friday.

Average temperatures were 1.2 degree Celsius above the long-term average of 21.8 degree Celsius, breaking the previous record set in 2005.

"The new record high calendar year temperature averaged across Australia is remarkable because it occurred not in an El Niño year, but a normal year," David Karoly, a climate scientist from the School of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne, said in an emailed statement.

The El Nino weather pattern is a warming of ocean surface temperatures in the eastern and central Pacific and usually brings hot, dry, and often drought conditions to Australia.

FRIED EGGS AND THIRSTY FLIES

In the remote town of Marree, 700 kms (435 miles) north of Adelaide in South Australia, one resident tested the folklore that you can fry an egg on the road during an outback heatwave.

"You hear stories of people frying an egg on a shovel, so we set up a shovel this morning out the front and sure enough we've got an egg there that's slowly frying away," publican Phil Turner told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

"So yep, we fried an egg on a shovel."

Faced with such tough conditions, farmers are being forced to slaughter more cattle in the current 2013/14 season.

Australia's cattle herd will fall to 25 million head during the 2013/14 season, the lowest since the 2009/10 season, due to increased slaughtering, the Australian Bureau of Agriculture and Resource Economics and Sciences said.

"Even the flies are sticking close to the house ... thanks to the air-conditioner coming out the windows," said Jo Fogarty from Lucy Creek cattle station in the Northern Territory.

"(We are) leaving sprinklers on for the dogs and birds at the moment. We are quite lucky we have got a good supply of water at the homestead," Fogarty told local media.

Australia is the world's third largest beef exporter, with sales during the 2013/14 season tipped to reach A$5.4 billion ($4.82 billion).

Should Australian farmers continue to send cattle to slaughter due to the heatwave, future exports could fall as farmers eventually rebuild stocks when conditions improve.

The soaring temperatures have also renewed focus on climate change policy in Australia under the new government.

While Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has said he accepts the reality of climate change, he abolished the country's Climate Change Commission in September, and rejected any link that global warming was responsible for a series of bushfires across New South Wales state in October.

One of Abbott's major policies is to overturn the previous government's carbon tax, which was aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions in an effort to tackle climate change.

"On the science perspective, which is the basis for taking action, you're getting very very mixed messages from this government," Will Steffen, an adjunct professor at The Australian National University, said in an interview.

"I think the first challenge needs to be absolutely clear and consistent messaging from this new government that they understand the science, they accept the science, they accept the risk and they accept the lead to take vigorous and decisive action in getting emissions down."

Reuters) - A searing heatwave is baking central and northern Australia, piling more misery on drought-hit cattle farmers who have been slaughtering livestock as Australia sweltered through the hottest year on record in 2013.

Temperatures have topped 40 degrees Celsius (104 Fahrenheit)in large parts of Australia's key agricultural regions for most of the past week, with the mercury topping 48 degrees Celsius in the central west Queensland town of Birdsville.

The heatwave is moving east across Australia, prompting health warnings on Friday in some of the country's biggest cities and firefighters were already battling bushfires.

But it is in the outback that soaring temperatures have had the most devastating impact, especially on cattle farmers in Queensland, which accounts for about 50 percent on the national herd.

"Water supplies are fast diminishing and whatever feed supplies that were left are cooking off to the point where there won't be any left," said Charles Burke, a beef farmer and chief executive of Agforce, a Queensland cattle industry group.

"This drought is shaping to be an absolute disaster."

Monsoon rains in Australia's north failed last summer and the entire continent endured its hottest year since records began in 1910, the Bureau of Meteorology said on Friday.

Average temperatures were 1.2 degree Celsius above the long-term average of 21.8 degree Celsius, breaking the previous record set in 2005.

"The new record high calendar year temperature averaged across Australia is remarkable because it occurred not in an El Niño year, but a normal year," David Karoly, a climate scientist from the School of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne, said in an emailed statement.

The El Nino weather pattern is a warming of ocean surface temperatures in the eastern and central Pacific and usually brings hot, dry, and often drought conditions to Australia.

FRIED EGGS AND THIRSTY FLIES

In the remote town of Marree, 700 kms (435 miles) north of Adelaide in South Australia, one resident tested the folklore that you can fry an egg on the road during an outback heatwave.

"You hear stories of people frying an egg on a shovel, so we set up a shovel this morning out the front and sure enough we've got an egg there that's slowly frying away," publican Phil Turner told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

"So yep, we fried an egg on a shovel."

Faced with such tough conditions, farmers are being forced to slaughter more cattle in the current 2013/14 season.

Australia's cattle herd will fall to 25 million head during the 2013/14 season, the lowest since the 2009/10 season, due to increased slaughtering, the Australian Bureau of Agriculture and Resource Economics and Sciences said.

"Even the flies are sticking close to the house ... thanks to the air-conditioner coming out the windows," said Jo Fogarty from Lucy Creek cattle station in the Northern Territory.

"(We are) leaving sprinklers on for the dogs and birds at the moment. We are quite lucky we have got a good supply of water at the homestead," Fogarty told local media.

Australia is the world's third largest beef exporter, with sales during the 2013/14 season tipped to reach A$5.4 billion ($4.82 billion).

Should Australian farmers continue to send cattle to slaughter due to the heatwave, future exports could fall as farmers eventually rebuild stocks when conditions improve.

The soaring temperatures have also renewed focus on climate change policy in Australia under the new government.

While Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has said he accepts the reality of climate change, he abolished the country's Climate Change Commission in September, and rejected any link that global warming was responsible for a series of bushfires across New South Wales state in October.

One of Abbott's major policies is to overturn the previous government's carbon tax, which was aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions in an effort to tackle climate change.

"On the science perspective, which is the basis for taking action, you're getting very very mixed messages from this government," Will Steffen, an adjunct professor at The Australian National University, said in an interview.

"I think the first challenge needs to be absolutely clear and consistent messaging from this new government that they understand the science, they accept the science, they accept the risk and they accept the lead to take vigorous and decisive action in getting emissions down."

Reuters) - A searing heatwave is baking central and northern Australia, piling more misery on drought-hit cattle farmers who have been slaughtering livestock as Australia sweltered through the hottest year on record in 2013.

Temperatures have topped 40 degrees Celsius (104 Fahrenheit)in large parts of Australia's key agricultural regions for most of the past week, with the mercury topping 48 degrees Celsius in the central west Queensland town of Birdsville.

The heatwave is moving east across Australia, prompting health warnings on Friday in some of the country's biggest cities and firefighters were already battling bushfires.

But it is in the outback that soaring temperatures have had the most devastating impact, especially on cattle farmers in Queensland, which accounts for about 50 percent on the national herd.

"Water supplies are fast diminishing and whatever feed supplies that were left are cooking off to the point where there won't be any left," said Charles Burke, a beef farmer and chief executive of Agforce, a Queensland cattle industry group.

"This drought is shaping to be an absolute disaster."

Monsoon rains in Australia's north failed last summer and the entire continent endured its hottest year since records began in 1910, the Bureau of Meteorology said on Friday.

Average temperatures were 1.2 degree Celsius above the long-term average of 21.8 degree Celsius, breaking the previous record set in 2005.

"The new record high calendar year temperature averaged across Australia is remarkable because it occurred not in an El Niño year, but a normal year," David Karoly, a climate scientist from the School of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne, said in an emailed statement.

The El Nino weather pattern is a warming of ocean surface temperatures in the eastern and central Pacific and usually brings hot, dry, and often drought conditions to Australia.

FRIED EGGS AND THIRSTY FLIES

In the remote town of Marree, 700 kms (435 miles) north of Adelaide in South Australia, one resident tested the folklore that you can fry an egg on the road during an outback heatwave.

"You hear stories of people frying an egg on a shovel, so we set up a shovel this morning out the front and sure enough we've got an egg there that's slowly frying away," publican Phil Turner told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

"So yep, we fried an egg on a shovel."

Faced with such tough conditions, farmers are being forced to slaughter more cattle in the current 2013/14 season.

Australia's cattle herd will fall to 25 million head during the 2013/14 season, the lowest since the 2009/10 season, due to increased slaughtering, the Australian Bureau of Agriculture and Resource Economics and Sciences said.

"Even the flies are sticking close to the house ... thanks to the air-conditioner coming out the windows," said Jo Fogarty from Lucy Creek cattle station in the Northern Territory.

"(We are) leaving sprinklers on for the dogs and birds at the moment. We are quite lucky we have got a good supply of water at the homestead," Fogarty told local media.

Australia is the world's third largest beef exporter, with sales during the 2013/14 season tipped to reach A$5.4 billion ($4.82 billion).

Should Australian farmers continue to send cattle to slaughter due to the heatwave, future exports could fall as farmers eventually rebuild stocks when conditions improve.

The soaring temperatures have also renewed focus on climate change policy in Australia under the new government.

While Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has said he accepts the reality of climate change, he abolished the country's Climate Change Commission in September, and rejected any link that global warming was responsible for a series of bushfires across New South Wales state in October.

One of Abbott's major policies is to overturn the previous government's carbon tax, which was aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions in an effort to tackle climate change.

"On the science perspective, which is the basis for taking action, you're getting very very mixed messages from this government," Will Steffen, an adjunct professor at The Australian National University, said in an interview.

"I think the first challenge needs to be absolutely clear and consistent messaging from this new government that they understand the science, they accept the science, they accept the risk and they accept the lead to take vigorous and decisive action in getting emissions down."

Reuters) - A searing heatwave is baking central and northern Australia, piling more misery on drought-hit cattle farmers who have been slaughtering livestock as Australia sweltered through the hottest year on record in 2013.

Temperatures have topped 40 degrees Celsius (104 Fahrenheit)in large parts of Australia's key agricultural regions for most of the past week, with the mercury topping 48 degrees Celsius in the central west Queensland town of Birdsville.

The heatwave is moving east across Australia, prompting health warnings on Friday in some of the country's biggest cities and firefighters were already battling bushfires.

But it is in the outback that soaring temperatures have had the most devastating impact, especially on cattle farmers in Queensland, which accounts for about 50 percent on the national herd.

"Water supplies are fast diminishing and whatever feed supplies that were left are cooking off to the point where there won't be any left," said Charles Burke, a beef farmer and chief executive of Agforce, a Queensland cattle industry group.

"This drought is shaping to be an absolute disaster."

Monsoon rains in Australia's north failed last summer and the entire continent endured its hottest year since records began in 1910, the Bureau of Meteorology said on Friday.

Average temperatures were 1.2 degree Celsius above the long-term average of 21.8 degree Celsius, breaking the previous record set in 2005.

"The new record high calendar year temperature averaged across Australia is remarkable because it occurred not in an El Niño year, but a normal year," David Karoly, a climate scientist from the School of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne, said in an emailed statement.

The El Nino weather pattern is a warming of ocean surface temperatures in the eastern and central Pacific and usually brings hot, dry, and often drought conditions to Australia.

FRIED EGGS AND THIRSTY FLIES

In the remote town of Marree, 700 kms (435 miles) north of Adelaide in South Australia, one resident tested the folklore that you can fry an egg on the road during an outback heatwave.

"You hear stories of people frying an egg on a shovel, so we set up a shovel this morning out the front and sure enough we've got an egg there that's slowly frying away," publican Phil Turner told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

"So yep, we fried an egg on a shovel."

Faced with such tough conditions, farmers are being forced to slaughter more cattle in the current 2013/14 season.

Australia's cattle herd will fall to 25 million head during the 2013/14 season, the lowest since the 2009/10 season, due to increased slaughtering, the Australian Bureau of Agriculture and Resource Economics and Sciences said.

"Even the flies are sticking close to the house ... thanks to the air-conditioner coming out the windows," said Jo Fogarty from Lucy Creek cattle station in the Northern Territory.

"(We are) leaving sprinklers on for the dogs and birds at the moment. We are quite lucky we have got a good supply of water at the homestead," Fogarty told local media.

Australia is the world's third largest beef exporter, with sales during the 2013/14 season tipped to reach A$5.4 billion ($4.82 billion).

Should Australian farmers continue to send cattle to slaughter due to the heatwave, future exports could fall as farmers eventually rebuild stocks when conditions improve.

The soaring temperatures have also renewed focus on climate change policy in Australia under the new government.

While Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has said he accepts the reality of climate change, he abolished the country's Climate Change Commission in September, and rejected any link that global warming was responsible for a series of bushfires across New South Wales state in October.

One of Abbott's major policies is to overturn the previous government's carbon tax, which was aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions in an effort to tackle climate change.

"On the science perspective, which is the basis for taking action, you're getting very very mixed messages from this government," Will Steffen, an adjunct professor at The Australian National University, said in an interview.

"I think the first challenge needs to be absolutely clear and consistent messaging from this new government that they understand the science, they accept the science, they accept the risk and they accept the lead to take vigorous and decisive action in getting emissions down."

- the_cause2000



kicksave856
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May 27 @ 11:56 PM ET
you're gonna make him leak again.
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May 28 @ 6:32 AM ET
you're gonna make him leak again.
- kicksave856


could care less
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May 28 @ 2:58 PM ET
could care less
- D0PPELGANGER

clearly. you've shown that in the past.
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May 28 @ 4:11 PM ET

- watsonnostaw

reported
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Twenty-year hiatus in rising temperatures has climate scientists puzzled

DEBATE about the reality of a two-decade pause in global warming and what it means has made its way from the sceptical fringe to the mainstream.

In a lengthy article this week, The Economist magazine said if climate scientists were credit-rating agencies, then climate sensitivity - the way climate reacts to changes in carbon-dioxide levels - would be on negative watch but not yet downgraded.

Another paper published by leading climate scientist James Hansen, the head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, says the lower than expected temperature rise between 2000 and the present could be explained by increased emissions from burning coal.

For Hansen the pause is a fact, but it's good news that probably won't last.

International Panel on Climate Change chairman Rajendra Pachauri recently told The Weekend Australian the hiatus would have to last 30 to 40 years "at least" to break the long-term warming trend.

But the fact that global surface temperatures have not followed the expected global warming pattern is now widely accepted.


read more
http://www.telegraph.co.u...uld-be-worried-about.html
dt99999
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May 30 @ 4:10 PM ET
Twenty-year hiatus in rising temperatures has climate scientists puzzled

DEBATE about the reality of a two-decade pause in global warming and what it means has made its way from the sceptical fringe to the mainstream.

In a lengthy article this week, The Economist magazine said if climate scientists were credit-rating agencies, then climate sensitivity - the way climate reacts to changes in carbon-dioxide levels - would be on negative watch but not yet downgraded.

Another paper published by leading climate scientist James Hansen, the head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, says the lower than expected temperature rise between 2000 and the present could be explained by increased emissions from burning coal.

For Hansen the pause is a fact, but it's good news that probably won't last.

International Panel on Climate Change chairman Rajendra Pachauri recently told The Weekend Australian the hiatus would have to last 30 to 40 years "at least" to break the long-term warming trend.

But the fact that global surface temperatures have not followed the expected global warming pattern is now widely accepted.


read more
http://www.telegraph.co.u...uld-be-worried-about.html

- D0PPELGANGER





I just bought an extra jacket
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May 30 @ 4:11 PM ET
Twenty-year hiatus in rising temperatures has climate scientists puzzled

DEBATE about the reality of a two-decade pause in global warming and what it means has made its way from the sceptical fringe to the mainstream.

In a lengthy article this week, The Economist magazine said if climate scientists were credit-rating agencies, then climate sensitivity - the way climate reacts to changes in carbon-dioxide levels - would be on negative watch but not yet downgraded.

Another paper published by leading climate scientist James Hansen, the head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, says the lower than expected temperature rise between 2000 and the present could be explained by increased emissions from burning coal.

For Hansen the pause is a fact, but it's good news that probably won't last.

International Panel on Climate Change chairman Rajendra Pachauri recently told The Weekend Australian the hiatus would have to last 30 to 40 years "at least" to break the long-term warming trend.


But the fact that global surface temperatures have not followed the expected global warming pattern is now widely accepted.


read more
http://www.telegraph.co.u...uld-be-worried-about.html

- D0PPELGANGER

Bolded & underlined the parts that you should come back and read later once your reading comprehension improves
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May 31 @ 12:41 AM ET
Bolded & underlined the parts that you should come back and read later once your reading comprehension improves
- twiztedmike

never let the facts get in the way of a bad post.
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May 31 @ 11:09 AM ET
Bolded & underlined the parts that you should come back and read later once your reading comprehension improves
- twiztedmike



Perhaps you should learn the difference between the hoax of Man Made Climate change, and Naturally occurring cooling and warming cycles, that human activity has no impact on.

"The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself."
- Club of Rome,
premier environmental think-tank,
consultants to the United Nations



1968 was the year of the Great Divide. It marked the zenith as well as the end
of the long post-war period of rapid economic growth in the industrialized
countries. But it was also a year of social unrest with the eruption of student
uprisings in many countries and other manifestations of alienation and
counter cultural protest. In addition, it was at that time that general and vocal
public awareness of the problems of the environment began to emerge.
A number of individuals close to decision-making points became
concerned about the apparent incapability of governments and the
international organizations of foreseeing, or even attempting to foresee, the
consequences of substantia material growth without sufficient thought as to
the quality aspects of the life that unprecedented general affluence should
make possible. It was felt that a group of independent thinkers concerned
with the long-term and deeper issues would be useful in complementing the
work of the bigger organizations.
The Clubof Rome took shape that year from these considerations, and was
founded by Aurelio Peccei and Alexander King at the Academia dei Lincei In
Rome. It chose as its initial theme, 'The Predicament of Mankind.' Aurello
Peccei was ts first president, a post he retained till his death in 1984. At
present, the group comprises one hundred independent individuals from
fifty-three countries. The Club has absolutely no political ambition. Its
members represent a wide diversity of cultures, ideologies, professions and
disciplines, and are united in a common concern for the future of humanity.
From the outset, the Club's thinking has been governed by three related
conceptual guidelines:


—adopting a global approach to the vast and complex problems of a world.
In which Interdependence between nations within a single planetary
system is constantly growing;

—focusing on issues, policies and options in a longer term perspective than
is possible for governments, which respond to the immediate concerns af
an insufficiently informed constituency;

—seeking a deeper understanding of the interactions within the tangle of
contemporary problems - political economic, social, cultural.
psychological, technological and environmental - for which the Club of
Rome adopted the term 'the world problematical".

Read more at http://www.bibliotecapley...firstglobalrevolution.htm or continue to believe the hoax.
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May 31 @ 11:10 AM ET
arguing with twitzted mike pretty much says everything you need to know.

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May 31 @ 11:12 AM ET
"We need to get some broad based support,
to capture the public's imagination...
So we have to offer up scary scenarios,
make simplified, dramatic statements
and make little mention of any doubts...
Each of us has to decide what the right balance
is between being effective and being honest
."
- Prof. Stephen Schneider,
Stanford Professor of Climatology,
lead author of many IPCC reports
D0PPELGANGER
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May 31 @ 11:12 AM ET
"We've got to ride this global warming issue.
Even if the theory of global warming is wrong,
we will be doing the right thing in terms of
economic and environmental policy.
"
- Timothy Wirth,
President of the UN Foundation
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
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May 31 @ 11:13 AM ET
"No matter if the science of global warming is all phony...
climate change provides the greatest opportunity to
bring about justice and equality in the world.
"
- Christine Stewart,
former Canadian Minister of the Environment
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