@RandyJMiller: Apparently Stars turned down 2 No. 2s from a team for Jagr & won't deal unless blown away. Very unlikely he return ...
- isaiah520

I don't think this team needs the Jagr security blankie, but 2 No. 2s for him?

Nieuwendyk is delusional if he thinks he's getting better return than that.

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- hereticpride

were brewin for Drouin

Meh, so now you're saying the organization set up Bobrovsky to fail? And you can't put a lot of blame on the coach for one mismanaged playoff round?

Listen, you should try reading what you're writing.
- mayorofangrytown

I didn't say they set him up to fail. I'm just saying that they didn't put him in a good spot. I blame the coach for mismanaging the goalies. I've always said that. But I don't blame him for what happened to Bob after, because I would hope a solid organization would not base the future of the club and the development of a player based on one playoff round. It was his first year in NA, he was a rookie, and he was either going to be Bernie Parent reincarnated, or they were going to get a "sure bet" in goal, because they hadn't had one in years.

sounds like the Panthers are going to take Jones

The same people who are up in arms about Bob now are probably the same people who were crapping themselves when JvR was on his hot streak to start the year. JvR's since come crashing back down to earth, as expected. Bob (and the BJ's) will be re-entering the atmosphere in t-minus 10...9...8...
- Tomahawk

I liked bob.....

I hated jvr....knew that (frank)er couldnt keep it up...

a couple of weeks ago, i broke my stick in half on the post with a two hander. then i threw the shaft into the stands. only 2 people were sitting there, so i had some room.
- hammarby31

Packed house compared to my games.

When your 80 year old owner makes a decision on one mismanaged playoff round you, as a GM, do what you're told.
- mayorofangrytown

See, in that case, I would blame the owner and the GM more so than the coach.

I don't think this team needs the Jagr security blankie, but 2 No. 2s for him?

Nieuwendyk is delusional if he thinks he's getting better return than that.
- johndewar

He's also foolish to think Jagr is going to re-sign there. I'd be really surprised if Jagr pins the languishing years of his NHL career on a 2013 deadline seller.

It doesn't make sense.

See, in that case, I would blame the owner and the GM more so than the coach.
- feelingkettle

Snider is still relishing the cups in the 70s with the new statue

He's also foolish to think Jagr is going to re-sign there. I'd be really surprised if Jagr pins the languishing years of his NHL career on a 2013 deadline seller.

It doesn't make sense.
- mayorofangrytown

Yup. Picks for a rental seems pretty good to me.

See, in that case, I would blame the owner and the GM more so than the coach.
- feelingkettle

You must have some pretty fancy blinders on that horse head of yours to keep traveling down that dusty road.

I just don't see how you can say on one hand he mishandled the situation and on the other hand say he's not at all responsible for the repercussions of the mess you yourself admit he created.

On the other hand my wife would love to have you on speed dial for one of our arguments.

Snider is still relishing the cups in the 70s with the new statue
- vejim

i don't mind the statues...should have been done years ago, but i get your point. and btw, those things are creepy looking.

He's also foolish to think Jagr is going to resign there. I'd be really surprised if Jagr pins the languishing years of his NHL career on a 2013 deadline seller.

It doesn't make sense.
- mayorofangrytown

Do we have any 2nd rounders? I thought we traded them all away forever when we got Gratton?

Yup. Picks for a rental seems pretty good to me.
- wolfhounds

I'd have snagged those two second rounders and ran away snickering.

Do we have any 2nd rounders? I thought we traded them all away forever when we got Gratton?
- Deasr1

No that was Renberg.

I don't think this team needs the Jagr security blankie, but 2 No. 2s for him?

Nieuwendyk is delusional if he thinks he's getting better return than that.
- johndewar

The way Homer hates 2nd rounders I suspect it was us that offered that.

Packed house compared to my games.

- Scoob

Packed house compared to my games.

- Scoob

1 new girlfriend and someone's mom... The usual suspects.

The way Homer hates 2nd rounders I suspect it was us that offered that.
- Hextall271

1 new girlfriend and someone's mom... The usual suspects.
- FlyersGrace

and usually one of them has a book.

I hated jvr....knew that (frank)er couldnt keep it up...
- Philly1980

JvR's back to his average of just over .5pt/game despite getting 20% more TOI w/ the Leafs and a prime role on the PP. Outside of a couple of hot streaks, there's still no discernible development to his game.

You must have some pretty fancy blinders on that horse head of yours to keep traveling down that dusty road.

I just don't see how you can say on one hand he mishandled the situation and on the other hand say he's not at all responsible for the repercussions of the mess you yourself admit he created.

On the other hand my wife would love to have you on speed dial for one of our arguments.
- mayorofangrytown

You like those personal attacks, eh?

I guess what it comes down to is that I would hope an organization is competent enough to not base the development and course of the team based on how a coach uses 3 goalies who were all playing like poop.

Lavi did mismanage the goalies, but that starts and ends at that playoff round. Why I cannot blame him is that this team has not shown in 30+ years that it knows what it's doing with goalies. To me, that's a little ridiculous to pin that on the coach. Homer put Bob in that situation. Bob floundered, so did Laviolette. Just like one playoff round shouldn't have decided Bob's fate, one playoff round shouldn't have put all the blame on Lavi.

Unless Bob played lights out, they were going to bring in a "sure thing" goalie. But that's only because they couldn't afford to take another risk in goal, after they had been doing that for years. So to me, to pin it on Lavi after he mismanaged one playoff round, doesn't seem fair to me.

With all the guys injured. We shouold have plenty of cap to really f' this up

With all the guys injured. We shouold have plenty of cap to really f' this up
- Deasr1

Yep, G to PHX for Yandle and Smith... And some sand to pound.

Snider is still relishing the cups in the 70s with the new statue
- vejim

i understand the love for that time period, but enough already.