I'm seriously happy we're not Buffalo or TML fans. If we were, we'd be reasonably certain that Mike Knuble could net us Shea Weber and a few picks. - jmatchett383
is that really any worse than screaming about holmgren trading couturier for clowe?
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Apr 1 @ 12:35 PM ET
id blame lavy more for bobs mishandling - Philly1980
Never understood this line of thinking. You would think even if he was mishandled by the coach for a playoff round, the GM would be aware enough to not say "Well, Lavi doesn't know how to use him the past couple of games, let's trade him away."
Never understood this line of thinking. You would think even if he was mishandled by the coach for a playoff round, the GM would be aware enough to not say "Well, Lavi doesn't know how to use him the past couple of games, let's trade him away."
Give me a break. - feelingkettle
Not to create glue or anything, I always felt it was an organizational call.
They had just invested a ton of money and years in Bryzgalov and probably asked the question of which goaltender thought would help them win more games right now. All of that, one way or another, pointed to Bryz.
Whether it was the right call or not really still remains to be seen, IMO.
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Apr 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
Never understood this line of thinking. You would think even if he was mishandled by the coach for a playoff round, the GM would be aware enough to not say "Well, Lavi doesn't know how to use him the past couple of games, let's trade him away."
Give me a break. - feelingkettle
The same people who are up in arms about Bob now are probably the same people who were crapping themselves when JvR was on his hot streak to start the year. JvR's since come crashing back down to earth, as expected. Bob (and the BJ's) will be re-entering the atmosphere in t-minus 10...9...8...
Never understood this line of thinking. You would think even if he was mishandled by the coach for a playoff round, the GM would be aware enough to not say "Well, Lavi doesn't know how to use him the past couple of games, let's trade him away."
Give me a break. - feelingkettle
That's not how it happened. The coach lost his mind and threw in goalies that weren't even on our roster rather than sticking with Bobrovsky hence the Snider declaration and the Bryzgalof signing.
That left them with 8 mil in goal. It made sense to the GM to move him when he wasn't going to start for the next 9 years.
It all started with the coach. He played with the goalies like a two-fisted yoyo champion.
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Apr 1 @ 12:41 PM ET
I look at the Bob trade happening because they signed Bryz to be #1, Bob wanted a chance to be #1, and they got back a fair return for him.
The fact that Lavi jerked him around, while being awful, did not cause him to be traded.
Bob showed some great promise with his work attitude and athletic ability.
He was torched a lot on high shots while here.
I am happy for him.
If you want to talk about their lack of patience with him, and whether they could have developed him while getting a less pricey vet goalie rather then signing Bryz for +++ years I could get on board with that.
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Apr 1 @ 12:42 PM ET
That's not how it happened. The coach lost his mind and threw in goalies that weren't even on our roster rather than sticking with Bobrovsky hence the Snider declaration and the Bryzgalof signing.
That left them with 8 mil in goal. It made sense to the GM to move him when he wasn't going to start for the next 9 years.
It all started with the coach. He played with the goalies like a two-fisted yoyo champion. - mayorofangrytown
The same people who are up in arms about Bob now are probably the same people who were crapping themselves when JvR was on his hot streak to start the year. JvR's since come crashing back down to earth, as expected. Bob (and the BJ's) will be re-entering the atmosphere in t-minus 10...9...8... - Tomahawk
I'm not freaking out about it but man, I hated the goalie management that playoffs and the subsequent cashiers check for Brygalof. The Bobrovsky trade was just the cherry on top of a knee jerk reaction.
I'm happy for Bobrovsky but disappointed in the team.
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Apr 1 @ 12:47 PM ET
That's not how it happened. The coach lost his mind and threw in goalies that weren't even on our roster rather than sticking with Bobrovsky hence the Snider declaration and the Bryzgalof signing.
That left them with 8 mil in goal. It made sense to the GM to move him when he wasn't going to start for the next 9 years.
It all started with the coach. He played with the goalies like a two-fisted yoyo champion. - mayorofangrytown
I still don't get the blame Lavi for Bob thing. It's obvious the goalies were mismanaged in the playoffs that year. All three were also horrendous. Is it any surprise that a young goalie playing his first year of NA hockey gets overwhelmed - admittedly - during the playoffs? Would the result have turned out any different if Lavi left Bob in there, only to get shelled again?
Bob is just a symptom of a larger issue this org. has with goalies. They always sucked at developing them, and then when they possibly had a nice player, were too impatient or didn't want to take a risk in him turning out bad, so they signed Bryz.
Lavi sucked in managing the goalies that playoffs, but they had an overwhelmed Bob, a Leighton, and a Boosh. The Bob situation was all on the guys upstairs.